---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 11/22/11: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:59 AM - Re: Mz 201 (Pat Ladd) 2. 05:59 AM - Re: Mz 201 (John Hauck) 3. 06:18 AM - Re: Mz 201 (william sullivan) 4. 06:38 AM - Premeasuring oil for flights (Phil) 5. 06:51 AM - Re: Mz 201 (Larry Cottrell) 6. 06:58 AM - Re: Mz 201 (william sullivan) 7. 07:05 AM - Re: Mz 201 (Thumper) 8. 07:11 AM - Re: Premeasuring oil for flights (SS568) 9. 07:25 AM - Re: Premeasuring oil for flights (John Hauck) 10. 08:51 AM - Re: Mz 201 (Larry Cottrell) 11. 08:52 AM - Re: Mz 201 (Larry Cottrell) 12. 08:53 AM - Re: Mz 201 (Larry Cottrell) 13. 08:54 AM - Re: Mz 201 (Larry Cottrell) 14. 09:54 AM - Re: Re: Mz 201 (Jack B. Hart) 15. 04:45 PM - Re: Premeasuring oil for flights (olendorf) 16. 05:42 PM - Re: Re: Premeasuring oil for flights (Dana Hague) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:59:45 AM PST US From: "Pat Ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mz 201 John, Although the size of the font is OK your posts are double spaced and still too wide for the screen. Everyone else's posts are OK. Pat ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:59:21 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Mz 201 John, Although the size of the font is OK your posts are double spaced and still too wide for the screen. Everyone else's posts are OK. Pat Patrick/Kolbers: Glad I got one thing right, the font. I am using "plain text", automatic word wrap with 60 space lines. My email is Outlook 2007, with current updates. Other than that, I have checked all my "stuff" and can find no reason that my email program would be "double spaced and too wide for the screen." Do you have any suggestions for me to correct this situation? john h mkIll Titus, Alabama ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:18:01 AM PST US From: william sullivan Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Mz 201 - John- I think it's the Matronics computer.- When I enter something, m y font stays the same.- The line length changes when I get it back.- Re gular e-mails from me to others don't do it.- Maybe Matt knows why. do not archive ------------------------- ------------------- Bill Sullivan --- On Tue, 11/22/11, John Hauck wrote: From: John Hauck Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Mz 201 - - John,Although the size of the font is OK your posts are double spac ed and still too wide for the screen.Everyone else's posts are OK.-Pat - -Patrick/Kolbers: -Glad I got one thing right, the font. -I am us ing "plain text", automatic word wrap with 60 space lines. -My email is O utlook 2007, with current updates. -Other than that, I have checked all m y "stuff" and can find no reason that my email program would be "double spa ced and too wide for the screen." -Do you have any suggestions for me to correct this situation? -john hmkIllTitus, Alabama - - - =0A=0A=0A ======================0A=0A ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:38:18 AM PST US From: Phil Subject: Kolb-List: Premeasuring oil for flights At a 50:1 ratio, five gallons of gas requires 12.8 fl oz of two-stroke oil. Therefore, here's my plan for in-trip (as well as pre-trip) refueling. Buy a six-pack of plastic 16.9 fl oz softdrink bottles. Drink contents. Cle an and dry bottles thoroughly. Remove labels. Mark gradients very carefully onto the outside surface of the bottles; preferably in one-fl-oz graduatio ns (but essentially, in 1/8th graduations in the case you decide to top off with gas, described next). Measure out exactly 12.8 fl oz into each bottle and top off with one or two fl oz of gas. Throw bottles into your gunny sa ck before flying. Now, if you have decided to top off each bottle with one-to-two fl oz of ga s, then the gradients you mark on the sides of the bottles should allow for that. Topping off each bottle does two things:-1) it reduces the viscosi ty of the oil so it pours easily, and 2) it hopefully enhances the premixin g of the oil with the rest of the gas in your tank. Then, when you put five gallons of gas into your tank, just empty one of th ese bottles into it and you're good to go. If you just partially top off yo ur tank, then pour in only the quantity from one of the bottles that makes up the 50:1 ratio (hopefully both your fuel tank and your bottles are marke d well and accurately, and you old folk brought your calculator with you). Comments? Phil H. - ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:51:51 AM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mz 201 Both yours and John's went out of sight with the same problem. John says that his is set to Plain text. I checked the tool bar on this message and there is a tool called "format" on this message, and it is set to "Rich Text (html). The funny part about it is that this is the only message in all of my email that gives me the option of changing the "Format" on the tool bar. for what it is worth, Larry Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address. ----- Original Message ----- From: william sullivan To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:15 AM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Mz 201 John- I think it's the Matronics computer. When I enter something, my font stays the same. The line length changes when I get it back. Regular e-mails from me to others don't do it. Maybe Matt knows why. do not archive Bill Sullivan --- On Tue, 11/22/11, John Hauck wrote: From: John Hauck Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Mz 201 To: kolb-list@matronics.com Date: Tuesday, November 22, 2011, 8:56 AM John, Although the size of the font is OK your posts are double spaced and still too wide for the screen. Everyone else's posts are OK. Pat Patrick/Kolbers: Glad I got one thing right, the font. I am using "plain text", automatic word wrap with 60 space lines. My email is Outlook 2007, with current updates. Other than that, I have checked all my "stuff" and can find no reason that my email program would be "double spaced and too wide for the screen." Do you have any suggestions for me to correct this situation? john hmkIllTitus, Alabama wwwww.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kol b-ofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">h ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:58:47 AM PST US From: william sullivan Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mz 201 - Larry- Yours came through too wide, too. do nt archive --- On Tue, 11/22/11, Larry Cottrell wrote: From: Larry Cottrell Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mz 201 =0A=0A =0A =0A=0ABoth yours and John's went out of sight with the same =0Ap roblem. John says that his is set to Plain text. I checked the tool bar on this =0Amessage and there is a tool called "format" on this message, and it is set to =0A"Rich Text (html). 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My only reservation is the single diaphram carb. The MZ201 is just the MZ202 with a different intake manifold and Tillotson carb plus limit the rpm to 4800rpm. I used many of those carbs over the years and don't consider them reliable enough to fly with. Too much fiddling required as per Jack Harts blog, thanks Jack. If you could make a single carb manifold and use a Bing or Mikuni float style then you would be safer to fly. Either version you will have RPM options since you can limit it to 45hp or let it spin up to 60hp with nothing breaking. I want to install that engine on a Firestar II in the future (once I get my Mark III sold). It is not much heavier with the twin carb arrangement maybe you should think about that. I might know someone who has a manifold for the dual carb you could buy without having to pay for new. The MZ201 is just a de-rated 202. I like the fan cooling that doesn't use a belt, reed valve induction for good crankcase stuffing (simpler than rotary valve) and the MZ202 has almost the same HP as a Rotax 583 but weights 43# less because lighter block and no water cooling weight. Prices are less too. I would guess that you will like the MZ201 or 202 for thrust. I did talk to a fellow once who had the 201 on a twinstar and said it flew great. He did not like the carb much though and was working on inflight mixture control. His brakes would not hold it on the ground so he could not do the required full throttle run up required each time to set the carb needles as recommended. I think Leon at compactradialengines.com/ can give you his name also. PS how much lighter was it with only the single ignition over dual ignition? I like the thought of dual ignition with todays solid state circuits. In the old points 447 it usually would not just quit, it would just run bad and still get you home, most of the time solid state just quits with no warning. Dennis Long -------- Dennis Long Oakland TN 2001 Kolb Mark IIIC 110+ hours since March 2011 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=358811#358811 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:11:13 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Premeasuring oil for flights From: "SS568" Phactor, I would be Leary of using drink bottles (cheap plastic) for the storage of petroleum products. Many drink and water bottles are made to dissolve in a few months. David d. -------- Kolb Mark IIIX 582 Blue head Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=358812#358812 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:25:58 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Premeasuring oil for flights Buy a six-pack of plastic 16.9 fl oz softdrink bottles. Drink contents. Clean and dry bottles thoroughly. Remove labels. Mark gradients very carefully onto the outside surface of the bottles; preferably in one-fl-oz graduations (but essentially, in 1/8th graduations in the case you decide to top off with gas, described next). Measure out exactly 12.8 fl oz into each bottle and top off with one or two fl oz of gas. Throw bottles into your gunny sack before flying. Comments? Phil H. Phil H/Kolbers: Whatever works for you should be just fine. I did a lot of long two stroke cross country flights in my US, FS, and MKIII. Remember loading 12 qts of Pennzoil for air cooled engines in the FS, because that oil was impossible to find, on the road, back in the 1980's. Normally, I estimated how much fuel I was going to add to the tank, then poured in the oil right from the original 1 qt container. Topped off with fuel. Then rocked the aircraft fore and aft to mix the oil. Once at Norwich, NY, I forgot to rock the FS. Took off and started losing power. Figured out what was wrong, pulled the enricher wide open and regained enough power to land. If I had not pulled the enricher, the engine would have died before I got back on the ground. My float bowl and lines were mostly Pennzoil. Two stroke oil is already cut with a solvent, if I am remembering correctly. I believe engine manufacturers take into consideration the user will not be able to mix fuel and oil precisely, giving us some leeway on each side of 50 to 1. Keep it simple. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:51:15 AM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mz 201 OK, this time I clicked "plain text" as it came through on HTML Larry Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address. ----- Original Message ----- From: william sullivan Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:56 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mz 201 Larry- Yours came through too wide, too. do nt archive --- On Tue, 11/22/11, Larry Cottrell wrote: From: Larry Cottrell Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mz 201 Both yours and John's went out of sight with the same problem. John says that his is set to Plain text. I checked the tool bar on this message and there is a tool called "format" on this message, and it is set to "Rich Text (html). The funny part about it is that this is the only message in all of my email that gives me the option of changing the "Format" on the tool bar. for what it is worth, Larry Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address. ----- Original Message ----- From: william sullivan Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:15 AM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Mz 201 John- I think it's the Matronics computer. When I enter something, my font stays the same. The line length changes when I get it back. Regular e-mails from me to others don't do it. Maybe Matt knows why. do not archive Bill Sullivan --- On Tue, 11/22/11, John Hauck wrote: From: John Hauck Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Mz 201 John, Although the size of the font is OK your posts are double spaced and still too wide for the screen. Everyone else's posts are OK. Pat Patrick/Kolbers: Glad I got one thing right, the font. I am using "plain text", automatic word wrap with 60 space lines. My email is Outlook 2007, with current updates. Other than that, I have checked all my "stuff" and can find no reason that my email program would be "double spaced and too wide for the screen." Do you have any suggestions for me to correct this situation? john h mkIll Titus, Alabama wwwww.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/cmatronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-ofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">h href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c http://www.matronics.com/contribhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navi="_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.co ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:52:39 AM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mz 201 OK, this time I clicked "plain text" as it came through on HTML. I was planning on sending it through then I realized that I had not typed enough to wrap around. DUH? Then when I tried to send it on, every thing from your name to punctuation was questioned by spell checker. Beats me, you guy's are going to have to figured it out. Larry Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address. ----- Original Message ----- From: william sullivan Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:56 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mz 201 Larry- Yours came through too wide, too. do nt archive --- On Tue, 11/22/11, Larry Cottrell wrote: From: Larry Cottrell Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mz 201 Both yours and John's went out of sight with the same problem. John says that his is set to Plain text. I checked the tool bar on this message and there is a tool called "format" on this message, and it is set to "Rich Text (html). The funny part about it is that this is the only message in all of my email that gives me the option of changing the "Format" on the tool bar. for what it is worth, Larry Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address. ----- Original Message ----- From: william sullivan Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:15 AM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Mz 201 John- I think it's the Matronics computer. When I enter something, my font stays the same. The line length changes when I get it back. Regular e-mails from me to others don't do it. Maybe Matt knows why. do not archive Bill Sullivan --- On Tue, 11/22/11, John Hauck wrote: From: John Hauck Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Mz 201 John, Although the size of the font is OK your posts are double spaced and still too wide for the screen. Everyone else's posts are OK. Pat Patrick/Kolbers: Glad I got one thing right, the font. I am using "plain text", automatic word wrap with 60 space lines. My email is Outlook 2007, with current updates. Other than that, I have checked all my "stuff" and can find no reason that my email program would be "double spaced and too wide for the screen." Do you have any suggestions for me to correct this situation? john h mkIll Titus, Alabama wwwww.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/cmatronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-ofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">h href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c http://www.matronics.com/contribhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navi="_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.co ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:53:16 AM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mz 201 OK, this time I clicked "plain text" as it came through on HTML. I was planning on sending it through then I realized that I had not typed enough to wrap around. DUH? Then when I tried to send it on, every thing from your name to punctuation was questioned by spell checker. Beats me, you guy's are going to have to figured it out. Larry Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address. ----- Original Message ----- From: william sullivan Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:56 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mz 201 Larry- Yours came through too wide, too. do nt archive --- On Tue, 11/22/11, Larry Cottrell wrote: From: Larry Cottrell Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mz 201 Both yours and John's went out of sight with the same problem. John says that his is set to Plain text. I checked the tool bar on this message and there is a tool called "format" on this message, and it is set to "Rich Text (html). The funny part about it is that this is the only message in all of my email that gives me the option of changing the "Format" on the tool bar. for what it is worth, Larry Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address. ----- Original Message ----- From: william sullivan Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:15 AM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Mz 201 John- I think it's the Matronics computer. When I enter something, my font stays the same. The line length changes when I get it back. Regular e-mails from me to others don't do it. Maybe Matt knows why. do not archive Bill Sullivan --- On Tue, 11/22/11, John Hauck wrote: From: John Hauck Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Mz 201 John, Although the size of the font is OK your posts are double spaced and still too wide for the screen. Everyone else's posts are OK. Pat Patrick/Kolbers: Glad I got one thing right, the font. I am using "plain text", automatic word wrap with 60 space lines. My email is Outlook 2007, with current updates. Other than that, I have checked all my "stuff" and can find no reason that my email program would be "double spaced and too wide for the screen." Do you have any suggestions for me to correct this situation? john h mkIll Titus, Alabama wwwww.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/cmatronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-ofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">h href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c http://www.matronics.com/contribhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navi="_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.co ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:54:04 AM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mz 201 OK, this time I clicked "plain text" as it came through on HTML. I was planning on sending it through then I realized that I had not typed enough to wrap around. DUH? Then when I tried to send it on, every thing from your name to punctuation was questioned by spell checker. Beats me, you guy's are going to have to figured it out. Larry Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address. ----- Original Message ----- From: william sullivan Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:56 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mz 201 Larry- Yours came through too wide, too. do nt archive --- On Tue, 11/22/11, Larry Cottrell wrote: From: Larry Cottrell Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mz 201 Both yours and John's went out of sight with the same problem. John says that his is set to Plain text. I checked the tool bar on this message and there is a tool called "format" on this message, and it is set to "Rich Text (html). The funny part about it is that this is the only message in all of my email that gives me the option of changing the "Format" on the tool bar. for what it is worth, Larry Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address. ----- Original Message ----- From: william sullivan Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:15 AM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Mz 201 John- I think it's the Matronics computer. When I enter something, my font stays the same. The line length changes when I get it back. Regular e-mails from me to others don't do it. Maybe Matt knows why. do not archive Bill Sullivan --- On Tue, 11/22/11, John Hauck wrote: From: John Hauck Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Mz 201 John, Although the size of the font is OK your posts are double spaced and still too wide for the screen. Everyone else's posts are OK. Pat Patrick/Kolbers: Glad I got one thing right, the font. I am using "plain text", automatic word wrap with 60 space lines. My email is Outlook 2007, with current updates. Other than that, I have checked all my "stuff" and can find no reason that my email program would be "double spaced and too wide for the screen." Do you have any suggestions for me to correct this situation? john h mkIll Titus, Alabama wwwww.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/cmatronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-ofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">h href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c http://www.matronics.com/contribhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navi="_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.co ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:54:58 AM PST US From: "Jack B. Hart" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Mz 201 At 07:02 AM 11/22/11 -0800, you wrote: > >I believe your choice of the MZ201/2 will be a good one. My only reservation is the single diaphram carb. The MZ201 is just the MZ202 with a different intake manifold and Tillotson carb plus limit the rpm to 4800rpm. I used many of those carbs over the years and don't consider them reliable enough to fly with. Too much fiddling required as per Jack Harts blog, thanks Jack. If you could make a single carb manifold and use a Bing or Mikuni float style then you would be safer to fly. > ...................... Dennis, One of the things I discovered in adding air/fuel mixture controls to the Bing and the Tillotson carburetors is that it seems to calm things down. By that I mean one can set it and change AOA with no throttle change and the EGT remains pretty much constant. I believe the reason for such good results are due to the air pressure over the float bowl and under the control diaphragm is held constant, where the non controlled vents are subjected the pressure environment at the engine. In a pusher the air is being sucked into the propeller and so the carburetor vents see different pressures that are a combination of propeller/engine speed, relative wind, and altitude. By connecting the vent to a tube and bringing it into the cockpit area to a true static pressure port, the speed and relative wind influence portions are removed. I wish I had thought of this with the Rotax 447. I had problems with the Tillotson, but after receiving good information for initial setup, it seems to be quite stable. I like being able to prime it and to draw fuel up to the carburetor with a simple push bulb. One must balance out the low and high speed needles to maintain a flat EGT over the throttle range. Once this is done, one can prime the engine and the engine will start with the throttle closed. A huge plus for this carburetor is that one does not have to open the carburetor to change jets and needles and it comes with fuel pump built in. The only real problem with the Tillotson carburetor is the same as with the Bing, carburetor ice. I have fitted a stud heater to the bottom engine side of the Tillotson to try and compensate for the problem. I have not had a chance to check it out. I have been fortunate in that I mounted the MZ 34 inverted so that the carburetor needles can be accessed from the front. This allowed me to attach extension tubes to the needles and to manipulate them with the engine running and the FireFly tied down. It would be great if Tillotson would build a mirror image carburetor so that the same could be said for an upright engine. At this point I will take the Tillotson over the Bing, but it is going to take another season of flying to see it that holds true. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:45:39 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Premeasuring oil for flights From: "olendorf" That idea sounds really inconvenient. You will be carrying fuel you don't need and less oil that you might need. Since you have already marked gradients on one of the bottles it is a simple matter to measure just the right amount of oil and dump it in when you get gas. I wouldn't mark in 1 ounce gradients though, I mark mine in gallons. Then you don't have to do the math. You fill up and get 4 gallons then you add oil to the 4 gallon mark and dump it in. Can't get any easier. I used a Prestone antifreeze container to hold my 2 stroke oil for my long trips. It's nice and slim for storage. -------- Scott Olendorf Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop Schenectady, NY http://sites.google.com/site/kolbfirestar/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=358895#358895 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 05:42:07 PM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Premeasuring oil for flights At 07:43 PM 11/22/2011, olendorf wrote: > >That idea sounds really inconvenient. You will be carrying fuel you >don't need and less oil that you might need. Since you have already >marked gradients on one of the bottles it is a simple matter to measure >just the right amount of oil and dump it in when you get gas. I wouldn't >mark in 1 ounce gradients though, I mark mine in gallons. Then you don't >have to do the math. You fill up and get 4 gallons then you add oil to the >4 gallon mark and dump it in. Can't get any easier. I use a large syringe, I think it's 250cc or so, with a label calibrated in gallons at the appropriate mix ratio. Knowing approximately how much fuel I'll need, I fill the syringe to that amount and squirt it into the tank as I'm pumping the gas, repeat as necessary. I fill the syringe from a Nalgene bottle of oil to into whose cap I've mounted a Luer fitting (the standard syringe connection) and suck in the amount of oil I'll need. At home I just premix in the can, of course. -Dana -- A conclusion is the place where you get tired of thinking. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.