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1. 05:42 AM - Re: Off field landings (Mystic)
2. 05:58 AM - Re: Re: Possible MkIII accident in Missouri (Pat Ladd)
3. 06:13 AM - Re: Re: Possible MkIII accident in Missouri (Herb Gayheart)
4. 07:46 AM - Fw: funny (russ kinne)
5. 07:47 AM - Re: Re: Possible MkIII accident in Missouri (John Hauck)
6. 10:24 AM - Re: New Firefly owner looking for Mark III training in PA (mburdge39)
7. 11:37 AM - Re: Official Kolb-List Usage Guidelines (Fran Losey)
8. 11:43 AM - Re: Breeze up the boom tube (Thom Riddle)
9. 01:26 PM - Re: Re: New Firefly owner looking for Mark III training in PA (Pat Ladd)
10. 03:53 PM - Re: Re: New Firefly owner looking for Mark III training in PA (Gary Aman)
11. 03:59 PM - Kolbra video (tkben002)
12. 04:00 PM - Re: Official Kolb-List Usage Guidelines (Dana Hague)
13. 04:10 PM - Re: Official Kolb-List Usage Guidelines (Fran Losey)
14. 04:22 PM - Re: New Firefly owner looking for Mark III training in PA (mburdge39)
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Subject: | Re: Off field landings |
Thanks for sharing the video. Good entertainment. But, just wondering how cold
the water is (if one was to have an engine out and have to put down in it)?
Bill Varnes
Original Kolb FireStar
Audubon NJ
Thanks Bill. Hartwell is a pretty shallow lake that is about 15ft below normal
now, and it got baked into bath water over the summer. Believe it or not, it is
still quite warm. These days we're enjoying some really nice weather that is
keeping it hospitable for a while longer. But, yes, It will eventually get to
the point where it is no longer the comfy safety blanket I now enjoy.
When the weather (and water) become cold enough, I'll don my dry suit that I use
when I go kayaking in the cold. The seat cushion I use now, which serves double
duty as leaf blower blocker, and (in emergency) flotation device, will be
stowed away.
I did have an engine out once, over that lake. I was at about 600', and luckily
spotted a small island. From the air I could see it had a long shallow shoal
on each end. My plan was to land short in the shallow water and run in up on the
dry. I overshot my landing, (misjudged wind) landed dry, and ran it into the
water. When the mains hit that mud, It stood it on it's nose, was vertical for
3 seconds, and came down on on all 3.
After that my luck changed. A boater saw the whole thing, dropped off tools to
remove wings, returned with pontoon, wings across the rails, then returned to
get me and plane, JUST fit aboard, took me to boat landing where brother was waiting
with trailer.
Kolb fixed me up with FS2 nose (which made for a much improved windscreen), diagnosed
stoppage, added fuel pump filter, and I'm back.
Looking back now, I can honestly say (foolishly or not) that I was never worried
about me. I knew I could land wet and be safe. I just wanted to save the crate.
And I'm glad I was lucky enough to be able. I know when I fly low over water
I'm risking my Kolb, but not so much me. I feel safe low on the water.
John Tempest
Firestar 1
447
If the builder up in Eagle River sees this, I'm sorry. But she's fine, straight,
and flying great.
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Subject: | Re: Possible MkIII accident in Missouri |
Loved the write up of the `Mark 3 Kitfox` crash.
I didn`t know that in the US they employed 3 year olds who have not started
language lessons yet to write accident reports.
I have heard of `dumbing down but, good grief!.
Pat
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Subject: | Re: Possible MkIII accident in Missouri |
Since the FAA does not get a picture...guess one could register any
airplane as a Kolb? Just as long as the paperwork is up to snuff...Herb...
At 07:55 AM 10/9/2011, you wrote:
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>Loved the write up of the `Mark 3 Kitfox` crash.
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>I didn`t know that in the US they employed 3 year olds who have not
>started language lessons yet to write accident reports.
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>I have heard of `dumbing down but, good grief!.
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>Pat
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Hopefully this is NOT Kolb-related
>
> A blonde is on board a small two-seater airplane, when suddenly the
pilot dies. Not knowing how to fly a plane, she grabs the radio.
> "Mayday !, Mayday !, Mayday !, Help !, My pilot just died!"
> Ground control received her call for help, and answered back:
> "Don't worry, madam=EF=BD. I'll talk you down, just do as I say.
> First, I need you to give me your height, and position."
> "I'm 5"2', blonde and sitting in the right front seat."
> Ground control: "Repeat after me: Our Father... which art in Heaven
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> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
10/06/11 18:34:00
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Subject: | Re: Possible MkIII accident in Missouri |
Since the FAA does not get a picture...guess one could register any
airplane as a Kolb? Just as long as the paperwork is up to snuff...Herb...
Herb/Gang;
The N number was registered for a MKIII, but an Airworthiness Certificate
was never issued for that airplane. It was built by another individual and
sold to the gent involved in the crash.
Maybe this gent used the MKIII N number on his Kit Fox, or whatever it was,
that crashed.
john h
mkIII
Burns Junction, OR
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Subject: | Re: New Firefly owner looking for Mark III training in PA |
My firefly survived the journey to it's new home. Still looking for someone in
the PA/OH area that might be able to help me out with some Kolb training. Prefer
not to train in a 172. Any ideas?
Thanks!
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Mike
Firefly
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Subject: | Re: Official Kolb-List Usage Guidelines |
Hi Matt, would you please remove me from the Kolb list?
Thank you for the assistance.
Fran Losey
Sent from my iPad
Loseyf@comcast.net
On Oct 2, 2011, at 2:01, Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> wrote:
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Subject: | Re: Breeze up the boom tube |
This summer weather in October was waaay too good not to fly, so I flew to Bob
Bean's place and landed on his "mature grass" airstrip. No Brakes Required!
Enroute, I stuck my hand back under the rear seat and felt a light breeze, nothing
like I think the wide body Kolbs get. It was a little cool to have my forward
vents open so this slight breeze was with a bit of negative cabin pressure
(presumably) because the aft vents were open in exhaust mode. By the time I got
close to BB's place it was warm enough to open the forward vents, which I did.
With this bit of positive pressure, I stuck my hand back under the rear seat
and the air felt completely static to me.
My conclusion is that in MY slingshot, the breezy boom tube phenomenon is minimal
and then only without forward vents open. Other Kolb types or even other slingshots
may have a different experience.
After landing at BB's he gave me the grand tour of his brand new pole barn, just
finished yesterday except for the garage door. Then we cranked up both the Kolbs
and flew about 10 miles NW of his place to have lunch at Abe's Log Cabin
restaurant, a very short walk from a very nice two runway grass airstrip, called
Ridge Road West. After lunch we departed on our separate ways.
What a glorious October day for flying it was here in western New York.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Truth is what stands the test of experience.
- Albert Einstein
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Subject: | Re: New Firefly owner looking for Mark III training in |
PA
Prefer not to train in a 172. Any ideas?
Thanks!>>
If you already know how to fly just practice with your machine until you are
happy that you are in control when taxiing. Then pick a nice day, early
morning, big field or long runway and open the throttle. SLIGHT forward
stick to get the tail up and just sit there. She will climb away quite
happily. Dont let the speed drop.If things get too fast ease the stick
back.Level out , throttle back fly around at 1000 ft maybe try a GENTLE
stall so that you know what speed to land at according to your ASI. Add 10
mph to stall speed and fly an approach. Cut the throttle over the hedge
watching your nose to maintain speed. Flare JUST ABOVE the ground (if you
are on grass it is when the blur changes to individual blades of grass.) and
keep her flying as long as possible until the stick is back in your stomach
and the wheels touch the ground.
Do Not crowhop.Things happen too fast at low level. Get well clear of the
ground and give yourself time to sort it out.
Of course if you cannot fly already. Get some lessons.
Good luck
Pat
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Subject: | Re: New Firefly owner looking for Mark III training in |
PA
Have to agree with Pat
The difference between solo and two up, even in the MK3, makes it like two
different airplanes.
G.Aman,FS2 builder, MK3C Jabiru 2200A now
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From: Pat Ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Sent: Sun, Oct 9, 2011 4:26 pm
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: New Firefly owner looking for Mark III training
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Prefer not to train in a 172. Any ideas?
Thanks!>>
If you already know how to fly just practice with your machine until you ar
e
happy that you are in control when taxiing. Then pick a nice day, early
morning, big field or long runway and open the throttle. SLIGHT forward
stick to get the tail up and just sit there. She will climb away quite
happily. Dont let the speed drop.If things get too fast ease the stick
back.Level out , throttle back fly around at 1000 ft maybe try a GENTLE
stall so that you know what speed to land at according to your ASI. Add 10
mph to stall speed and fly an approach. Cut the throttle over the hedge
watching your nose to maintain speed. Flare JUST ABOVE the ground (if you
are on grass it is when the blur changes to individual blades of grass.) an
d
keep her flying as long as possible until the stick is back in your stomach
and the wheels touch the ground.
Do Not crowhop.Things happen too fast at low level. Get well clear of the
ground and give yourself time to sort it out.
Of course if you cannot fly already. Get some lessons.
Good luck
Pat
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My wife brought my son out to the airport so I took him for his first ride. He
was pretty excited. My wife filmed it so it is a little shaky.
Travis Bennett
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5WSIm4Uc-s
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Subject: | Re: Official Kolb-List Usage Guidelines |
Fran, you added yourself to this list, you have to remove
yourself. Information is at the bottom of each post.
-Dana
At 02:35 PM 10/9/2011, Fran Losey wrote:
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>Hi Matt, would you please remove me from the Kolb list?
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>Thank you for the assistance.
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>Fran Losey
>Sent from my iPad
>Loseyf@comcast.net
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>On Oct 2, 2011, at 2:01, Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> wrote:
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Subject: | Re: Official Kolb-List Usage Guidelines |
Thank you.
Fran Losey
Sent from my iPad
Loseyf@comcast.net
On Oct 9, 2011, at 18:47, Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net> wrote:
> Fran, you added yourself to this list, you have to remove yourself. Infor
mation is at the bottom of each post.
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> -Dana
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> At 02:35 PM 10/9/2011, Fran Losey wrote:
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>> Hi Matt, would you please remove me from the Kolb list?
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>> Thank you for the assistance.
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>> Fran Losey
>> Sent from my iPad
>> Loseyf@comcast.net
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Subject: | Re: New Firefly owner looking for Mark III training in PA |
Appreciate the tips guys.
I am 43 and years ago had a 2 axis quick. Then did PPG. Most recently been flying
trikes. Rudders are new to me!
I just got in from taxi practice and my feet are not connected with my brain yet(opposite
from the trike steering). I will keep practicing until the muscle memory
is there and I can control it naturally without "thinking". My buddy has
a Piper Cub and I can go up with him anytime I want, I just don't want it to
be counter productive to flying my Kolb.
Here are the 2 airstrips I will eventually be flying my Firefly out of!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dwnx3mOh6xU
Thanks again and look forward to being part of the Kolb family!
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Mike
Firefly
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