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1. 04:59 AM - Re: Mz 201 (Pat Ladd)
2. 05:59 AM - Re: Mz 201 (John Hauck)
3. 06:18 AM - Re: Mz 201 (william sullivan)
4. 06:38 AM - Premeasuring oil for flights (Phil)
5. 06:51 AM - Re: Mz 201 (Larry Cottrell)
6. 06:58 AM - Re: Mz 201 (william sullivan)
7. 07:05 AM - Re: Mz 201 (Thumper)
8. 07:11 AM - Re: Premeasuring oil for flights (SS568)
9. 07:25 AM - Re: Premeasuring oil for flights (John Hauck)
10. 08:51 AM - Re: Mz 201 (Larry Cottrell)
11. 08:52 AM - Re: Mz 201 (Larry Cottrell)
12. 08:53 AM - Re: Mz 201 (Larry Cottrell)
13. 08:54 AM - Re: Mz 201 (Larry Cottrell)
14. 09:54 AM - Re: Re: Mz 201 (Jack B. Hart)
15. 04:45 PM - Re: Premeasuring oil for flights (olendorf)
16. 05:42 PM - Re: Re: Premeasuring oil for flights (Dana Hague)
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John,
Although the size of the font is OK your posts are double spaced and
still too wide for the screen.
Everyone else's posts are OK.
Pat
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John,
Although the size of the font is OK your posts are
double spaced and still too wide for the screen.
Everyone else's posts are OK.
Pat
Patrick/Kolbers:
Glad I got one thing right, the font.
I am using "plain text", automatic word wrap with
60 space lines.
My email is Outlook 2007, with current updates.
Other than that, I have checked all my "stuff" and
can find no reason that my email program would be
"double spaced and too wide for the screen."
Do you have any suggestions for me to correct this
situation?
john h
mkIll
Titus, Alabama
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- John- I think it's the Matronics computer.- When I enter something, m
y font stays the same.- The line length changes when I get it back.- Re
gular e-mails from me to others don't do it.- Maybe Matt knows why.
do not archive
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------------------- Bill Sullivan
--- On Tue, 11/22/11, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Mz 201
- - John,Although the size of the font is OK your posts are double spac
ed and still too wide for the screen.Everyone else's posts are OK.-Pat
- -Patrick/Kolbers: -Glad I got one thing right, the font. -I am us
ing "plain text", automatic word wrap with 60 space lines. -My email is O
utlook 2007, with current updates. -Other than that, I have checked all m
y "stuff" and can find no reason that my email program would be "double spa
ced and too wide for the screen." -Do you have any suggestions for me to
correct this situation? -john hmkIllTitus, Alabama - - - =0A=0A=0A
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Subject: | Premeasuring oil for flights |
At a 50:1 ratio, five gallons of gas requires 12.8 fl oz of two-stroke oil.
Therefore, here's my plan for in-trip (as well as pre-trip) refueling.
Buy a six-pack of plastic 16.9 fl oz softdrink bottles. Drink contents. Cle
an and dry bottles thoroughly. Remove labels. Mark gradients very carefully
onto the outside surface of the bottles; preferably in one-fl-oz graduatio
ns (but essentially, in 1/8th graduations in the case you decide to top off
with gas, described next). Measure out exactly 12.8 fl oz into each bottle
and top off with one or two fl oz of gas. Throw bottles into your gunny sa
ck before flying.
Now, if you have decided to top off each bottle with one-to-two fl oz of ga
s, then the gradients you mark on the sides of the bottles should allow for
that. Topping off each bottle does two things:-1) it reduces the viscosi
ty of the oil so it pours easily, and 2) it hopefully enhances the premixin
g of the oil with the rest of the gas in your tank.
Then, when you put five gallons of gas into your tank, just empty one of th
ese bottles into it and you're good to go. If you just partially top off yo
ur tank, then pour in only the quantity from one of the bottles that makes
up the 50:1 ratio (hopefully both your fuel tank and your bottles are marke
d well and accurately, and you old folk brought your calculator with you).
Comments?
Phil H.
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Both yours and John's went out of sight with the same problem. John says
that his is set to Plain text. I checked the tool bar on this message
and there is a tool called "format" on this message, and it is set to
"Rich Text (html). The funny part about it is that this is the only
message in all of my email that gives me the option of changing the
"Format" on the tool bar.
for what it is worth,
Larry
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From: william sullivan
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:15 AM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Mz 201
John- I think it's the Matronics computer. When I enter
something, my font stays the same. The line length changes when I get
it back. Regular e-mails from me to others don't do it. Maybe Matt
knows why.
do not archive
Bill Sullivan
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From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Mz 201
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, November 22, 2011, 8:56 AM
John,
Although the size of the font is OK your posts are double
spaced and still too wide for the screen.
Everyone else's posts are OK.
Pat
Patrick/Kolbers: Glad I got one thing right, the font. I am using
"plain text", automatic word wrap with 60 space lines. My email is
Outlook 2007, with current updates. Other than that, I have checked all
my "stuff" and can find no reason that my email program would be "double
spaced and too wide for the screen." Do you have any suggestions for me
to correct this situation? john hmkIllTitus, Alabama
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- Larry- Yours came through too wide, too.
do nt archive
--- On Tue, 11/22/11, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mz 201
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do not =0A archive
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I believe your choice of the MZ201/2 will be a good one. My only reservation is
the single diaphram carb. The MZ201 is just the MZ202 with a different intake
manifold and Tillotson carb plus limit the rpm to 4800rpm. I used many of those
carbs over the years and don't consider them reliable enough to fly with.
Too much fiddling required as per Jack Harts blog, thanks Jack. If you could
make a single carb manifold and use a Bing or Mikuni float style then you would
be safer to fly. Either version you will have RPM options since you can limit
it to 45hp or let it spin up to 60hp with nothing breaking. I want to install
that engine on a Firestar II in the future (once I get my Mark III sold).
It is not much heavier with the twin carb arrangement maybe you should think
about that. I might know someone who has a manifold for the dual carb you could
buy without having to pay for new. The MZ201 is just a de-rated 202. I like
the fan cooling that doesn't use a belt, reed valve induction for good crankcase
stuffing (simpler than rotary valve) and the MZ202 has almost the same HP
as a Rotax 583 but weights 43# less because lighter block and no water cooling
weight. Prices are less too. I would guess that you will like the MZ201 or
202 for thrust. I did talk to a fellow once who had the 201 on a twinstar and
said it flew great. He did not like the carb much though and was working on
inflight mixture control. His brakes would not hold it on the ground so he
could not do the required full throttle run up required each time to set the carb
needles as recommended. I think Leon at compactradialengines.com/ can give
you his name also. PS how much lighter was it with only the single ignition
over dual ignition? I like the thought of dual ignition with todays solid state
circuits. In the old points 447 it usually would not just quit, it would just
run bad and still get you home, most of the time solid state just quits with
no warning.
Dennis Long
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Oakland TN
2001 Kolb Mark IIIC
110+ hours since March 2011
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Subject: | Re: Premeasuring oil for flights |
Phactor,
I would be Leary of using drink bottles (cheap plastic) for the storage of petroleum
products. Many drink and water bottles are made to dissolve in a few months.
David d.
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Subject: | Premeasuring oil for flights |
Buy a six-pack of plastic 16.9 fl oz softdrink
bottles. Drink contents. Clean and dry bottles
thoroughly. Remove labels. Mark gradients very
carefully onto the outside surface of the bottles;
preferably in one-fl-oz graduations (but
essentially, in 1/8th graduations in the case you
decide to top off with gas, described next).
Measure out exactly 12.8 fl oz into each bottle
and top off with one or two fl oz of gas. Throw
bottles into your gunny sack before flying.
Comments?
Phil H.
Phil H/Kolbers:
Whatever works for you should be just fine.
I did a lot of long two stroke cross country
flights in my US, FS, and MKIII. Remember loading
12 qts of Pennzoil for air cooled engines in the
FS, because that oil was impossible to find, on
the road, back in the 1980's.
Normally, I estimated how much fuel I was going to
add to the tank, then poured in the oil right from
the original 1 qt container. Topped off with
fuel. Then rocked the aircraft fore and aft to
mix the oil. Once at Norwich, NY, I forgot to
rock the FS. Took off and started losing power.
Figured out what was wrong, pulled the enricher
wide open and regained enough power to land. If I
had not pulled the enricher, the engine would have
died before I got back on the ground. My float
bowl and lines were mostly Pennzoil.
Two stroke oil is already cut with a solvent, if I
am remembering correctly.
I believe engine manufacturers take into
consideration the user will not be able to mix
fuel and oil precisely, giving us some leeway on
each side of 50 to 1.
Keep it simple.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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OK, this time I clicked "plain text" as it came through on HTML
Larry
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----- Original Message -----
From: william sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mz 201
Larry- Yours came through too wide, too.
do nt archive
--- On Tue, 11/22/11, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mz 201
Both yours and John's went out of sight with the same problem. John says
that his is set to Plain text. I checked the tool bar on this message and
there is a tool called "format" on this message, and it is set to "Rich Text
(html). The funny part about it is that this is the only message in all of
my email that gives me the option of changing the "Format" on the tool bar.
for what it is worth,
Larry
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----- Original Message -----
From: william sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:15 AM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Mz 201
John- I think it's the Matronics computer. When I enter something, my
font stays the same. The line length changes when I get it back. Regular
e-mails from me to others don't do it. Maybe Matt knows why.
do not archive
Bill Sullivan
--- On Tue, 11/22/11, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Mz 201
John,
Although the size of the font is OK your posts are double spaced and still
too wide for the screen.
Everyone else's posts are OK.
Pat
Patrick/Kolbers:
Glad I got one thing right, the font.
I am using "plain text", automatic word wrap with 60 space lines.
My email is Outlook 2007, with current updates.
Other than that, I have checked all my "stuff" and can find no reason that
my email program would be "double spaced and too wide for the screen."
Do you have any suggestions for me
to correct this situation?
john h
mkIll
Titus, Alabama
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OK, this time I clicked "plain text" as it came through on HTML. I was
planning on sending it through then I realized that I had not typed enough
to wrap around. DUH? Then when I tried to send it on, every thing from your
name to punctuation was questioned by spell checker. Beats me, you guy's are
going to have to figured it out.
Larry
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----- Original Message -----
From: william sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mz 201
Larry- Yours came through too wide, too.
do nt archive
--- On Tue, 11/22/11, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mz 201
Both yours and John's went out of sight with the same problem. John says
that his is set to Plain text. I checked the tool bar on this message and
there is a tool called "format" on this message, and it is set to "Rich Text
(html). The funny part about it is that this is the only message in all of
my email that gives me the option of changing the "Format" on the tool bar.
for what it is worth,
Larry
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includes my email address.
----- Original Message -----
From: william sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:15 AM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Mz 201
John- I think it's the Matronics computer. When I enter something, my
font stays the same. The line length changes when I get it back. Regular
e-mails from me to others don't do it. Maybe Matt knows why.
do not archive
Bill Sullivan
--- On Tue, 11/22/11, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Mz 201
John,
Although the size of the font is OK your posts are double spaced and still
too wide for the screen.
Everyone else's posts are OK.
Pat
Patrick/Kolbers:
Glad I got one thing right, the font.
I am using "plain text", automatic word wrap with 60 space lines.
My email is Outlook 2007, with current updates.
Other than that, I have checked all my "stuff" and can find no reason that
my email program would be "double spaced and too wide for the screen."
Do you have any suggestions for me
to correct this situation?
john h
mkIll
Titus, Alabama
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OK, this time I clicked "plain text" as it came through on HTML. I was
planning on sending it through then I realized that I had not typed enough
to wrap around. DUH? Then when I tried to send it on, every thing from your
name to punctuation was questioned by spell checker. Beats me, you guy's are
going to have to figured it out.
Larry
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----- Original Message -----
From: william sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mz 201
Larry- Yours came through too wide, too.
do nt archive
--- On Tue, 11/22/11, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mz 201
Both yours and John's went out of sight with the same problem. John says
that his is set to Plain text. I checked the tool bar on this message and
there is a tool called "format" on this message, and it is set to "Rich Text
(html). The funny part about it is that this is the only message in all of
my email that gives me the option of changing the "Format" on the tool bar.
for what it is worth,
Larry
Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which
includes my email address.
----- Original Message -----
From: william sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:15 AM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Mz 201
John- I think it's the Matronics computer. When I enter something, my
font stays the same. The line length changes when I get it back. Regular
e-mails from me to others don't do it. Maybe Matt knows why.
do not archive
Bill Sullivan
--- On Tue, 11/22/11, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Mz 201
John,
Although the size of the font is OK your posts are double spaced and still
too wide for the screen.
Everyone else's posts are OK.
Pat
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Glad I got one thing right, the font.
I am using "plain text", automatic word wrap with 60 space lines.
My email is Outlook 2007, with current updates.
Other than that, I have checked all my "stuff" and can find no reason that
my email program would be "double spaced and too wide for the screen."
Do you have any suggestions for me
to correct this situation?
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OK, this time I clicked "plain text" as it came through on HTML. I was
planning on sending it through then I realized that I had not typed enough
to wrap around. DUH? Then when I tried to send it on, every thing from your
name to punctuation was questioned by spell checker. Beats me, you guy's are
going to have to figured it out.
Larry
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From: william sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mz 201
Larry- Yours came through too wide, too.
do nt archive
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Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mz 201
Both yours and John's went out of sight with the same problem. John says
that his is set to Plain text. I checked the tool bar on this message and
there is a tool called "format" on this message, and it is set to "Rich Text
(html). The funny part about it is that this is the only message in all of
my email that gives me the option of changing the "Format" on the tool bar.
for what it is worth,
Larry
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----- Original Message -----
From: william sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:15 AM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Mz 201
John- I think it's the Matronics computer. When I enter something, my
font stays the same. The line length changes when I get it back. Regular
e-mails from me to others don't do it. Maybe Matt knows why.
do not archive
Bill Sullivan
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Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Mz 201
John,
Although the size of the font is OK your posts are double spaced and still
too wide for the screen.
Everyone else's posts are OK.
Pat
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Glad I got one thing right, the font.
I am using "plain text", automatic word wrap with 60 space lines.
My email is Outlook 2007, with current updates.
Other than that, I have checked all my "stuff" and can find no reason that
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Do you have any suggestions for me
to correct this situation?
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At 07:02 AM 11/22/11 -0800, you wrote:
>
>I believe your choice of the MZ201/2 will be a good one. My only
reservation is the single diaphram carb. The MZ201 is just the MZ202 with a
different intake manifold and Tillotson carb plus limit the rpm to 4800rpm.
I used many of those carbs over the years and don't consider them reliable
enough to fly with. Too much fiddling required as per Jack Harts blog,
thanks Jack. If you could make a single carb manifold and use a Bing or
Mikuni float style then you would be safer to fly.
>
......................
Dennis,
One of the things I discovered in adding air/fuel mixture controls to the
Bing and the Tillotson carburetors is that it seems to calm things down. By
that I mean one can set it and change AOA with no throttle change and the
EGT remains pretty much constant. I believe the reason for such good
results are due to the air pressure over the float bowl and under the
control diaphragm is held constant, where the non controlled vents are
subjected the pressure environment at the engine. In a pusher the air is
being sucked into the propeller and so the carburetor vents see different
pressures that are a combination of propeller/engine speed, relative wind,
and altitude. By connecting the vent to a tube and bringing it into the
cockpit area to a true static pressure port, the speed and relative wind
influence portions are removed. I wish I had thought of this with the
Rotax 447.
I had problems with the Tillotson, but after receiving good information for
initial setup, it seems to be quite stable. I like being able to prime it
and to draw fuel up to the carburetor with a simple push bulb. One must
balance out the low and high speed needles to maintain a flat EGT over the
throttle range. Once this is done, one can prime the engine and the engine
will start with the throttle closed. A huge plus for this carburetor is
that one does not have to open the carburetor to change jets and needles and
it comes with fuel pump built in.
The only real problem with the Tillotson carburetor is the same as with the
Bing, carburetor ice. I have fitted a stud heater to the bottom engine side
of the Tillotson to try and compensate for the problem. I have not had a
chance to check it out.
I have been fortunate in that I mounted the MZ 34 inverted so that the
carburetor needles can be accessed from the front. This allowed me to
attach extension tubes to the needles and to manipulate them with the engine
running and the FireFly tied down. It would be great if Tillotson would
build a mirror image carburetor so that the same could be said for an
upright engine.
At this point I will take the Tillotson over the Bing, but it is going to
take another season of flying to see it that holds true.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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Subject: | Re: Premeasuring oil for flights |
That idea sounds really inconvenient. You will be carrying fuel you don't need
and less oil that you might need. Since you have already marked gradients on
one of the bottles it is a simple matter to measure just the right amount of
oil and dump it in when you get gas. I wouldn't mark in 1 ounce gradients though,
I mark mine in gallons. Then you don't have to do the math. You fill up
and get 4 gallons then you add oil to the 4 gallon mark and dump it in. Can't
get any easier.
I used a Prestone antifreeze container to hold my 2 stroke oil for my long trips.
It's nice and slim for storage.
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Scott Olendorf
Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop
Schenectady, NY
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Subject: | Re: Premeasuring oil for flights |
At 07:43 PM 11/22/2011, olendorf wrote:
>
>That idea sounds really inconvenient. You will be carrying fuel you
>don't need and less oil that you might need. Since you have already
>marked gradients on one of the bottles it is a simple matter to measure
>just the right amount of oil and dump it in when you get gas. I wouldn't
>mark in 1 ounce gradients though, I mark mine in gallons. Then you don't
>have to do the math. You fill up and get 4 gallons then you add oil to the
>4 gallon mark and dump it in. Can't get any easier.
I use a large syringe, I think it's 250cc or so, with a label calibrated in
gallons at the appropriate mix ratio. Knowing approximately how much fuel
I'll need, I fill the syringe to that amount and squirt it into the tank as
I'm pumping the gas, repeat as necessary. I fill the syringe from a
Nalgene bottle of oil to into whose cap I've mounted a Luer fitting (the
standard syringe connection) and suck in the amount of oil I'll need.
At home I just premix in the can, of course.
-Dana
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