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Mon 10/31/11


Total Messages Posted: 12



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     1. 03:56 AM - Re: Re: Fuel Tender Ideas please (Pat Ladd)
     2. 06:21 AM - Re: Re: Fuel Tender Ideas please (Gary Aman)
     3. 06:39 AM - Re: Re: Fuel Tender Ideas please (Gary Aman)
     4. 06:43 AM - Re: Re: Fuel Tender Ideas please (John Hauck)
     5. 09:51 AM - List Guidelines - please follow (Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/EN)
     6. 01:03 PM - Re: Re: Fuel Tender Ideas please (Pat Ladd)
     7. 01:08 PM - Re: Re: Fuel Tender Ideas please (Pat Ladd)
     8. 05:56 PM - A Virus has invaded my email, Sorry! (Michael Welch)
     9. 06:07 PM - Virus Corrupting my system (Michael Welch)
    10. 06:49 PM - Re: Re: Kolb MKIII video (Eugene Zimmerman)
    11. 07:01 PM - Re: GPS in FireFly (Don G)
    12. 09:43 PM - Re: Kolb MKIII video (Richard Pike)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:56:13 AM PST US
    From: "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Tender Ideas please
    > 20 gal drum with Carter electric fuel pump-12volt off the race car, with > 20ft of 3/8 neoprene> Unless it is imperative that you keep a large amount of fuel on site this seems like overkill. I would never have fuel around any electrics it was possible to avoid it. You are only talking about transferring 10 galls max and even then only if your tank is completely empty.. How long can it take ? If I need it I pick up a jerrycan (20 litres) of fuel at the garage on the way to the strip. I have a cheap plastic pump with a stiff plastic hose of about 1 inch dia. on the inlet side. This can be cut to length to suit your container. There is a flexible plastic hose of similar bore on the output side. This snaps into a Terry Clip fixed to one of the internal struts behind the seats and leads the end of the hose into the strainer funnel and into the tank. The pumping action is provided by two cylinders which fit loosely inside each other. One has a small handle attached and this is pulled and pushed over a distance of about 2 inches. If you sit on the jerrycan to hold it steady, as I do, it presents an interesting picture as you are vibrating the pump somewhere in the region of your groin. Transfer 10 gall. takes around 5 minutes. The whole thing weighs only a few ounces and travels easily on the cockpit floor. This enables me to transfer fuel from the spare jerrycan I carry in the passengers seat if I land away from any facilities. For what its worth Pat


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    Time: 06:21:00 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel Tender Ideas please
    From: Gary Aman <zeprep251@aol.com>
    Dennis, Absolutely.I'm sure the one horsepower model shown in that video will gener ate no sparks.I also enclosed the pump switch in an airtight plastic box.,c an't be too careful! Never thought of a pump system that runs on hay. G.Aman -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Thate <retroman@frontier.com> Sent: Sun, Oct 30, 2011 9:55 pm Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Fuel Tender Ideas please zeprep251(at)aol.com wrote: > 20 gal drum with Carter electric fuel pump-12volt off the race car, with 20ft of 3/8 neoprene gas line with a phony plastic nozzle.Must pump about 2.5 ga l per min.There is a good picture of the set up on oh2fly's trailer web page.The pump was about 80.00,can't remember what the line cost,but it beats cranking big time. > G.Aman > > > > > > -- Maybe I'm being overly cautious, I want to stay away from any chance of spa rks; battery / electric of any kind... I have a farm background and like simplic ity. http://bcove.me/4tryzjbk [Laughing] -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist inve nts the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern =C3=A2=C2=C2=C3=A2=C2=C2=9DThese flying machines are just a fad an d will never catch on=C3=A2=C2=C2=C3=A2=C2=C2=9D Unknown Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356373#356373


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    Time: 06:39:33 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel Tender Ideas please
    From: Gary Aman <zeprep251@aol.com>
    Pat, I burn 100LL av fuel so having a supply near the strip is handy,but I still have to transport it by truck from the airport in jerrycans,usually 30gal at a time once or twice a year.Spilling fuel in the cabin of the MK3 was al ways a concern.Auto fuel stinks and remains that way a long time if you spi ll it on upholstered areas.100LL does neither.I used to slip a 5ft long pie ce of 3/4 heater hose over the nozzle of the gas can ,stick it in the fuel tank and lift the can. I considered an electric motor for the Kolb,but all those extension cord s----- G>A. -----Original Message----- From: Pat Ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> Sent: Mon, Oct 31, 2011 6:56 am Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Fuel Tender Ideas please > 20 gal drum with Carter electric fuel pump-12volt off the race car, with > 20ft of 3/8 neoprene> Unless it is imperative that you keep a large amount of fuel on site this seems like overkill. I would never have fuel around any electrics it was possible to avoid it. You are only talking about transferring 10 galls max and even then only if your tank is completely empty.. How long can it take ? If I need it I pick up a jerrycan (20 litres) of fuel at the garage on the way to the strip. I have a cheap plastic pump with a stiff plastic hose of about 1 inch dia. on the inlet side. This can be cut to length to suit your container. There is a flexible plastic hose of similar bore on the output side. This snaps into a Terry Clip fixed to one of the internal struts behind the seats and leads the end of the hose into the strainer funnel and into the tank. The pumping action is provided by two cylinders which fit loosely inside each other. One has a small handle attached and this is pulled and pushed over a distance of about 2 inches. If you sit on the jerrycan to hold it steady, as I do, it presents an interesting picture as you are vibrating the pump somewhere in the region o f your groin. Transfer 10 gall. takes around 5 minutes. The whole thing weighs only a fe w ounces and travels easily on the cockpit floor. This enables me to transfer fuel from the spare jerrycan I carry in the passengers seat if I land away from any facilities. For what its worth Pat


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    Time: 06:43:33 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Tender Ideas please
    > 20 gal drum with Carter electric fuel pump-12volt off the race car, with > 20ft of 3/8 neoprene> Unless it is imperative that you keep a large amount of fuel on site this seems like overkill. For what its worth Pat Patrick L/Gang: Depends on how much you fly and/or the fuel capacity of your tank. I can knock out a 20 gal tank, then run back to the store and get another 5 gal to finish topping off. I am not by myself, flying with more than 5 or 10 gal capacity. I fuel from 5 gal cans with a 6 foot section of 7/8" ID vinyl tubing stuck on the end of the gas can spout. Takes a minute or two to transfer 5 gal, and my fuel filler is located on the top of the center section. I do have to hold the gas can over my head during the fueling process. One of these days I probably will not be able to do that. At that time I will start filling the 5 gal cans with 2.5 gal. I usually carry this 6 foot piece of vinyl hose in aircraft on long cross country flights. Occasionally, I'll have a chance to obtain mogas and refuel from a gas can. Now that 100LL is averaging 5.50 a gal, I'll probably be making a more concerted effort to burn mogas and use my Alabama credit card (6' siphon hose). If you think a 20 gal fuel tank is an overkill, you should see the refuel set up at the Rock House. Larry has a couple two or three 55 gal drums with high capacity electric fuel pump and nozzle, and a 15 or 20 gal mobile tank with manual pump. He needs every bit of that capacity, especially when a bunch of us show up and do a lot of flying. I'm still gun shy about using fuel from gas cans at places I am not familiar with. The two times I had engine failures with the 912 engine, both were the result of contaminated fuel acquired from unreliable sources with contaminated fuel cans. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama - 33F this morning. ;-(


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    Time: 09:51:17 AM PST US
    Subject: List Guidelines - please follow
    From: "Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/EN" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
    "Dennis Thate" wrote: << Thought for the day - Life is Good, and I'm told ... >> C'mon, guys - Matt Dralle gives us the guidelines for a good reason. If your post has absolutely NOTHING to do with flying or Kolbs, at least add the "Do Not Archive" suffix to your posts! Dennis Kirby New Mexico Do not archive


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    Time: 01:03:00 PM PST US
    From: "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Tender Ideas please
    should see the refuel set up at the Rock House. Larry has a couple two or three 55 gal drums with high capacity electric fuel pump and nozzle, and a 15 or 20 gal mobile tank with manual pump. >> If I was running an airfield miles from anywhere I would have something like that too. I am talking about 1 plane with a garage half a mile away. As for holding a fuel can above my head. Forget it. Cheers Pat


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    Time: 01:08:04 PM PST US
    From: "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Tender Ideas please
    Spilling fuel in the cabin of the MK3 >> Gary, I have a large hole with an insert to close it off, cut into the plastic side window of the Xtra just where the filler on the tank is. Careful not to spill fuel on the Lexan though. Easier to refuel through the door which is what I usually do. It does stink though if you spill some. Pat


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    Time: 05:56:19 PM PST US
    Subject: A Virus has invaded my email, Sorry!
    From: Michael Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
    Hey everyone, I just came in to check my email and it seems as though all hell has broken loose! I have about 20 "Postmaster returned emails, and evidently lots of notices from you folks that I must have picked up a virus. Have I ever mentioned I personally would removed these a..hole's testicles with a dull knife if I could catch them. Many apologies to everybody, now I have to get this resolved! Mike Welch


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    Time: 06:07:09 PM PST US
    Subject: Virus Corrupting my system
    From: Michael Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
    List Members, My sincere apologies to all. It appears as though my computer was attacked by a virus within the last hour. My son, the computer whiz, has told me how to get it resolved immediately, which I will. Sorry if this causes anyone else an inconvenience, too. Mike Welch


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    Time: 06:49:23 PM PST US
    From: Eugene Zimmerman <etzimm@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Kolb MKIII video
    Richard, Plain blue page with October 25, 2011 at the top is all I get? No video. Do I need a particular plugin for my browser? Gene On Oct 30, 2011, at 7:59 PM, Richard Pike wrote: > > [quote="slyck(at)frontiernet.net"]bad link? > BB > [quote] > > Shouldn't be, but go here: > > http://www.bcchapel.org/MESF/3TN0.html > > And go to the bottom of the page and click on the appropriate link - > > -------- > Richard Pike > Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org > Kingsport, TN 3TN0 > Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. > Hebrews 11:1 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356363#356363 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:01:21 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: GPS in FireFly
    From: "Don G" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
    Dave, I have a RAM mounted garmin in my KitFox, and I am sure a similiar mount would work in the Fly'...it extends the device about 5 inches toward you when in the straight position, and the RAM system is secure as you can get. I have just recently seen several universal RAM attachments at a trade show and I am pretty certain they have one that would fit your GPS...they look like a sort of spider legged clap deal that binds the device from the sides. this attackment , coupled with the ball and socket RAM mount would easily bolt to the panel. -------- Don G. Central Illinois Kitfox IV Speedster Luscombe 8A Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356466#356466


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    Time: 09:43:02 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kolb MKIII video
    From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
    Eugene Zimmerman wrote: > Richard,Plain blue page with October 25, 2011 at the top is all I get? > No video. Do I need a particular plugin for my browser? > Gene > I wouldn't think so, it is an .mpeg-4 video, it ought to open in Windows Media Player. If you are using Firefox, try Internet Explorer, or Safari? I set up our MESF club website from my church webpage, and we don't have the bandwidth that Youtube or Vimeo does - give it a while to load and see what happens? If that don't work - I dunno man, I know some things, but I ain't no guru... -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356472#356472




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