---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 11/28/11: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:24 AM - Re: Re: Some success at last (Pat Ladd) 2. 07:58 AM - Re: NO end of the season, a day early... (Gary Aman) 3. 08:25 AM - Re: Re: Some success at last (Jack B. Hart) 4. 03:10 PM - Re: Some success at last (Richard Pike) 5. 09:29 PM - Snapping a line.....? (Nick Cassara) 6. 09:54 PM - Re: Snapping a line.....? (John Hauck) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:24:29 AM PST US From: "Pat Ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Some success at last Hi, trimming out for passenger/no passenger in the Xtra is simply achieved by applying the patented John Hauck method. Take a bungee. Anchor one end to the base of the passengers seat near the door. Take 2 turns around the stick and anchor the free end to the same place. Use a length of bungee such that there is tension applied The amount of trim required to take the weight off the stick to compensate for varying passenger load is simply adjusted by sliding the loop of bungee up or down the stick to increase or decrease the tension. I have used this ever since John brought the system to my attention when I first acquired my Xtra and it has worked like a charm. Good luck Pat ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:58:36 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: NO end of the season, a day early... From: Gary Aman Boyd, We consider the heating system in our MK3 to be "Passive Solar".Northern he adings this time of year.are always cooler. Gary& Marj -----Original Message----- From: b young Sent: Sun, Nov 27, 2011 10:15 pm Subject: Kolb-List: NO end of the season, a day early... what is this end of the season talk,,,, my wife and I took to the air fo r 1.5 hours yesterday, we left Brigham and flew out around the end of pro montory point in the great salt lake, then on to the spiral jetty on the n orth west arm, flying out was quite warm as the sun was coming in the wind ows, on the way back home it got bit cool. this week is forecast to be a bit warmer, and we may go again, say Tuesday. we may fly north till we get cool, then turn back south and warm up before we land. usually I can find a 40 deg day even through the winter months till it warms up again,,, I use to go at 20 deg, but I am getting older and wiser. boyd young mkiii ut ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:25:39 AM PST US From: "Jack B. Hart" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Some success at last At 09:31 PM 11/27/11 -0800, you wrote: > > >Yes. My trim tab on the right aileron is adjustable, and I set it different when I am solo vs carrying a passenger. > >-------- Richard & Pat, If you have retrimmed your aircraft in roll for carrying a passenger and in level flight, what change is there in rudder pedal pressure and the ball or string slip indicator when flying with no passenger? Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:10:50 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Some success at last From: "Richard Pike" jbhart(at)onlyinternet.ne wrote: > At 09:31 PM 11/27/11 -0800, you wrote: > > > > > > > Yes. My trim tab on the right aileron is adjustable, and I set it different > > when I am solo vs carrying a passenger. > > > > > Richard & Pat, > > If you have retrimmed your aircraft in roll for carrying a passenger and in > level flight, what change is there in rudder pedal pressure and the ball or > string slip indicator when flying with no passenger? > > Jack B. Hart FF004 > Winchester, IN My trim tab is not big enough, so I am pushing with the left foot no matter what I do. Winter project: new trim tab. -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359580#359580 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:29:48 PM PST US From: "Nick Cassara" Subject: Kolb-List: Snapping a line.....? Hello John, When you snapped that line, reducing the area, across the back of your flap and aileron what were you hoping to gain, or change, and did you get the desired effect? I how everyone who reads this post will give what they can, so we all can continue to learn about and enjoy these great planes! Thank you for all you have shared with us, John. Thanks, Nick Cassara Palmer, Alaska N607AK ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:54:29 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Snapping a line.....? When you snapped that line, reducing the area, across the back of your flap and aileron what were you hoping to gain, or change, and did you get the desired effect? Nick Cassara Nick C/Gang: In addition to a bright blue chalk line.;-)., I reduced the area of the aileron, kept a nice straight line for the trailing edge of the aileron and the flap. From the experience I gained flying off the test hours on the factory Kolb MKIII in 1991, I knew I did not need that much aileron on my MKIII. The reduction worked great and I have never run out of aileron. I was trying to reduce the load on the ailerons and lighten stick forces a bit. They still load up at speeds over 65 or 70 mph hour. I complained to Homer Kolb about the heavy ailerons on my FS. He told me to be gentle with it and it would roll. He was right. I did run out of aileron on the factory FF at Lakeland one year. Was on short final, direct cross wind out of the south, terrible turbulence. I was slow, but well above stall speed when I hit the aileron stop. Not a good feeling. Nick: Do you know Jim Stocker? He has a place on the Knik River, just downstream from the old Glenn Highway bridge. It is a gravel strip on the north river bank. I spent a week with him and his wife, Beverly, on my last flight to Alaska in 2004. The name of the strip on Google Earth is Shelby Strip. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.