Kolb-List Digest Archive

Thu 10/27/11


Total Messages Posted: 26



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     1. 02:21 AM - Re: Re: Kolb MKIII video (Pat Ladd)
     2. 02:37 AM - Re: Kolb MKIII video (ces308)
     3. 02:48 AM - Re: Re: Kolb MKIII video (simonnelson@vodamail.co.za)
     4. 02:51 AM - Re: Re: Artical in the paper... (Pat Ladd)
     5. 04:36 AM - Re: Re: Kolb MKIII video (Pat Ladd)
     6. 04:55 AM - Re: Re: Kolb MKIII video (simonnelson@vodamail.co.za)
     7. 05:33 AM - Re: Re: Artical in the paper... (Gary Aman)
     8. 07:50 AM - Re: Kolb owners in Oregon, Washington? (Jason Omelchuck)
     9. 09:44 AM - Re: Trailers (Ozarkflyer)
    10. 02:28 PM - GPS in FireFly (David Kulp)
    11. 02:42 PM - Re: GPS in FireFly (Thom Riddle)
    12. 02:48 PM - Re: GPS in FireFly (John Hauck)
    13. 03:00 PM - Re: GPS in FireFly (David Kulp)
    14. 03:14 PM - Re: GPS in FireFly (David Kulp)
    15. 04:15 PM - Re: GPS in FireFly (Michael Welch)
    16. 04:28 PM - Re: GPS in FireFly (Michael Welch)
    17. 05:32 PM - Re: the aft cg club... (Dennis Thate)
    18. 05:43 PM - Re: Re: the aft cg club... (Gary Aman)
    19. 06:33 PM - Re: Re: the aft cg club... (Richard Girard)
    20. 06:40 PM - Re: the aft cg club... (Dennis Thate)
    21. 06:43 PM - Re: GPS in FireFly (Richard Pike)
    22. 06:46 PM - Re: the aft cg club... (Dennis Thate)
    23. 07:04 PM - Re: Re: Artical in the paper... (Richard Girard)
    24. 07:22 PM - Re: GPS in FireFly (David Kulp)
    25. 08:06 PM - Re: Re: GPS in FireFly (David Kulp)
    26. 08:19 PM - Re: Re: Artical in the paper... (william sullivan)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:21:45 AM PST US
    From: "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Kolb MKIII video
    In mine it is so loud you can hardly hear yourself think.>> All Kolbs are noisy. It is a feature of pushers I think. Certainly my Xtra with the Jabi is markedly noisier than the Eurostar with a Jabi which I had a share in. That was a tractor, admittedly cowled but like a sewing machine in comparison. In fact I saw somewhere that Rutan gave up designing pushers because it was impossible to get the noise down. Cheers Pat


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    Time: 02:37:17 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kolb MKIII video
    From: "ces308" <ces308@ldaco.com>
    Pat,all... Last weekend I was near Grr International airport and I heard this noise aloft and low and behold it was a Piagio Avanti ,twin pusher flying over and it sound like and pair of (high HP ) Kolbs flying over ..lol and I think that Rutan artical was in Flying a couple months ago.... just no way to quiet them down.... chris ambrose M3X/Jabiru A-2200 N327CS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356071#356071


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    Time: 02:48:23 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kolb MKIII video
    From: simonnelson@vodamail.co.za
    Its because of the air coming over th wing and hitting the prop, casing slap as in helicopters. Same problem with models. Sy ------Original Message------ From: Pat Ladd Sender: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: kolb-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb MKIII video Sent: Oct 27, 2011 11:19 In mine it is so loud you can hardly hear yourself think.>> All Kolbs are noisy. It is a feature of pushers I think. Certainly my Xtra with the Jabi is markedly noisier than the Eurostar with a Jabi which I had a share in. That was a tractor, admittedly cowled but like a sewing machine in comparison. In fact I saw somewhere that Rutan gave up designing pushers because it was impossible to get the noise down. Cheers Pat Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!


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    Time: 02:51:03 AM PST US
    From: "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Artical in the paper...
    ....and I think I may have given her to much information to sort though...>. Unfortunately that didn`t include any information about how to write in English. Perhaps the Editor is to blame. The page looks as though it was put together by a Home Compositor Kit Part one. I think that our local paper is pretty amateurish sometimes but it look like The Times compared to yours. Honestly we have freebee newssheets that look more professional. But still, no crash to report so that must make it noteworthy. Perhaps we should all take local reporters for a trip and get some good propaganda to counteract the usual complaints about noisy dangerous `homebuilts. When I was Secretary of the local Gliding Club, which had just started, I talked a reporter into a trip and he gave us a great write up which produced several new members. One never knows , do one? Pat


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    Time: 04:36:01 AM PST US
    From: "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Kolb MKIII video
    Same problem with models.>> Now that is interesting. I had no idea. The whup whup sound you get from helicopter blades is also exactly similar to a thrown boomerang Cheers Pat


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    Time: 04:55:01 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kolb MKIII video
    From: simonnelson@vodamail.co.za
    Yup, the dirty air off the wing does not go in 'clean - smooth' to the prop unlike the air at the top. Pain in the butt, when trying to fly a VERY fast delta pusher model quietly. Actually I have had better, er quieter with a laminar section and better flow control around the root and motor. Also you can move the prop further away, but your fin will get a tad nervous on your Kolb! Sy ------Original Message------ From: Pat Ladd Sender: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: kolb-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb MKIII video Sent: Oct 27, 2011 13:33 Same problem with models.>> Now that is interesting. I had no idea. The whup whup sound you get from helicopter blades is also exactly similar to a thrown boomerang Cheers Pat Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!


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    Time: 05:33:25 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Artical in the paper...
    From: Gary Aman <zeprep251@aol.com>
    picky,picky picky -----Original Message----- From: Pat Ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> Sent: Thu, Oct 27, 2011 5:51 am Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Artical in the paper... ....and I think I may have given her to much information to sort though...> . Unfortunately that didn`t include any information about how to write in English. Perhaps the Editor is to blame. The page looks as though it was put together by a Home Compositor Kit Part one. I think that our local paper is pretty amateurish sometimes but it look lik e The Times compared to yours. Honestly we have freebee newssheets that look more professional. But still, no crash to report so that must make it noteworthy. Perhaps we should all take local reporters for a trip and get some good propaganda to counteract the usual complaints about noisy dangerous `homebuilts. When I was Secretary of the local Gliding Club, which had just started, I talked a reporter into a trip and he gave us a great write up which produce d several new members. One never knows , do one? Pat


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    Time: 07:50:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kolb owners in Oregon, Washington?
    From: "Jason Omelchuck" <jason@trek-tech.com>
    Hello Martin, I built a MKIII a few years back but sold it to a guy in California. As luck would have it, He has sold it to a guy here in Portland who is going to pick it up this weekend. I am sure I could arrange a "sit" for you. We have a monthly flying club meeting on the first Tuesday of the month at the Bomber Restaurant in Milwaukee. Most of us fly very light aircraft. Stop on by if you want. Jason Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356090#356090


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    Time: 09:44:18 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Trailers
    From: "Ozarkflyer" <lragan@hotmail.com>
    John Have you decided on an itinerary yet or any specific areas you are interested in seeing? I'm sure there are any number of us that would welcome the opportunity to meet you and even provide a spot to stay. If you get anywhere near my neck of the woods (www.mountainviewcc.org) let me know and I'd be happy to provide a spot for you to park your gear and we have a spare room. Larry Ragan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356103#356103


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    Time: 02:28:01 PM PST US
    From: David Kulp <undoctor@ptd.net>
    Subject: GPS in FireFly
    Kolbers, I have a Garmin Zumo GPS which is shared on my pickup, cycle and FireFly. I currently have it mounted on my instrument panel, but it's difficult to reach and read from where I sit. I was trying to figure another place to put it, limited to the left side, since I climb in and out the right side. With the throttle handle on the left, the only place I can figure would be to attach it to the windshield about 8" from the bottom. I would bond a piece of plastic on the windshield, maybe 4" in diameter, to spread out the stress on the plastic. It would be perfect there from my perspective, but I was wondering about the windshield's perspective. Does anyone have any suggestions, cautions, alternate locations, etc. Also have a question about Matco laydown brakes: there's an air bubble in the one line and I've never bled brakes like those. Must you disconnect the master cylinder and lift it out into the open in order to add brake fluid? I can't really feel any difference between left and right braking, so maybe I should just leave well enough alone. Input would be much appreciated. Thanks, Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA FireFly 11DMK


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    Time: 02:42:51 PM PST US
    From: Thom Riddle <riddletr@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: GPS in FireFly
    Dave, I use a suction cup mount for my iPhone which I now use for my GPS. It stays on the windshield very well(not fallen off yet) and I can remove it after flight and use it in my car. Thom in Buffalo On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 5:25 PM, David Kulp <undoctor@ptd.net> wrote: > > > Kolbers, > > I have a Garmin Zumo GPS which is shared on my pickup, cycle and FireFly. > I currently have it mounted on my instrument panel, but it's difficult to > reach and read from where I sit. I was trying to figure another place to > put it, limited to the left side, since I climb in and out the right side. > With the throttle handle on the left, the only place I can figure would be > to attach it to the windshield about 8" from the bottom. I would bond a > piece of plastic on the windshield, maybe 4" in diameter, to spread out the > stress on the plastic. It would be perfect there from my perspective, but I > was wondering about the windshield's perspective. > > Does anyone have any suggestions, cautions, alternate locations, etc. > > Also have a question about Matco laydown brakes: there's an air bubble in > the one line and I've never bled brakes like those. Must you disconnect the > master cylinder and lift it out into the open in order to add brake fluid? > I can't really feel any difference between left and right braking, so maybe > I should just leave well enough alone. Input would be much appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Dave Kulp > Bethlehem, PA > FireFly 11DMK > >


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    Time: 02:48:40 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: GPS in FireFly
    I have a Garmin Zumo GPS Does anyone have any suggestions, cautions, alternate locations, etc. Also have a question about Matco laydown brakes: there's an air bubble in the one line and I've never bled brakes like those Dave Kulp Dave K/Folks: I've worn my GPS on my left thigh since day one, 1993, because I had no room to mount it in the MKIII. I used part of the yoke mount, modified it with a piece of 2" Velcro that wraps around my leg. MATCO brakes should be bled from the bleed screw back up through the system and through each master cylinder and into the recovery container. I use a loop of 1/4" ID fuel line looped from one master cylinder to the other. The loop goes up into the nose cone. A few holes are drilled into the top of the loop to vent to the atmosphere. Clear brake line and clear fuel line allows one to see if there is air being pumped through the system. I use a small hand pump oil can and 1/8" ID clear line to connect the pump to the bleed screw. You may have to position the aircraft to allow air to escape from the highest point of each part of the brake system. Should have zero air in the system in order for the brake system to work properly. john h mkIII hauck's holler, alabama


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    Time: 03:00:46 PM PST US
    From: David Kulp <undoctor@ptd.net>
    Subject: Re: GPS in FireFly
    Good to hear from you, Thom. I have a smaller Garmin that I use in the 18 wheeler that I attach to the windshield with a suction cup since I slip seats, and it stays on just fine. My FF windshield has a curvature and I assumed a suction cup wouldn't stay. I'm going to have to dig my mount from my gear jammer bag and put it in my flight bag to test it. Thanks, Thom. Hope it works out! Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA FireFly 11DMK On 10/27/2011 5:40 PM, Thom Riddle wrote: > Dave, > > I use a suction cup mount for my iPhone which I now use for my GPS. It > stays on the windshield very well(not fallen off yet) and I can remove > it after flight and use it in my car. > > Thom in Buffalo > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 5:25 PM, David Kulp <undoctor@ptd.net > <mailto:undoctor@ptd.net>> wrote: > > <mailto:undoctor@ptd.net>> > > > Kolbers, > > I have a Garmin Zumo GPS which is shared on my pickup, cycle and > FireFly. I currently have it mounted on my instrument panel, but > it's difficult to reach and read from where I sit. I was trying > to figure another place to put it, limited to the left side, since > I climb in and out the right side. With the throttle handle on > the left, the only place I can figure would be to attach it to the > windshield about 8" from the bottom. I would bond a piece of > plastic on the windshield, maybe 4" in diameter, to spread out the > stress on the plastic. It would be perfect there from my > perspective, but I was wondering about the windshield's perspective. > > Does anyone have any suggestions, cautions, alternate locations, etc. > > Also have a question about Matco laydown brakes: there's an air > bubble in the one line and I've never bled brakes like those. > Must you disconnect the master cylinder and lift it out into the > open in order to add brake fluid? I can't really feel any > difference between left and right braking, so maybe I should just > leave well enough alone. Input would be much appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Dave Kulp > Bethlehem, PA > FireFly 11DMK > > > =================================== > arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > =================================== > http://forums.matronics.com > =================================== > le, List Admin. > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > =================================== > > > * > > > *


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    Time: 03:14:00 PM PST US
    From: David Kulp <undoctor@ptd.net>
    Subject: Re: GPS in FireFly
    Hi John, Leg mounted GPS is kind of out with my Icom on one and kneeboard on the other. Maybe I'll find another place for my Icom since I recently bought a stick mount PTT to cut down on the noise when I'm transmitting and use your suggestion. If the suction cup works out, I'll probably go with that. Thanks, too, for the bleeding guide. Best to start a job knowing what you're doing than fixing mistakes halfway in. So you're pumping fluid from the bleeder screw at the wheel back up to the master cylinders, right. The oil can is a great Idea for that! Appreciate it, John. Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA FireFly 11DMK On 10/27/2011 5:46 PM, John Hauck wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck"<jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > > > I have a Garmin Zumo GPS > Does anyone have any suggestions, cautions, alternate locations, etc. > > Also have a question about Matco laydown brakes: there's an air bubble > in the one line and I've never bled brakes like those > > Dave Kulp > > > Dave K/Folks: > > I've worn my GPS on my left thigh since day one, 1993, because I had no room > to mount it in the MKIII. I used part of the yoke mount, modified it with a > piece of 2" Velcro that wraps around my leg. > > MATCO brakes should be bled from the bleed screw back up through the system > and through each master cylinder and into the recovery container. I use a > loop of 1/4" ID fuel line looped from one master cylinder to the other. The > loop goes up into the nose cone. A few holes are drilled into the top of the > loop to vent to the atmosphere. Clear brake line and clear fuel line allows > one to see if there is air being pumped through the system. I use a small > hand pump oil can and 1/8" ID clear line to connect the pump to the bleed > screw. You may have to position the aircraft to allow air to escape from > the highest point of each part of the brake system. Should have zero air in > the system in order for the brake system to work properly. > > john h > mkIII > hauck's holler, alabama > >


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    Time: 04:15:44 PM PST US
    From: Michael Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: GPS in FireFly
    Dave, Have you done a search on eBay. They have a huge selection of Cell Phone/PDA/GPS holders. They come as suction cup style, bean bag weighted ones, clamp ons, etc. Tons to choose from. I have one of the chinese suction cup types, with the 8" articulating arm. The GPS clamp mechanism is ok, and long arm is ok, too. But the suction cup locking device is typical chinese crapola. I think if I were to depend on one of these type of holders (suction cup, bean bag type) I'd probably make my own mounting added on to theirs. Probably use a large patch of Velcro 4-6 sq inches glued to a flatish surface, and somehow attach a mating Velcro plate on their devise. On the other hand, the "clamp style" is probably the best and most secure. All you need to do is make a short tube mount for the thing to clamp on to. Hey, just throwin' suggestions out there............ Mike Welch


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    Time: 04:28:14 PM PST US
    From: Michael Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: GPS in FireFly
    Dave, Like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bicycle-Bike-Cell-Phone-PDA-GPS-Clamp-Mount-Hold-Holder-/130554026674?pt=AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item1e65a05ab2#ht_2872wt_973 Or maybe even something like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/GARMIN-NUVI-550-500-zumo-220-suction-cup-mount-holder-/250649129430?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a5bda31d6#ht_1024wt_999 The point is, there a million types( not really a million, but almost), you just have to figure out which one works the best in your situation. Cheers, Mike Welch


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    Time: 05:32:32 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: the aft cg club...
    From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman@frontier.com>
    Good News After a W&B redo and a quality scale we found I'm still far aft. But safely within my cg envelope limits. [Exclamation] -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern These flying machines are just a fad and will never catch on Unknown Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356141#356141 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc03256_834.jpg


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    Time: 05:43:43 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: the aft cg club...
    From: Gary Aman <zeprep251@aol.com>
    Dennis, My Firestar 2 needed15# of lead in the nose plus my 170lbs. But it was heavy with paint,aerothane,and almost all the painted surfaces a re aft.It was 417# empty, 503dcdi ivo 3 blade w/brakes.It was still a rocke t. G.Aman -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Thate <retroman@frontier.com> Sent: Thu, Oct 27, 2011 8:32 pm Subject: Kolb-List: Re: the aft cg club... Good News After a W&B redo and a quality scale we found I'm still far aft. But saf ely within my cg envelope limits. [Exclamation] -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist inve nts the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern =C3=A2=C2=C2=C3=A2=C2=C2=9DThese flying machines are just a fad an d will never catch on=C3=A2=C2=C2=C3=A2=C2=C2=9D Unknown Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356141#356141 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc03256_834.jpg


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    Time: 06:33:08 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: the aft cg club...
    From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
    Far aft? What is it in percent of chord? Rick Girard On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Dennis Thate <retroman@frontier.com> wrote : > > Good News > > After a W&B redo and a quality scale we found I'm still far aft. But > safely within my cg envelope limits. [Exclamation] > > -------- > Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist > invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern > > =85=94These flying machines are just a fad and will never catch on=85=94 Unknown > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356141#356141 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc03256_834.jpg > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx


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    Time: 06:40:58 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: the aft cg club...
    From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman@frontier.com>
    zeprep251(at)aol.com wrote: > Dennis, My Firestar 2 needed15# of lead in the nose plus my 170lbs.But it was heavy with paint,aerothane,and almost all the painted surfaces are aft.It was 417# empty, 503dcdi ivo 3 blade w/brakes.It was still a rocket. > G.Aman > > Good to know...I've decided to put a motorcycle battery up front so I can use my electric heated cycle vest in my open cockpit Kolb. > And extend my flying seasons a bit........ > > > > > > -- [Idea] -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern These flying machines are just a fad and will never catch on Unknown Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356145#356145


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    Time: 06:43:48 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: GPS in FireFly
    From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
    Make a bracket and mount it on the stick. Here's how: Take a piece of tubing about 3" long and the same diameter as the control stick and split it in half. Spread it open a hair. Weld a 3/16" rod to the top of it sticking out sideways. Solder that to a piece of copper sheet (from the hobby shop) that is bent so that the gps fits into it snugly. Angle it so it is easy to see. Roll the rubber grip back and slip the half tube into place, wrap it at the top with a couple wraps of electrical tape, it won't go anywhere. And (Taa-Daa!) you can poke the gps with your thumb without ever having to take your hand off the stick. If you want detailed closeups, let me know, I'll get you some tomorrow. -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356146#356146 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/interior9_129.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/interior3_126.jpg


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    Time: 06:46:31 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: the aft cg club...
    From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman@frontier.com>
    20% _____ 35% 12.4________21.7 My cg 21.18 and a gross weight of 679# -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern These flying machines are just a fad and will never catch on Unknown Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356147#356147


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    Time: 07:04:15 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Artical in the paper...
    From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
    A people divided by a common language, isn't that what Churchill said? There was a time when newspaper writing was considered a trade and it was taught on the job. Then the colleges got hold of it and now journalism majors are so full of themselves they can't write a decent first sentence and get in the five W's to save themselves. Rick Girard On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Gary Aman <zeprep251@aol.com> wrote: > picky,picky picky > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> > To: kolb-list <kolb-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Thu, Oct 27, 2011 5:51 am > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Artical in the paper... > > > > > ....and I think I may have given her to much information to sort though...>. > > Unfortunately that didn`t include any information about how to write in > English. Perhaps the Editor is to blame. The page looks as though it was > put together by a Home Compositor Kit Part one. > > I think that our local paper is pretty amateurish sometimes but it look like > The Times compared to yours. Honestly we have freebee newssheets that look > more professional. > > But still, no crash to report so that must make it noteworthy. Perhaps we > should all take local reporters for a trip and get some good propaganda to > counteract the usual complaints about noisy dangerous `homebuilts. > > When I was Secretary of the local Gliding Club, which had just started, I > talked a reporter into a trip and he gave us a great write up which produced > several new members. > > One never knows , do one? > > Pat > > > get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > * > > * > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx


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    Time: 07:22:12 PM PST US
    From: David Kulp <undoctor@ptd.net>
    Subject: Re: GPS in FireFly
    Thanks, Mike. The bottom link is the cradle I use for the Nuvi in the rig. Works well since there's just a simple plug in back that goes to the lighter socker. But the Zumo motorcycle GPS has about 16 pins as part of the cradle that must plug and lock the unit, so I have one (expensive) cradle in my pickup, one on my cycle and one in my FF. I have RAM mounts, so I can configure their suction cup in the FF if it will hang on to the windshield. Strong gusty winds Tue, rain today, drive 18 wheeler tomorrow, and I was hoping to fly Sat, but they're calling for 4 - 6" on snow on Sat!!!!!! Get real, it's still October, right? I guess we'll have more nice days before the deep freeze... Thanks again, Mike. I appreciate your suggestions. Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA FireFly 11DMK On 10/27/2011 7:25 PM, Michael Welch wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Michael Welch<mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com> > > Dave, > > Like this: > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bicycle-Bike-Cell-Phone-PDA-GPS-Clamp-Mount-Hold-Holder-/130554026674?pt=AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item1e65a05ab2#ht_2872wt_973 > > Or maybe even something like this: > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/GARMIN-NUVI-550-500-zumo-220-suction-cup-mount-holder-/250649129430?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a5bda31d6#ht_1024wt_999 > > The point is, there a million types( not really a million, but almost), you just have to figure out which one works the best in your situation. > > Cheers, > Mike Welch > >


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    Time: 08:06:47 PM PST US
    From: David Kulp <undoctor@ptd.net>
    Subject: Re: GPS in FireFly
    Nice setup, Richard, thanks! I'm going to try the simpler way and see if the RAM suction cup will stay on my windshield, especially since the entire cradle is necessary with the 16 pins. BTW, I enjoyed your vids! You land uphill after clearing wires, too, huh? My strip is pretty steep so you've got to kind of fly into the hillside because if you try to fly parallel so your wheels are brushing the top of the blades of grass you'd be taking off again. Takes a bit of getting used to. Just glad to have a strip with reasonable rent relatively close to home (and an owner with a hydraulic truck to roll your hangar/trailer upright again after the hurricane!!). Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA FireFly 11DMK On 10/27/2011 9:41 PM, Richard Pike wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Pike"<richard@bcchapel.org> > > Make a bracket and mount it on the stick. Here's how: > Take a piece of tubing about 3" long and the same diameter as the control stick and split it in half. Spread it open a hair. Weld a 3/16" rod to the top of it sticking out sideways. Solder that to a piece of copper sheet (from the hobby shop) that is bent so that the gps fits into it snugly. Angle it so it is easy to see. > > Roll the rubber grip back and slip the half tube into place, wrap it at the top with a couple wraps of electrical tape, it won't go anywhere. And (Taa-Daa!) you can poke the gps with your thumb without ever having to take your hand off the stick. > > If you want detailed closeups, let me know, I'll get you some tomorrow. > > -------- > Richard Pike > Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org > Kingsport, TN 3TN0 > Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. > Hebrews 11:1 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356146#356146 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/interior9_129.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/interior3_126.jpg > >


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    Time: 08:19:06 PM PST US
    From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Artical in the paper...
    -- Rick- How do I click "LIKE" on this forum? ------------------------- ------------------ Bill Sullivan ------------------------- ------------------ English major do not archive --- On Thu, 10/27/11, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote: From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Artical in the paper... A people divided by a common language, isn't that what Churchill said?-Th ere was a time when newspaper writing was considered a trade and it was tau ght on the job. Then the colleges got hold of it and now journalism majors are so full of themselves they can't write a decent first sentence and get in the five W's to save themselves.=0A Rick Girard On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Gary Aman <zeprep251@aol.com> wrote: =0Apicky,picky picky=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A-----Original Message----- =0A=0AFrom: Pat Ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> =0A=0ATo: kolb-list <kolb-list@matronics.com> =0A=0ASent: Thu, Oct 27, 2011 5:51 am =0A=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Artical in the paper... =0A=0A add" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>=0A=0A....and I think I may have given her to much information to sort though...>.=0A=0AUnfortunately that didn`t include any information about how to write in =0AEnglish. Perhaps the Editor is t o blame. The page looks as though it was =0Aput together by a Home Composit or Kit Part one.=0A=0AI think that our local paper is pretty amateurish so metimes but it look like =0AThe Times compared to yours. Honestly we have freebee newssheets that look =0Amore professional.=0A=0ABut still, no crash to report so that must make it noteworthy. Perhaps we =0Ashould all take l ocal reporters for a trip and get some good propaganda to =0Acounteract th e usual complaints about noisy dangerous `homebuilts.=0A=0AWhen I was Secre tary of the local Gliding Club, which had just started, I =0Atalked a repo rter into a trip and he gave us a great write up which produced =0Aseveral new members.=0A=0AOne never knows , do one?=0A=0APat=0A=0A=0Aget="_blank" >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List=0Atp://forums.matronics.com =0A_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0Aget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?K olb-List=0Atp://forums.matronics.com=0A_blank">http://www.matronics.com/con tribution=0A=0A -- Zulu DeltaMk IIICThanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. =0A- - Groucho Marx -======================== ====================0A=0A




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