---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 11/02/11: 21 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:15 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 11/01/11 (Ted) 2. 05:13 AM - Re: GPS in FireFly (Don G) 3. 06:01 AM - Re: noise (McCarthy Tom) 4. 06:39 AM - Re: noise (John Hauck) 5. 06:43 AM - FW: noise (John Hauck) 6. 06:52 AM - Re: noise (Andy and Sheila Slinkard) 7. 07:29 AM - Re: noise (Richard Pike) 8. 08:49 AM - Re: Re: GPS in FireFly (chris davis) 9. 11:20 AM - Re: GPS in FireFly (Richard Pike) 10. 12:16 PM - Re: Re: noise (frank goodnight) 11. 02:57 PM - Picture size (Richard Girard) 12. 04:20 PM - Headsets & hearing loss (Richard Pike) 13. 04:22 PM - Re: Re: GPS in FireFly (David Kulp) 14. 05:32 PM - Re: Headsets & hearing loss (SS568) 15. 05:38 PM - Nov 1 (robert bean) 16. 05:59 PM - Re: Re: Kolb MKIII video (Eugene Zimmerman) 17. 07:03 PM - Re: Picture size (Andy and Sheila Slinkard) 18. 07:20 PM - Re: Headsets & hearing loss (Richard Pike) 19. 07:27 PM - Re: Kolb MKIII video (Richard Pike) 20. 07:33 PM - Re: Picture size (Richard Pike) 21. 07:49 PM - Re: Headsets & hearing loss (frank goodnight) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:15:45 AM PST US From: Ted Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 11/01/11 If you can reach out and touch the underside of the wing while flying you will find your noise. Extreme vibration. Same with you fuse. Put some kind of foam on the inside of the fuse side walls. This helps. Next time i build or rebuild one i will also put dampening material inside the wing on the bottom Cloth. It acts as a drum. Other than that i use a chopper helmet with ANR. Nice and quiet at least to me. Other than that darned rum rum from the gears I think The carb is also making a lot of your noise. My opinions from building abt a doz planes ted cowan slingshot 912UL zoom zoom Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2011, at 1:59 AM, Kolb-List Digest Server wrote: > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Kolb-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. 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(Matt Dralle) > 1. 04:12 AM - noise (frank goodnight) > 2. 05:42 AM - Re: noise (robert bean) > 3. 06:18 AM - Re: noise (Andy and Sheila Slinkard) > 4. 06:20 AM - Re: noise (frank goodnight) > 5. 06:42 AM - Re: noise (George Alexander) > 6. 08:08 AM - Re: noise (Rick Neilsen) > 7. 04:20 PM - Re: noise (gliderx5@comcast.net) > 8. 07:35 PM - Re: noise (Richard Pike) > 9. 08:04 PM - Every Hangar should have one (Dennis Thate) > 10. 08:04 PM - Re: Re: GPS in FireFly (David Kulp) > 11. 08:06 PM - Re: Re: noise (Andy and Sheila Slinkard) > > > > ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:49:00 AM PST US > From: Matt Dralle > Subject: Kolb-List: PLEASE READ - 2011 List Fund Raiser Kickoff - 21 Years Strong!! > > > Dear Listers, > > This year marks 21 years of the Email Lists and Forums at Matronics! I've been > running these forums for nearly half my life! 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All three methods afford > you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying > Contribution amount!! > > To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below: > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral > support over the years! > > Matt Dralle > Matronics Email List Administrator > RV-8 Builder (and Rebuilder) and Flyer > RV-6 Rebuilder and Flyer > RV-4 Builder > > > ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 04:12:20 AM PST US > From: frank goodnight > Subject: Kolb-List: noise > > Hi Kolbers, > Has anyone out there ever tried to kill some of the noise on a firestar 2 ? > I use a HKS engine with the up exhaust , and the noise is driving me nuts. > got the noise canceling head set DR 6000 sometimes use it and ear plugs > at the same time , still too loud . To talk to the tower I have to pull power > > off > and stall the plane. that works ok if I'm the one that does the calling , but > > if > someone wants to talk to me the problems start. If anyone has had any success > with sound proofing ---batts blankets , whatever I sure would like to know what > > they > did.Appreciate any help. > ' > Frank Goodnight > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 05:42:41 AM PST US > From: robert bean > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: noise > > Have you tried a foam mic cover? > BB > do not archive > > On 1, Nov 2011, at 7:09 AM, frank goodnight wrote: > >> Hi Kolbers, >> Has anyone out there ever tried to kill some of the noise on a > firestar 2 ? >> I use a HKS engine with the up exhaust , and the noise is driving me > nuts. >> got the noise canceling head set DR 6000 sometimes use it and ear > plugs >> at the same time , still too loud . To talk to the tower I have to > pull power off >> and stall the plane. that works ok if I'm the one that does the > calling , but if >> someone wants to talk to me the problems start. If anyone has had any > success >> with sound proofing ---batts blankets , whatever I sure would like to > know what they >> did.Appreciate any help. >> ' >> Frank Goodnight >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:18:06 AM PST US > From: "Andy and Sheila Slinkard" > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: noise > > Frank, > This problem concerned me from the start with construction of my > Firestar II with HKS engine. It was obvious to me we need to get the > noise behind us. I have never seen it done, but I am putting my exhaust > under the engine and out the back. I realize it takes a custom made > exhaust system, but think it will be worth it. This also eliminates the > huge amount of drag the muffler creates on top. It also, in my mind, > necessitated a custom fuel tank which can be firewalled from the muffler > heat and fire potential. Mind you, this is still in the developmental > process. Included are a few pictures showing the oil cooler and oil > reservoir up front where they need to be. You will see a substitute > wing root profile used for reference purposes during fabrication and > spacing. Eventually the whole gap seal area will have a light one piece > removable fiberglass airfoil covering with an air intake opening > channeled to the oil cooler. In the winter the oil cooler and oil tank > can be used as a cabin heat source. > Andy > WN31 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: frank goodnight > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 4:09 AM > Subject: Kolb-List: noise > > > Hi Kolbers, > Has anyone out there ever tried to kill some of the noise on a > firestar 2 ? > I use a HKS engine with the up exhaust , and the noise is driving me > nuts. > got the noise canceling head set DR 6000 sometimes use it and ear > plugs > at the same time , still too loud . To talk to the tower I have to > pull power off > and stall the plane. that works ok if I'm the one that does the > calling , but if > someone wants to talk to me the problems start. If anyone has had any > success > with sound proofing ---batts blankets , whatever I sure would like to > know what they > did.Appreciate any help. > ' > Frank Goodnight > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:20:33 AM PST US > From: frank goodnight > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: noise > > HI Robert , > I do have a foam mic cover -- came with the head set-- Larry plane is pretty > much as > you saw it except for nose bowl and shorty windscreen. Am in the process of > putting > on a full windshield for the winter --it gets COLD-- here in north ARK. > Wife wants to drive down to Nauga Field then on to FLA to see friends. I would > > like to see all of you guys , will probably do it. > Frank Goodnight > > > ________________________________ > From: robert bean > Sent: Tue, November 1, 2011 7:40:15 AM > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: noise > > Have you tried a foam mic cover? > BB > do not archive > > > On 1, Nov 2011, at 7:09 AM, frank goodnight wrote: > > Hi Kolbers, >> Has anyone out there ever tried to kill some of the noise on a firestar 2 ? >> I use a HKS engine with the up exhaust , and the noise is driving me nuts. >> got the noise canceling head set DR 6000 sometimes use it and ear plugs >> at the same time , still too loud . To talk to the tower I have to pull power > >> off >> and stall the plane. that works ok if I'm the one that does the calling , but > >> if >> someone wants to talk to me the problems start. If anyone has had any success >> with sound proofing ---batts blankets , whatever I sure would like to know what > >> they >> did.Appreciate any help. >> ' >> Frank Goodnight >> >> >> href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com> >> href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List >> t href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:42:01 AM PST US > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: noise > From: "George Alexander" > > > > frank.goodnight(at)att.ne wrote: >> Hi Kolbers, >> Has anyone out there ever tried to kill some of the noise on a firestar 2 ? >> I use a HKS engine with the up exhaust , and the noise is driving me nuts. >> got the noise canceling head set DR 6000 sometimes use it and ear plugs >> at the same time , still too loud . >> >> - SNIP - >> Frank Goodnight >> > > > You may want to be sure that your headset has good cups/seals and fits snug. Even > wearing glasses..... the ear piece will open the seal enough to let lots of > noise in. > > I use the DRE 6000 put into a Comtronics shell/helmet. Snugging up chin strap > gives a tight seal (that Tupperware would be envious of). My FS II is a standard > configuration with a R503 DCDI; 3.47 C Box and a Powerfin 3 prop. > > -------- > George Alexander > FS II R503 N709FS > http://www.oh2fly.net > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356483#356483 > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:08:38 AM PST US > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: noise > From: Rick Neilsen > > Frank > > This is a issue I have been trying to fix for some time. I currently wear > Sony noise reducing ear buds under noise canceling head sets. This solution > works but I would like better. I have tried different mufflers and a bunch > of noise dampening insulation with only limited success. I have had a > number of different engines and engine mounts and found that one particular > mount that had real soft mounting bushings/vibration dampers had the lowest > pilot noise levels by far. My current engine mount needs softer bushings to > reduce the noise producing vibrations being transferred to the air frame. I > drilled four 1/8 inch holes in one bushing last spring and noticed some > improvement and no ill effects on the bushing. I have a line on softer > bushings from Lord Mounts but haven't called yet. I also noticed that John > H has his fuel tank mounted high in the cage between between people and the > engine and that seemed to make things much quieter than other 912 powered > MKIIIs. > > Rick Neilsen > Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC > > On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Andy and Sheila Slinkard < > andysheila@eltopia.com> wrote: > >> ** >> Frank, >> This problem concerned me from the start with construction of my Firestar >> II with HKS engine. It was obvious to me we need to get the noise behind >> us. I have never seen it done, but I am putting my exhaust under the >> engine and out the back. I realize it takes a custom made exhaust system, >> but think it will be worth it. This also eliminates the huge amount of >> drag the muffler creates on top. It also, in my mind, necessitated a >> custom fuel tank which can be firewalled from the muffler heat and fire >> potential. Mind you, this is still in the developmental process. Included >> are a few pictures showing the oil cooler and oil reservoir up front where >> they need to be. You will see a substitute wing root profile used for >> reference purposes during fabrication and spacing. Eventually the whole >> gap seal area will have a light one piece removable fiberglass airfoil >> covering with an air intake opening channeled to the oil cooler. In the >> winter the oil cooler and oil tank can be used as a cabin heat source. >> Andy >> WN31 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* frank goodnight >> *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com >> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2011 4:09 AM >> *Subject:* Kolb-List: noise >> >> Hi Kolbers, >> Has anyone out there ever tried to kill some of the noise on a firestar 2 >> ? >> I use a HKS engine with the up exhaust , and the noise is driving me nuts. >> got the noise canceling head set DR 6000 sometimes use it and ear plugs >> at the same time , still too loud . To talk to the tower I have to pull >> power off >> and stall the plane. that works ok if I'm the one that does the calling , >> but if >> someone wants to talk to me the problems start. If anyone has had any >> success >> with sound proofing ---batts blankets , whatever I sure would like to know >> what they >> did.Appreciate any help. >> ' >> Frank Goodnight >> >> * >> >> >> href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com >> href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com >> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List >> >> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c >> * >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 04:20:10 PM PST US > From: gliderx5@comcast.net > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: noise > > Frank > > I had problems transmitting from my Titan Tornado, but I could hear just fine. > The Tornado with a 503 is louder than my old MKII was. The issue I had was solved > with a remote push to talk switch. I use an Icom A6 and there is a bug in > the radio. If you use a headset with the radio, and use the transmit switch on > the side of the radio, the mic on the radio itself is activated, not the one > on the headset. To activate the headset mic I had to attach a remote PTT. Worked > great once I did that. Also worked great when hooked up to an intercom for > some reason. May not be the problem that you are having, but something to be aware > of if using an A6. > > Malcolm > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "frank goodnight" > Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2011 7:09:55 AM > Subject: Kolb-List: noise > > > Hi Kolbers, > Has anyone out there ever tried to kill some of the noise on a firestar 2 ? > I use a HKS engine with the up exhaust , and the noise is driving me nuts. > got the noise canceling head set DR 6000 sometimes use it and ear plugs > at the same time , still too loud . To talk to the tower I have to pull power off > > and stall the plane. that works ok if I'm the one that does the calling , but if > > someone wants to talk to me the problems start. If anyone has had any success > with sound proofing ---batts blankets , whatever I sure would like to know what > they > did.Appreciate any help. > ' > Frank Goodnight > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:35:07 PM PST US > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: noise > From: "Richard Pike" > > > Andy - the pictures you have posted have files sizes of over 1 mb, and now the > thread (for those of us that read it on the internet and not email) has become > unreadable in the sense that it is more trouble than it's worth to scroll back > and forth to read what people write. > > There are lots of free picture resizers online that will knock the pictures down > to a more convenient size in the future. > > Thanks > > -------- > Richard Pike > Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org > Kingsport, TN 3TN0 > Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. > > Hebrews 11:1 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356609#356609 > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:04:12 PM PST US > Subject: Kolb-List: Every Hangar should have one > From: "Dennis Thate" > > > A local public school was demolished by the wreaking ball. I managed to salvage > the only steel fire door in it's basement. Makes for a very secure 'walk-in door.' > > -------- > Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents > the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern > > These flying machines are just a fad and will never catch on Unknown > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356612#356612 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/seel_fire_door_519.jpg > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:04:37 PM PST US > From: David Kulp > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: GPS in FireFly > > > Hi Don, > > Was out of power and internet for a few days since that incredible 10" > OCTOBER! snowfall. But I'm back now. > > My Zumo needs a cradle with about 20 pins, so a universal won't work. I > presently have the Zumo and cradle attached to the instrument panel with > the RAM ball and socket setup you described, but my instrument panel is > down around my shins, so it's hard to see smaller detail. I also have a > RAM suction cup that uses the same ball and socket and a couple on the > list said they work fine, so I'm going to take it up (I hope tomorrow) > and move the GPS from the inst. panel to the windshield above and behind > the throttle. It is stays on I'm in business. > > Thanks for the tips, Don. Much appreciated. BTW, since it's probably > dear to your heart, since I bought a Beemer K1200LT I put my Honda > ST1100 on the block. Just sold it today for $2,250. Not too bad for 10 > years and 129K miles, right? Of course it really shines in your > department; I topped off the oil for the buyer and in the 1,400 miles > since the oil change it was only down .3 qt. That V4 is a great engine, > and with the D&D exhaust it sounds terrific, too. > > Dave > > On 10/31/2011 9:55 PM, Don G wrote: >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don G" >> >> Dave, >> I have a RAM mounted garmin in my KitFox, and I am sure a similiar mount would > work in the Fly'...it extends the device about 5 inches toward you when in > the straight position, and the RAM system is secure as you can get. I have just > recently seen several universal RAM attachments at a trade show and I am pretty > certain they have one that would fit your GPS...they look like a sort of > spider legged clap deal that binds the device from the sides. this attackment > , coupled with the ball and socket RAM mount would easily bolt to the panel. >> >> -------- >> Don G. >> Central Illinois >> Kitfox IV Speedster >> Luscombe 8A >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356466#356466 >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:06:52 PM PST US > From: "Andy and Sheila Slinkard" > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: noise > > > Just double click on the attachment for a smaller version. The larger size > gives better detail. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Pike" > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 7:32 PM > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: noise > > >> >> Andy - the pictures you have posted have files sizes of over 1 mb, and now >> the thread (for those of us that read it on the internet and not email) >> has become unreadable in the sense that it is more trouble than it's worth >> to scroll back and forth to read what people write. >> >> There are lots of free picture resizers online that will knock the >> pictures down to a more convenient size in the future. >> >> Thanks >> >> -------- >> Richard Pike >> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) >> richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org >> Kingsport, TN 3TN0 >> Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not >> seen. >> Hebrews 11:1 >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356609#356609 >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:13:41 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: GPS in FireFly From: "Don G" It is amazing what resale is on a high mileage ST isnt it? congrats......just a shame we cant adapt that V-4 engine to a aircraft!...(I have given it an awful lot of thought!)...maybe the best engine on the planet! -------- Don G. Central Illinois Kitfox IV Speedster Luscombe 8A Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356624#356624 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:01:50 AM PST US From: McCarthy Tom Subject: Re: Kolb-List: noise This is how I addressed the muffler issue with the HKS on my Slingshot. For the Tractor enthusiasts out there, I found the best muffler that fit the application was IH Farmall A muffler. It is light weight and short, and had the correct input diameter. It also has adequate back pressure and everyone tells me it sounds very good from the ground. I installed a heat shield between it and the cockpit, which never even gets warm. It is still relatively loud in the cockpit, but just a set of noise canceling headphones makes for easy communication and very easy on the ears for long flights. It is much quieter than my original Firestar with a Rotax 377, which requires earplugs and noise canceling headset. I am sending a picture, but not sure if it will post to the list, never sent one before. If not, just send me a PM, and I will send it direct. Tom McCarthy ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:39:02 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: noise Subject: Re: Kolb-List: noise This is how I addressed the muffler issue with the HKS on my Slingshot. Folks: A simple test to determine what is producing the noise on your Kolb is find a tractor aircraft with the same engine and prop your are flying on your Kolb. Have someone fly the Kolb overhead followed by the tractor configured aircraft. In my case, I listened to a RANS S7 powered by a 912ULS and 3 blade Warp Drive Prop last Saturday morning. No comparison between the noise my MKIII generates and the RANS. Other tractor aircraft with the 912UKLS that are extremely quiet compared to a Kolb are the Highlander and the old Kolb Flyer (Pelican), both in and out of the cockpit. If you have a chance, listen to a Lake Amphibian sometime. It is a pusher, and it is also noisy. I'd like a nice quiet cockpit, but I guess I am hooked on Kolbs, and will accept the noise with the performance. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:43:33 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: FW: Kolb-List: noise I'd like a nice quiet cockpit, but I guess I am hooked on Kolbs, and will accept the noise with the performance. john h Sorry, Folks: Forgot to include my point, above. I believe the prop is the primary noise generator on pusher aircraft. My hearing is so poor I cannot understand the spoken word on the radio without an ANR headset and the volume turned up max. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:52:10 AM PST US From: "Andy and Sheila Slinkard" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: noise Hey Man, I like it! Send more pictures. Good ole farmer ingenuity, "if man made it, it can be improved". That muffler must have been found strolling through the bone yard. Many a good ideas originate there. Thanks for posting. Andy WN31 ----- Original Message ----- From: "McCarthy Tom" Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 5:55 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: noise This is how I addressed the muffler issue with the HKS on my Slingshot. For the Tractor enthusiasts out there, I found the best muffler that fit the application was IH Farmall A muffler. It is light weight and short, and had the correct input diameter. It also has adequate back pressure and everyone tells me it sounds very good from the ground. I installed a heat shield between it and the cockpit, which never even gets warm. It is still relatively loud in the cockpit, but just a set of noise canceling headphones makes for easy communication and very easy on the ears for long flights. It is much quieter than my original Firestar with a Rotax 377, which requires earplugs and noise canceling headset. I am sending a picture, but not sure if it will post to the list, never sent one before. If not, just send me a PM, and I will send it direct. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Tom McCarthy ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:29:56 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: noise From: "Richard Pike" aslink wrote: > Just double click on the attachment for a smaller version. The larger size > gives better detail. > --- What browser are you using? Neither Firefox, Internet Explorer, Safari, or Opera will do that, although if you hold down the Ctrl button and tap either the - or + keys, you can make the whole page larger or smaller. Of course, then the print is too small to read. It is not necessary to use enormous pictures to be able to see something clearly, but it does require the reader to take the scroll bar and drag it back and forth, back and forth... That is my point. Reading such posts are more trouble than they are worth. Also, consider what Matt Dralle puts in the guidelines:"- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and responses." I would add that using pictures over 1 megabyte instead of resized pictures of just a few kilobytes would certainly fall into that category. If you are determined to use inconveniently sized pictures, then at least put "Do not archive" at the end of your posts -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356638#356638 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:49:04 AM PST US From: chris davis Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: GPS in FireFly Don ,Hasnt someone already done that?=0A=0A=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs =0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly=0A=0A=0A____________ ____________________=0AFrom: Don G =0ATo: kolb-list@ matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, November 2, 2011 8:11 AM=0ASubject: Kolb-L he@one-eleven.net>=0A=0AIt is amazing what resale is on a high mileage ST i snt it? congrats......just a shame we cant adapt that V-4 engine to a aircr aft!...(I have given it an awful lot of thought!)...maybe the best engine o n the planet!=0A=0A--------=0ADon G.=0ACentral Illinois=0AKitfox IV Speedst er=0ALuscombe 8A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://for ==================== ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:20:59 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: GPS in FireFly From: "Richard Pike" undoctor wrote: > Hi Don, > > > I put my Honda > ST1100 on the block. Just sold it today for $2,250. Not too bad for 10 > years and 129K miles, right? Of course it really shines in your > department; I topped off the oil for the buyer and in the 1,400 miles > since the oil change it was only down .3 qt. That V4 is a great engine, > and with the D&D exhaust it sounds terrific, too. > > Dave > [/quote] ARRGGHHH!!!!! Why didn't you put it up on the list first? I would have beat your door down for it! Sigh.... -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356656#356656 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:16:50 PM PST US From: frank goodnight Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: noise Hi, would like to thank everyone that shared coments about the noise our planes make. Looks like a lot of people share my dislike of a noisy cockpit.I'll try some of your ideas. Frank Goodnight Firestar 2 HKS ________________________________ From: Richard Pike Sent: Tue, November 1, 2011 9:32:46 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: noise Andy - the pictures you have posted have files sizes of over 1 mb, and now the thread (for those of us that read it on the internet and not email) has become unreadable in the sense that it is more trouble than it's worth to scroll back and forth to read what people write. There are lots of free picture resizers online that will knock the pictures down to a more convenient size in the future. Thanks -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356609#356609 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:57:05 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Picture size From: Richard Girard We have had this discussion more than a few times, here. I don't understand why people want to post large pictures and then lecture the rest of the forum about how to deal with them. There are many free photo editors available on the web. I've been using Irfanview for 8 years and it does everything I've ever wanted to do. If you don't have a photo editor you can get Irfanview here: http://www.irfanview.com/ Whatever photo editor you use, please take the time to figure out what reduction setting works with the size pictures from your camera to produce an image that just fits the screen of your computer. As an example, my Fuji Finepix S1500 is set to record pictures at 3648 X 2432. Using Irfanview, I know from much practice that reducing the image to 37% of that size produces a picture that is 1350 X 900. That size image fills the screen on both my laptop and my desktop screens without generating slide bars on the edges. Reducing a picture to that size changes it from 2.15 Mbytes to 700 to 900 Kbytes, depending on the picture contents. Aircraft pictures with lots of blue sky tend toward the smaller, those of my grandkids with busy backgrounds are larger. In Irfanview the effort to do this reduction is four keystrokes (cntl R, 37, and enter) and one more to save. It could be even less if I was to accept some of the stock sizes offered like 800 X 600, but I like to get a full size, screen-filling picture. Another way to reduce image size is to crop out the details relevant to the message. In Irfanview this too is simple. Cntl Y is "crop and leave selection". It allows you to draw a box around the area you want to keep and when you hit return everything outside will be gone. The selection will be expanded to either its full size, if smaller than the screen, or to fill the screen if larger. You might also consider the purpose of the picture. For a "this is me and my airplane at Blivet Airport" picture, an image the size of a business card is okay. The same size picture for a "this is how I mounted my new muffler bearing" image is useless. So, how 'bout it? None of this is rocket science and it's free to do with just a little effort. A sender can make a few keystrokes and produce an image that works for 99% of the readers. Why not just use a little consideration for the group rather than lecturing on how to reduce an image once it's posted. Rick Girard -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:20:57 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Headsets & hearing loss From: "Richard Pike" While getting ready to go fly this evening, I thought about what John said earlier: "My hearing is so poor I cannot understand the spoken word on the radio without an ANR headset and the volume turned up max." I am dealing with tinnitus caused by a rogue antibiotic (If anybody suggests you should take Avelox - the side effects are horrendous) and loud noises aggravates it. Don't know how this would compare with a good ANR headset, but it cuts the noise down a huge amount over a normal headset and makes it really easy to hear what other people are saying. Here's how to make yours for about $10 and 45 minutes time: Pick up some earbuds at your favorite big box store or drugstore, and glue the most comfortable silicon earpieces in place. if you don't glue them in place, they will come off the earbuds, fall out of your ear, and then into the recesses of your Kolb. Guess how I know this? Cut the earbuds off their twinned wire so that you have about 7" of wire coming off the earbud. Separate a small amount of the two wires from the insulation. Pull off the ear pad cover and pull out the foam inside. Unscrew the speaker and move it so you can get to the speaker wires. Unsolder one of the wires and splice the earbud in so that it is in series. If necessary, dab some silicone on to insulate things. Do the other side the same way and then put everything all back together. Just let the lip of the ear pad push the wire against the headset, it won't hurt it. Put the headset on and then lift one side at a time from your head and poke the earbud in your ear so it feels comfortable. It is much quieter than before, and hearing other airplanes and ATC seems a lot better for me. Your results may vary, and if you don't like it, you only spent $10 and 45 minutes. Oh yeah, and this picture was resized with Microsoft's Image Resizer. -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356678#356678 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/earbuds_352.jpg ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:22:41 PM PST US From: David Kulp Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: GPS in FireFly Wish I'd have known, Richard. Sorry!!! On 11/2/2011 2:18 PM, Richard Pike wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Pike" > > > undoctor wrote: >> Hi Don, >> >> >> I put my Honda >> ST1100 on the block. Just sold it today for $2,250. Not too bad for 10 >> years and 129K miles, right? Of course it really shines in your >> department; I topped off the oil for the buyer and in the 1,400 miles >> since the oil change it was only down .3 qt. That V4 is a great engine, >> and with the D&D exhaust it sounds terrific, too. >> >> Dave >> > [/quote] > > ARRGGHHH!!!!! Why didn't you put it up on the list first? I would have beat your door down for it! Sigh.... > > -------- > Richard Pike > Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org > Kingsport, TN 3TN0 > Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. > Hebrews 11:1 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356656#356656 > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:32:12 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Headsets & hearing loss From: "SS568" Richard, What is an ear bud. Is it found in the garden dept.? :D David d. -------- Kolb Mark IIIX 582 Blue head Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356691#356691 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 05:38:29 PM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Kolb-List: Nov 1 Yesterday I ferried the MkIII over to a neighbor's fine facility. Last flight of the year but it was a fantastic day. My new barn won't have a concrete floor until next summer and I don't like rodents nesting in the plane. Although I was too busy to get in much flying this was a good year with zero maintenance issues. I didn't take much notice of the noise level.. BB MkIII, suzuki ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 05:59:51 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb MKIII video From: Eugene Zimmerman Richard, I'm using Safari version 5.5.1.1 Gene On Nov 1, 2011, at 12:40 AM, Richard Pike wrote: > > > Eugene Zimmerman wrote: >> Richard,Plain blue page with October 25, 2011 at the top is all I get? >> No video. Do I need a particular plugin for my browser? >> Gene >> > > > I wouldn't think so, it is an .mpeg-4 video, it ought to open in Windows Media Player. If you are using Firefox, try Internet Explorer, or Safari? > > I set up our MESF club website from my church webpage, and we don't have the bandwidth that Youtube or Vimeo does - give it a while to load and see what happens? > > If that don't work - I dunno man, I know some things, but I ain't no guru... > > -------- > Richard Pike > Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org > Kingsport, TN 3TN0 > Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. > Hebrews 11:1 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356472#356472 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 07:03:45 PM PST US From: "Andy and Sheila Slinkard" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Picture size My apology, Richard. I was trying to assist my husband and forgot to resize the photos before sending. Since I could not recall and correct my sent e-mail I simply made a suggestion (not a lecture) on how to see the pictures. I would never deliberately infuriate you or anyone. Most Kolbers are kind and helpful and we appreciate all of the information and suggestions whether we use them or not. Once again, I apologize for any inconvenience to you and others. Sincerely, Sheila Slinkard ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Girard To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Picture size We have had this discussion more than a few times, here. I don't understand why people want to post large pictures and then lecture the rest of the forum about how to deal with them. There are many free photo editors available on the web. I've been using Irfanview for 8 years and it does everything I've ever wanted to do. If you don't have a photo editor you can get Irfanview here: http://www.irfanview.com/ Whatever photo editor you use, please take the time to figure out what reduction setting works with the size pictures from your camera to produce an image that just fits the screen of your computer. As an example, my Fuji Finepix S1500 is set to record pictures at 3648 X 2432. Using Irfanview, I know from much practice that reducing the image to 37% of that size produces a picture that is 1350 X 900. That size image fills the screen on both my laptop and my desktop screens without generating slide bars on the edges. Reducing a picture to that size changes it from 2.15 Mbytes to 700 to 900 Kbytes, depending on the picture contents. Aircraft pictures with lots of blue sky tend toward the smaller, those of my grandkids with busy backgrounds are larger. In Irfanview the effort to do this reduction is four keystrokes (cntl R, 37, and enter) and one more to save. It could be even less if I was to accept some of the stock sizes offered like 800 X 600, but I like to get a full size, screen-filling picture. Another way to reduce image size is to crop out the details relevant to the message. In Irfanview this too is simple. Cntl Y is "crop and leave selection". It allows you to draw a box around the area you want to keep and when you hit return everything outside will be gone. The selection will be expanded to either its full size, if smaller than the screen, or to fill the screen if larger. You might also consider the purpose of the picture. For a "this is me and my airplane at Blivet Airport" picture, an image the size of a business card is okay. The same size picture for a "this is how I mounted my new muffler bearing" image is useless. So, how 'bout it? None of this is rocket science and it's free to do with just a little effort. A sender can make a few keystrokes and produce an image that works for 99% of the readers. Why not just use a little consideration for the group rather than lecturing on how to reduce an image once it's posted. Rick Girard -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 07:20:19 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Headsets & hearing loss From: "Richard Pike" SS568 wrote: > Richard, > What is an ear bud. Is it found in the garden dept.? :D > David d. Not in November. Sigh... -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356702#356702 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 07:27:07 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb MKIII video From: "Richard Pike" Eugene Zimmerman wrote: > Richard, > I'm using Safari version 5.5.1.1 > Gene > Well - I tried opening it in my older version of Safari - 5.0.5 - and it wouldn't open but asked if I wanted to install an update. I told it yes, and then it opened the video normally. Are you using a Mac? -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356703#356703 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 07:33:10 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Picture size From: "Richard Pike" [quote="aslink"]My apology, Richard. I was trying to assist my husband and forgot to resize the photos before sending. Since I could not recall and correct my sent e-mail I simply made a suggestion (not a lecture) on how to see the pictures. I would never deliberately infuriate you or anyone. Most Kolbers are kind and helpful and we appreciate all of the information and suggestions whether we use them or not. Once again, I apologize for any inconvenience to you and others. Sincerely, Sheila Slinkard > --- Not infuriated at all, not even mad, and you are being very gracious - thank you! It is just that we have been down this road more than a few times over the years and I was hoping not to go down it again. Shalom and Blessings on you. -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356704#356704 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 07:49:58 PM PST US From: frank goodnight Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Headsets & hearing loss Richard, Seems like an easy comonsense way to solve a big problem. I plan on adding earbuds to my headset next time I go to the airport. Thanks for the info and pics. Frank Goodnight ________________________________ From: Richard Pike Sent: Wed, November 2, 2011 6:18:18 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Headsets & hearing loss While getting ready to go fly this evening, I thought about what John said earlier: "My hearing is so poor I cannot understand the spoken word on the radio without an ANR headset and the volume turned up max." I am dealing with tinnitus caused by a rogue antibiotic (If anybody suggests you should take Avelox - the side effects are horrendous) and loud noises aggravates it. Don't know how this would compare with a good ANR headset, but it cuts the noise down a huge amount over a normal headset and makes it really easy to hear what other people are saying. Here's how to make yours for about $10 and 45 minutes time: Pick up some earbuds at your favorite big box store or drugstore, and glue the most comfortable silicon earpieces in place. if you don't glue them in place, they will come off the earbuds, fall out of your ear, and then into the recesses of your Kolb. Guess how I know this? Cut the earbuds off their twinned wire so that you have about 7" of wire coming off the earbud. Separate a small amount of the two wires from the insulation. Pull off the ear pad cover and pull out the foam inside. Unscrew the speaker and move it so you can get to the speaker wires. Unsolder one of the wires and splice the earbud in so that it is in series. If necessary, dab some silicone on to insulate things. Do the other side the same way and then put everything all back together. Just let the lip of the ear pad push the wire against the headset, it won't hurt it. Put the headset on and then lift one side at a time from your head and poke the earbud in your ear so it feels comfortable. It is much quieter than before, and hearing other airplanes and ATC seems a lot better for me. Your results may vary, and if you don't like it, you only spent $10 and 45 minutes. Oh yeah, and this picture was resized with Microsoft's Image Resizer. -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 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