Kolb-List Digest Archive

Fri 11/25/11


Total Messages Posted: 13



Today's Message Index:
----------------------
 
     0. 12:24 AM - Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution... (Matt Dralle)
     1. 03:44 AM - Re: Re: Where to buy two stroke oil? (Jerry Deckard)
     2. 05:43 AM - Molded Hoses (SS568)
     3. 07:33 AM - Re: Molded Hoses (John Hauck)
     4. 07:40 AM - Re: Molded Hoses (Richard Girard)
     5. 11:32 AM - Re: Firefly under 254 - How did you do it? (Don G)
     6. 02:40 PM - Re: Re: Firefly under 254 - How did you do it? (Dennis Souder)
     7. 02:57 PM - Re: Firefly under 254 - How did you do it? (Don G)
     8. 03:04 PM - Re: Re: Firefly under 254 - How did you do it? (robert bean)
     9. 07:05 PM - end of the season, a day early... (Dana Hague)
    10. 07:23 PM - Re: Firefly under 254 - How did you do it? (Richard Pike)
    11. 07:48 PM - Re: Re: Firefly under 254 - How did you do it? (robert bean)
    12. 08:18 PM - Re: Re: Firefly under 254 - How did you do it? (John Hauck)
 
 
 


Message 0


  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 12:24:44 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution...
    There is less than a week left in this year's List Fund Raiser and only a few short days to grab one of the great Contribution Gifts available this year. Support is still significantly lagging behind last year at this point but hopefully it will pick up here towards the end. Please remember that it is solely the Contributions of List members that keeps the Lists up and running as there is no commercialism or advertising on the Matronics Lists and Forums. The List Contribution web site is secure, fast, and easy and you can use a credit card, Paypal: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I want to thank everyone that has already made a generous contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics EMail List and Forum Administrator


    Message 1


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 03:44:27 AM PST US
    From: "Jerry Deckard" <flypoker@windstream.net>
    Subject: Re: Where to buy two stroke oil?
    I used to buy stuff from Danny Day. I haven't heard anything from him in a few years or any advertisements in several years. I don't know if he is still around. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "flyingfischead" <flyingfischead@yahoo.com> Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 7:34 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Where to buy two stroke oil? > <flyingfischead@yahoo.com> > > If he is still in business, Danny Day of Colorado Ultralights ( can't > remember the Address) used to sell 2 stroke oil CUA 101 a synthetic that I > used in a Rotax 503 for 20 years. I started with a new 503 single carb and > did the break in with the oil sent with the engine. After about 20 hrs., I > switched to CUA 101 and immediately dropped my cyl. head temps 30 degrees > and they stayed there from then on. Some type of technology that smooths > the pores of the cylinder wall metal. Great stuff. They also make Gear Aid > which is an additive for the gearbox. This too is a great product. When I > pulled the heads to decarb there was very little carbon buildup anywhere > which I think is the result of this oil. Might be worth checking out. I > still have half a gallon of this oil which I plan on using in a 447 Kolb > Firestar when it gets ready to fly. :D > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359138#359138 > > >


    Message 2


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 05:43:50 AM PST US
    Subject: Molded Hoses
    From: "SS568" <david@PaulowniaTrees.com>
    I hope all had a good turkey day. We have a lot to be thankful for. I am about to change all water hoses and fuel lines (582-99). Looking up part #s and prices,, all was fine until I got to the molded hoses. Is there an alternative place to order them. Of course they must be of equal or better quality than the original. Any recommendations appreciated. David d. -------- Kolb Mark IIIX 582 Blue head Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359232#359232


    Message 3


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 07:33:16 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Molded Hoses
    I am about to change all water hoses and fuel lines (582-99). Looking up part #s and prices,, all was fine until I got to the molded hoses. Is there an alternative place to order them David d. Kolbers: Most auto parts stores will let you go behind the counter to shop rubber hoses if you ask them. That is what I do when I shop for hoses for my 912ULS, antique tractors, and other projects. Many times there will be a hose with the right dimensions and curves that you are looking for, and much cheaper than Rotax prices. john h mkIII Mobile, Alabama


    Message 4


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 07:40:57 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Molded Hoses
    From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
    I use silicon racing hose from Pegasus Racing. Cheaper than Rotax and last forever (or thereabout :-}) https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/ Rick Girard On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 7:41 AM, SS568 <david@paulowniatrees.com> wrote: > > I hope all had a good turkey day. We have a lot to be thankful for. > > I am about to change all water hoses and fuel lines (582-99). Looking up > part #s and prices,, all was fine until I got to the molded hoses. Is > there an alternative place to order them. Of course they must be of equal > or better quality than the original. > Any recommendations appreciated. > > David d. > > -------- > Kolb Mark IIIX 582 Blue head > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359232#359232 > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx


    Message 5


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 11:32:23 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Firefly under 254 - How did you do it?
    From: "Don G" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
    I did...built to plans except for extra rib braceing..done with aluminum angle...came in at 252 dry. and I had alot of paint on it most wouldnt have.. you might have seen it here known as the Flagfly. AND..that was with full enclosure windscreen BYW.. wasnt long though before I added bigger tires and wheels and brakes and various other things. I had trouble with the go-kart brakes.. If you convert to single streamlined struts BTW...you will save weight over plans built, and gain much performance. I used aluminum streamlined tubing from Wicks. AS for the size..I cant remember but it was the same size as a Challenger uses...it will save several lbs over the twin cromemoly struts. I believe a Fly could be built under 246 or 247 pretty easy tho...and with a 447.... -------- Don G. Central Illinois Kitfox IV Speedster Luscombe 8A Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359244#359244


    Message 6


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 02:40:50 PM PST US
    From: "Dennis Souder" <flykolb@pa.net>
    Subject: Re: Firefly under 254 - How did you do it?
    AC 103-7 be used to show compliance for the FF 103 status. If you change to single struts, the FF top speed will be too fast according to 103-7. Some would say this is not something I am going to worry about. I received a call from the attorney of a FF owner who was having is private license revoked because he was flying his FF illegally. A neighbor had complained about his flying operations and the FAA became involved and determined he did not have a legal UL and therefore he was flying an unregistered aircraft. Because he had private license, they revoked that too along with shutting down his unregistered airstrip. The attorney called me because he was trying to get his clients private reinstated. He wanted to know if it could be proven that the FF was a legal ul. If it could be proven then his client could get his license back. I said sure AC 103-7 shows it to be legal as far as stall speed and top speeds are concerned. Weight of course would need to be determined by weighing. The attorney said there was a little glitch because the FF had only one strut on each side .... was there any other way to prove it was a legal ul. I said unfortunately no, AC 103-7 will not work if the FF only has one strut. With a 447 the FF has a higher top speed than 63 mph, so a speed test cannot be used. So the guy was out of his license and out of options. Dennis -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don G Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 2:30 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Firefly under 254 - How did you do it? I did...built to plans except for extra rib braceing..done with aluminum angle...came in at 252 dry. and I had alot of paint on it most wouldnt have.. you might have seen it here known as the Flagfly. AND..that was with full enclosure windscreen BYW.. wasnt long though before I added bigger tires and wheels and brakes and various other things. I had trouble with the go-kart brakes.. If you convert to single streamlined struts BTW...you will save weight over plans built, and gain much performance. I used aluminum streamlined tubing from Wicks. AS for the size..I cant remember but it was the same size as a Challenger uses...it will save several lbs over the twin cromemoly struts. I believe a Fly could be built under 246 or 247 pretty easy tho...and with a 447.... -------- Don G. Central Illinois Kitfox IV Speedster Luscombe 8A Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359244#359244


    Message 7


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 02:57:39 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Firefly under 254 - How did you do it?
    From: "Don G" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
    Yup..definately will fly faster than 63...alot faster...heck I used to cruise at 60 to 65 at 4800 to 5000 rpms.. course..I had the prop set for top end. -------- Don G. Central Illinois Kitfox IV Speedster Luscombe 8A Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359256#359256


    Message 8


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 03:04:22 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Firefly under 254 - How did you do it?
    From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    moral of the story: keep on good terms with your neighbors. I doubt they could "shut down his illegal airstrip" unless they can remove every vacant hayfield in the USA from the face of the earth. In spite of his difficulties this guy should still be able to fly an obviously legal ultralight craft any time in the future. Skating on thin ice with a marginally 103 plane would not be an option. -once again, stay away from grouchy neighbors. I have to put up with the war zone noise every deer hunting season too but figure it only lasts a few weeks. BB MkIII, suzuki "if it's the king's forest that makes 'em the king's deer" do not archive On 25, Nov 2011, at 5:38 PM, Dennis Souder wrote: > > AC 103-7 be used to show compliance for the FF 103 status. If you change to > single struts, the FF top speed will be too fast according to 103-7. > Some would say this is not something I am going to worry about. > > I received a call from the attorney of a FF owner who was having is private > license revoked because he was flying his FF illegally. A neighbor had > complained about his flying operations and the FAA became involved and > determined he did not have a legal UL and therefore he was flying an > unregistered aircraft. Because he had private license, they revoked that > too along with shutting down his unregistered airstrip. The attorney called > me because he was trying to get his clients private reinstated. He wanted > to know if it could be proven that the FF was a legal ul. If it could be > proven then his client could get his license back. I said sure AC 103-7 > shows it to be legal as far as stall speed and top speeds are concerned. > Weight of course would need to be determined by weighing. The attorney said > there was a little glitch because the FF had only one strut on each side > .... was there any other way to prove it was a legal ul. I said > unfortunately no, AC 103-7 will not work if the FF only has one strut. With > a 447 the FF has a higher top speed than 63 mph, so a speed test cannot be > used. So the guy was out of his license and out of options. > Dennis > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don G > Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 2:30 PM > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Firefly under 254 - How did you do it? > > > I did...built to plans except for extra rib braceing..done with aluminum > angle...came in at 252 dry. and I had alot of paint on it most wouldnt > have.. you might have seen it here known as the Flagfly. AND..that was with > full enclosure windscreen BYW.. > wasnt long though before I added bigger tires and wheels and brakes and > various other things. I had trouble with the go-kart brakes.. > > If you convert to single streamlined struts BTW...you will save weight over > plans built, and gain much performance. I used aluminum streamlined tubing > from Wicks. AS for the size..I cant remember but it was the same size as a > Challenger uses...it will save several lbs over the twin cromemoly struts. > > I believe a Fly could be built under 246 or 247 pretty easy tho...and with a > 447.... > > -------- > Don G. > Central Illinois > Kitfox IV Speedster > Luscombe 8A > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359244#359244 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


    Message 9


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 07:05:13 PM PST US
    From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
    Subject: end of the season, a day early...
    Grrrrr..... Sunny, 60's, light winds, probably the last good day... was gonna spend all day flying before trailering my plane home for the winter. Flew a bit today and the engine wasn't behaving properly. Couldn't hold cruise rpm on the Cuyuna, set if at 5500, rpm falls off to maybe 4000, I increase it to 5500, starts increasing by itself over a minute of so to 6000+, back off to 5500, same cycle. Did the same thing last time I flew a couple of weeks ago; I attributed it to an air leak in the fuel line, fixed that, but obviously it didn't solve the problem. Temps OK... EGT follows the rpm, but not over limit. Landed back at the airport, ran it at cruise rpm on the ground, seemed a bit better, fuel pressure on the low side, around 1.5 psi... then it just suddenly quit. Pulled the plugs, the back plug shows signs of lean running. Closer inspection shows evidence of leakage at the rear seal, so I guess that's it (though I'm not clear on why the rpm was varying as it did); today instead of tomorrow was my last flight for the year. -Dana -- No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced.


    Message 10


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 07:23:36 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Firefly under 254 - How did you do it?
    From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
    Concerning an illegal airport - here is the FAR that governs airports - CFR 114 ~ 157judge for yourself whether or not any given airport is "illegal." 157.1 Applicability. This part applies to persons proposing to construct, alter, activate, or deactivate a civil or joint-use (civil/military) airport or to alter the status or use of such an airport. Requirements for persons to notify the Administrator concerning certain airport activities are prescribed in this part. This part does not apply to projects involving: (a) An airport subject to conditions of a Federal agreement that requires an approved current airport layout plan to be on file with the Federal Aviation Administration; or (b) An airport at which flight operations will be conducted under visual flight rules (VFR) and which is used or intended to be used for a period of less than 30 consecutive days with no more than 10 operations per day. (c) The intermittent use of a site that is not an established airport, which is used or intended to be used for less than one year and at which flight operations will be conducted only under VFR. For the purposes of this part, intermittent use of a site means: (1) The site is used or is intended to be used for no more than 3 days in any one week; and (2) No more than 10 operations will be conducted in any one day at that site. 157.2 Definition of terms. For the purpose of this part: Airport means any airport, heliport, helistop, vertiport, gliderport, seaplane base, ultralight flightpark, manned balloon launching facility, or other aircraft landing or takeoff area. Heliport means any landing or takeoff area intended for use by helicopters or other rotary wing type aircraft capable of vertical takeoff and landing profiles. Private use means available for use by the owner only or by the owner and other persons authorized by the owner. Private use of public lands means that the landing and takeoff area of the proposed airport is publicly owned and the proponent is a non-government entity, regardless of whether that landing and takeoff area is on land or on water and whether the controlling entity be local, State, or Federal Government. Public use means available for use by the general public without a requirement for prior approval of the owner or operator. Traffic pattern means the traffic flow that is prescribed for aircraft landing or taking off from an airport, including departure and arrival procedures utilized within a 5-mile radius of the airport for ingress, egress, and noise abatement. 157.3 Projects requiring notice. Each person who intends to do any of the following shall notify the Administrator in the manner prescribed in 157.5: (a) Construct or otherwise establish a new airport or activate an airport. (b) Construct, realign, alter, or activate any runway or other aircraft landing or takeoff area of an airport. (c) Deactivate, discontinue using, or abandon an airport or any landing or takeoff area of an airport for a period of one year or more. (d) Construct, realign, alter, activate, deactivate, abandon, or discontinue using a taxiway associated with a landing or takeoff area on a public-use airport. (e) Change the status of an airport from private use to public use or from public use to another status. (f) Change any traffic pattern or traffic pattern altitude or direction. (g) Change status from IFR to VFR or VFR to IFR. 157.5 Notice of intent. (a) Notice shall be submitted on FAA Form 74801, copies of which may be obtained from an FAA Airport District/Field Office or Regional Office, to one of those offices and shall be submitted at least (1) In the cases prescribed in paragraphs (a) through (d) of 157.3, 90 days in advance of the day that work is to begin; or (2) In the cases prescribed in paragraphs (e) through (g) of 157.3, 90 days in advance of the planned implementation date. (b) Notwithstanding paragraph (a) of this section (1) In an emergency involving essential public service, public health, or public safety or when the delay arising from the 90-day advance notice requirement would result in an unreasonable hardship, a proponent may provide notice to the appropriate FAA Airport District/Field Office or Regional Office by telephone or other expeditious means as soon as practicable in lieu of submitting FAA Form 74801. However, the proponent shall provide full notice, through the submission of FAA Form 74801, when otherwise requested or required by the FAA. (2) notice concerning the deactivation, discontinued use, or abandonment of an airport, an airport landing or takeoff area, or associated taxiway may be submitted by letter. Prior notice is not required; except that a 30-day prior notice is required when an established instrument approach procedure is involved or when the affected property is subject to any agreement with the United States requiring that it be maintained and operated as a public-use airport. 157.7 FAA determinations. (a) The FAA will conduct an aeronautical study of an airport proposal and, after consultations with interested persons, as appropriate, issue a determination to the proponent and advise those concerned of the FAA determination. The FAA will consider matters such as the effects the proposed action would have on existing or contemplated traffic patterns of neighboring airports; the effects the proposed action would have on the existing airspace structure and projected programs of the FAA; and the effects that existing or proposed manmade objects (on file with the FAA) and natural objects within the affected area would have on the airport proposal. While determinations consider the effects of the proposed action on the safe and efficient use of airspace by aircraft and the safety of persons and property on the ground, the determinations are only advisory. Except for an objectionable determination, each determination will contain a determination-void date to facilitate efficient planning of the use of the navigable airspace. A determination does not relieve the proponent of responsibility for compliance with any local law, ordinance or regulation, or state or other Federal regulation. Aeronautical studies and determinations will not consider environmental or land use compatibility impacts. (b) An airport determination issued under this part will be one of the following: (1) No objection. (2) Conditional. A conditional determination will identify the objectionable aspects of a project or action and specify the conditions which must be met and sustained to preclude an objectionable determination. (3) Objectionable. An objectionable determination will specify the FAA's reasons for issuing such a determination. (c) Determination void date. All work or action for which notice is required by this sub-part must be completed by the determination void date. Unless otherwise extended, revised, or terminated, an FAA determination becomes invalid on the day specified as the determination void date. Interested persons may, at least 15 days in advance of the determination void date, petition the FAA official who issued the determination to: (1) Revise the determination based on new facts that change the basis on which it was made; or (2) Extend the determination void date. Determinations will be furnished to the proponent, aviation officials of the state concerned, and, when appropriate, local political bodies and other interested persons. 157.9 Notice of completion. Within 15 days after completion of any airport project covered by this part, the proponent of such project shall notify the FAA Airport District Office or Regional Office by submission of FAA Form 50105 or by letter. A copy of FAA Form 50105 will be provided with the FAA determination. Since this is quite long - Do Not Archive -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359271#359271


    Message 11


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 07:48:57 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Firefly under 254 - How did you do it?
    From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    I'm quite happy to not have read such gibberish. -IRS is bad enough. I'm also quite content to have my little grass strip NOT be an airport. Merely my personal entrance and exit to my property. -----for the last 39 years, BB do not archive On 25, Nov 2011, at 10:21 PM, Richard Pike wrote: > > Concerning an illegal airport - here is the FAR that governs airports - CFR 114 ~ 157judge for yourself whether or not any given airport is "illegal." > > 157.1 Applicability. > > This part applies to persons proposing to construct, alter, activate, or deactivate a civil or joint-use (civil/military) airport or to alter the status or use of such an airport. Requirements for persons to notify the Administrator concerning certain airport activities are prescribed in this part. This part does not apply to projects involving: > > (a) An airport subject to conditions of a Federal agreement that requires an approved current airport layout plan to be on file with the Federal Aviation Administration; or > > (b) An airport at which flight operations will be conducted under visual flight rules (VFR) and which is used or intended to be used for a period of less than 30 consecutive days with no more than 10 operations per day. > > (c) The intermittent use of a site that is not an established airport, which is used or intended to be used for less than one year and at which flight operations will be conducted only under VFR. For the purposes of this part, intermittent use of a site means: > > (1) The site is used or is intended to be used for no more than 3 days in any one week; and > > (2) No more than 10 operations will be conducted in any one day at that site. > > 157.2 Definition of terms. > > For the purpose of this part: > > Airport means any airport, heliport, helistop, vertiport, gliderport, seaplane base, ultralight flightpark, manned balloon launching facility, or other aircraft landing or takeoff area. > > Heliport means any landing or takeoff area intended for use by helicopters or other rotary wing type aircraft capable of vertical takeoff and landing profiles. > > Private use means available for use by the owner only or by the owner and other persons authorized by the owner. > > Private use of public lands means that the landing and takeoff area of the proposed airport is publicly owned and the proponent is a non-government entity, regardless of whether that landing and takeoff area is on land or on water and whether the controlling entity be local, State, or Federal Government. > > Public use means available for use by the general public without a requirement for prior approval of the owner or operator. > > Traffic pattern means the traffic flow that is prescribed for aircraft landing or taking off from an airport, including departure and arrival procedures utilized within a 5-mile radius of the airport for ingress, egress, and noise abatement. > > 157.3 Projects requiring notice. > > Each person who intends to do any of the following shall notify the Administrator in the manner prescribed in 157.5: > > (a) Construct or otherwise establish a new airport or activate an airport. > > (b) Construct, realign, alter, or activate any runway or other aircraft landing or takeoff area of an airport. > > (c) Deactivate, discontinue using, or abandon an airport or any landing or takeoff area of an airport for a period of one year or more. > > (d) Construct, realign, alter, activate, deactivate, abandon, or discontinue using a taxiway associated with a landing or takeoff area on a public-use airport. > > (e) Change the status of an airport from private use to public use or from public use to another status. > > (f) Change any traffic pattern or traffic pattern altitude or direction. > > (g) Change status from IFR to VFR or VFR to IFR. > > 157.5 Notice of intent. > > (a) Notice shall be submitted on FAA Form 74801, copies of which may be obtained from an FAA Airport District/Field Office or Regional Office, to one of those offices and shall be submitted at least > > (1) In the cases prescribed in paragraphs (a) through (d) of 157.3, 90 days in advance of the day that work is to begin; or > > (2) In the cases prescribed in paragraphs (e) through (g) of 157.3, 90 days in advance of the planned implementation date. > > (b) Notwithstanding paragraph (a) of this section > > (1) In an emergency involving essential public service, public health, or public safety or when the delay arising from the 90-day advance notice requirement would result in an unreasonable hardship, a proponent may provide notice to the appropriate FAA Airport District/Field Office or Regional Office by telephone or other expeditious means as soon as practicable in lieu of submitting FAA Form 74801. However, the proponent shall provide full notice, through the submission of FAA Form 74801, when otherwise requested or required by the FAA. > > (2) notice concerning the deactivation, discontinued use, or abandonment of an airport, an airport landing or takeoff area, or associated taxiway may be submitted by letter. Prior notice is not required; except that a 30-day prior notice is required when an established instrument approach procedure is involved or when the affected property is subject to any agreement with the United States requiring that it be maintained and operated as a public-use airport. > > 157.7 FAA determinations. > > (a) The FAA will conduct an aeronautical study of an airport proposal and, after consultations with interested persons, as appropriate, issue a determination to the proponent and advise those concerned of the FAA determination. The FAA will consider matters such as the effects the proposed action would have on existing or contemplated traffic patterns of neighboring airports; the effects the proposed action would have on the existing airspace structure and projected programs of the FAA; and the effects that existing or proposed manmade objects (on file with the FAA) and natural objects within the affected area would have on the airport proposal. While determinations consider the effects of the proposed action on the safe and efficient use of airspace by aircraft and the safety of persons and property on the ground, the determinations are only advisory. Except for an objectionable determination, each determination will contain a determination-void date to facilitate efficient! > planning of the use of the navigable airspace. A determination does not relieve the proponent of responsibility for compliance with any local law, ordinance or regulation, or state or other Federal regulation. Aeronautical studies and determinations will not consider environmental or land use compatibility impacts. > > (b) An airport determination issued under this part will be one of the following: > > (1) No objection. > > (2) Conditional. A conditional determination will identify the objectionable aspects of a project or action and specify the conditions which must be met and sustained to preclude an objectionable determination. > > (3) Objectionable. An objectionable determination will specify the FAA's reasons for issuing such a determination. > > (c) Determination void date. All work or action for which notice is required by this sub-part must be completed by the determination void date. Unless otherwise extended, revised, or terminated, an FAA determination becomes invalid on the day specified as the determination void date. Interested persons may, at least 15 days in advance of the determination void date, petition the FAA official who issued the determination to: > > (1) Revise the determination based on new facts that change the basis on which it was made; or > > (2) Extend the determination void date. Determinations will be furnished to the proponent, aviation officials of the state concerned, and, when appropriate, local political bodies and other interested persons. > > 157.9 Notice of completion. > > Within 15 days after completion of any airport project covered by this part, the proponent of such project shall notify the FAA Airport District Office or Regional Office by submission of FAA Form 50105 or by letter. A copy of FAA Form 50105 will be provided with the FAA determination. > > > Since this is quite long - Do Not Archive > > -------- > Richard Pike > Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org > Kingsport, TN 3TN0 > Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. > Hebrews 11:1 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359271#359271 > > > > > > > > > >


    Message 12


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 08:18:07 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Firefly under 254 - How did you do it?
    I'm also quite content to have my little grass strip NOT be an airport. Merely my personal entrance and exit to my property. -----for the last 39 years, BB Me too! I am the regulator. ;-) For the last 27 years. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama




    Other Matronics Email List Services

  • Post A New Message
  •   kolb-list@matronics.com
  • UN/SUBSCRIBE
  •   http://www.matronics.com/subscription
  • List FAQ
  •   http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm
  • Web Forum Interface To Lists
  •   http://forums.matronics.com
  • Matronics List Wiki
  •   http://wiki.matronics.com
  • 7-Day List Browse
  •   http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list
  • Browse Kolb-List Digests
  •   http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list
  • Browse Other Lists
  •   http://www.matronics.com/browse
  • Live Online Chat!
  •   http://www.matronics.com/chat
  • Archive Downloading
  •   http://www.matronics.com/archives
  • Photo Share
  •   http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
  • Other Email Lists
  •   http://www.matronics.com/emaillists
  • Contributions
  •   http://www.matronics.com/contribution

    These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.

    -- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --