---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 12/09/11: 18 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:12 AM - Re: Kolbs in GA (cristalclear13) 2. 07:42 AM - Re: Kolbs in GA (Ozarkflyer) 3. 09:52 AM - Re: Matronics Web Services Restored! (Dennis Thate) 4. 02:55 PM - Kolbra project for sale? (Martin Koxxy) 5. 03:29 PM - Re: Re: Matronics Web Services Restored! (Charlie England) 6. 03:59 PM - Re: Mz 201 (mlblank) 7. 05:06 PM - Re: Re: Mz 201 (chris davis) 8. 05:20 PM - Re: Re: Mz 201 (Phil) 9. 05:27 PM - Re: Matronics Web Services Restored! (Dennis Thate) 10. 06:34 PM - Re: Re: Mz 201 (chris davis) 11. 06:47 PM - Perplexed turns to Bummed (Richard Girard) 12. 07:13 PM - Re: Perplexed turns to Bummed (william sullivan) 13. 07:42 PM - Re: Kolbra project for sale? (tkben002) 14. 07:50 PM - Re: Re: Matronics Web Services Restored! (Larry Cottrell) 15. 08:15 PM - Re: Perplexed turns to Bummed (John Hauck) 16. 08:27 PM - Re: aileron hinge wire (Arksey@aol.com) 17. 08:34 PM - Re: Re: aileron hinge wire (william sullivan) 18. 08:45 PM - Re: Re: Mz 201 (Herb Gayheart) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:12:18 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolbs in GA From: "cristalclear13" Ozarkflyer wrote: > Do a Matronics search for Cristalclear13. She lived in Waycross and flew a MkIIIC, I believe. Waycross is about 65 to 70 miles NE of Valdosta. Good highway. Thanks for thinking of me. I am still flying my Mark II Twinstar out of Waycross when I get a spare moment. And I did get Morris' message. Thanks. -------- Cristal Waters Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Sept 2007 Private Pilot Aug 2008 ELSA Repairman for N193Y April 2008 Rotax 2 stroke maintenance April 2009 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360504#360504 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:42:50 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolbs in GA From: "Ozarkflyer" You're welcome. Waycross was my first stop on my cross-country flight as a student pilot. I was flying out of Herlong Field in Jax. at the time. Speaking of which, I'm going to be in Jax over the holidays. Any Kolbs in the N. Florida area? -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360530#360530 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:52:31 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Matronics Web Services Restored! From: "Dennis Thate" Hi Matt, Many forums have an 'Ignore feature' for the 'few' who always seem to become forum pest. I might consider donating if this feature existed on your forum. I came here to share knowledge and make new friends, not to be publicly bashed! Regards, Dennis Thate Kolb Firestar II -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern These flying machines are just a fad and will never catch on Unknown Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360537#360537 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:55:49 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Kolbra project for sale? From: Martin Koxxy Is anyone interested in selling me their Kolbra project? Must be in early stages (I want to build most of it). Pacific NW preferred - need to see it before committing. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:29:42 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Matronics Web Services Restored! On 12/09/2011 11:49 AM, Dennis Thate wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dennis Thate" > > Hi Matt, > > Many forums have an 'Ignore feature' for the 'few' who always seem to become forum pest. I might consider donating if this feature existed on your forum. I came here to share knowledge and make new friends, not to be publicly bashed! > > Regards, > Dennis Thate > Kolb Firestar II Hi Dennis, The Thunderbird email software has this feature built in, if you use email instead of the web forum to read the Kolb list. I suspect that most of the other email clients do this, as well. I know it works, because I 'banned' the one frequently obnoxious poster here on the Kolb list years ago, & the only time I see what he writes is if it's quoted in someone's reply. Charlie ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:59:23 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Mz 201 From: "mlblank" I ordered a firefly quick build 2 weeks ago, and I have yet to decide which engine I am going to use. I am considering using a mz201 because of the dual ignition and less weight than the 447. Does anyone use this engine on a pusher, or know of anyone that has some hours experience with the engine. I was told by someone to just go with a 503 because of the dual ignition, so I talked with Travis at kolb about it and He said guys have put 503's on firefly's , but I probably won't stay under the legal weight for an ultralight. So I need to hear some more pro and cons about the mz201 . Thanks, Michael Blank Gap Pa Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360577#360577 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:06:24 PM PST US From: chris davis Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Mz 201 Michael, I am in the same boat you are have a Firefly half built and I flew a firestar with a 503 for 10 years trouble free and I am fond of the dual spark Travis tells mre they are working on an engine mount for a- mz 201 ,- maybe for you but the engine sounds good weight wise and power wise I have been looking for someone that has been using it for about a month with no luck ! its expensive but so are the 447 and the 503 ! I am trying to sa ve weight as I will need extra controls as I cant use my feet . Stay in tou ch, Im here every day . Chris-=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider P ilot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly=0A=0A=0A_______________________ _________=0AFrom: mlblank =0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Friday, December 9, 2011 6:56 PM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: Re: Mz 201 ordered a firefly quick build 2 weeks ago, and I have yet to decide which engine I am going to use.=0A=0AI am considering using a mz201 because of th e dual ignition and less weight than the 447.=0A=0ADoes anyone use this eng ine on a pusher, or know of anyone that has some hours experience with the engine.=0A=0AI was told by someone to just go with a 503 because of the dua l ignition, so I talked with Travis at kolb about it and He said guys have put 503's on firefly's , but I probably won't stay under the legal weight f or an ultralight.=0A=0ASo I need to hear some more pro and cons about the m z201 .=0AThanks, Michael Blank=0AGap Pa=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic onlin e here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360577#360577=0A ==================== ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:20:10 PM PST US From: Phil Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Mz 201 I just got my mz201; a gorgeous little engine. I'm building my 103-legal Fi refly over the Winter and I plan on flying this Spring. Stay tuned. http://phactor.com/Kolb/TestStand2.jpg Phil H. --- On Fri, 12/9/11, mlblank wrote: From: mlblank Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Mz 201 I ordered a firefly quick build 2 weeks ago, and I have yet to decide which engine I am going to use. I am considering using a mz201 because of the dual ignition and less weight than the 447. Does anyone use this engine on a pusher, or know of anyone that has some ho urs experience with the engine. I was told by someone to just go with a 503 because of the dual ignition, s o I talked with Travis at kolb about it and He said guys have put 503's on firefly's , but I probably won't stay under the legal weight for an ultrali ght. So I need to hear some more pro and cons about the mz201 . Thanks, Michael Blank Gap Pa Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360577#360577 le, List Admin. le, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:27:53 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Matronics Web Services Restored! From: "Dennis Thate" [Rolling Eyes] You mean, I'm not the only one !!! That's one inbred cat .... -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern These flying machines are just a fad and will never catch on Unknown Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360584#360584 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/377539_215287418541723_208877045849427_509760_611511678_n_178.jpg ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:34:12 PM PST US From: chris davis Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Mz 201 Phil----Thanks for the comeback , is it as light as they claim? I h ope so talktoyou more as time goes on . Chris=0A=0A=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly=0A=0A=0A____ ____________________________=0AFrom: Phil =0ATo: kolb-l ist@matronics.com =0ASent: Friday, December 9, 2011 8:17 PM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Mz 201=0A=0AI just got my mz201; a gorgeous little engine. I 'm building my 103-legal Firefly over the Winter and I plan on flying this Spring. Stay tuned.=0Ahttp://phactor.com/Kolb/TestStand2.jpg=0A=0APhil H. =0A=0A--- On Fri, 12/9/11, mlblank wrote:=0A=0A=0A>From : mlblank =0A>Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Mz 201=0A>To: kolb -list@matronics.com=0A>Date: Friday, December 9, 2011, 6:56 PM=0A>=0A>=0A>- refly quick build 2 weeks ago, and I have yet to decide which engine I am g oing to use.I am considering using a mz201 because of the dual ignition and less weight than the 447.Does anyone use this engine on a pusher, or know of anyone that has some hours experience with the engine.I was told by some one to just go with a 503 because of the dual ignition, so I talked with Tr avis at kolb about it and He said guys have put 503's on firefly's , but I probably won't stay under the legal weight for an ultralight.So I need to h ear some more pro and cons about the mz201 .Thanks, Michael BlankGap PaRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=36057 7#360577http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navi gator?Kolb-List http:================== ======================== ======================== ====== ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:47:24 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Perplexed turns to Bummed From: Richard Girard I flipped the motor mount over and had high hopes that I would at least get some response in changing the right yaw, and take some of the pressure off my poor beleaguered left leg. No such luck, no improvement whatsoever, so the straight motor mount and the big trim tab have to go back on. Maybe with the yaw string, I'll be able to keep it trimmed up (no pun intended) and do a nice Kolb like approach stall. We'll see. One thing the yaw string has done is make it much easier to keep the airplane flying as it should. Yesterday I finally had confidence enough to try a full flap landing. I had forgotten just how much I missed doing them. It is just so sweet to bring a Kolb in on three and grease it on. Its one of the Kolb MkIII's (C or X) endearing qualities. So, I'll keep on trying to get Ken a nice safe airplane and hang on to that last landing to keep my spirits up while I'm at it. Rick Girard -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:13:10 PM PST US From: william sullivan Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Perplexed turns to Bummed - Rick- I just had an odd thought, but I don't know if it would help.- By any chance, the last time the plane was folded did the wing struts get s wiched side to side?- My Firestar came through with two sets of struts, a nd they weren't marked.- They are slightly different in length, and if it got by unnoticed it might do something.- Stranger things have happened. - When I found out which was which, I marked them. ------------------------- ---------------- Bill Sullivan ------------------------- ---------------- Windsor Locks, Ct. --- On Fri, 12/9/11, Richard Girard wrote: From: Richard Girard Subject: Kolb-List: Perplexed turns to Bummed I flipped the motor mount over and had high hopes that I would at least get some response in changing the right yaw, and take some of the pressure off my poor beleaguered left leg. No such luck, no improvement whatsoever, so the straight motor mount and the big trim tab have to go back on. Maybe wit h the yaw string, I'll be able to keep it trimmed up (no pun intended) and do a nice Kolb like approach stall. We'll see.=0AOne thing the yaw string h as done is make it much easier to keep the airplane flying as it should. Ye sterday I finally had confidence enough to try a full flap landing. I had f orgotten just how much I missed doing them. It is just so sweet to bring a Kolb in on three and grease it on. Its one of the Kolb MkIII's (C or X) end earing qualities. So, I'll keep on trying to get Ken a nice safe airplane a nd hang on to that last landing to keep my spirits up while I'm at it.=0A Rick Girard -- Zulu DeltaMk IIICThanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. =0A- - Groucho Marx =========================0A =0A ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:42:43 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolbra project for sale? From: "tkben002" Best of luck in your search and I hope you find one, just remember there were only 28 Kolbras ever sold. Travis Bennett Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360588#360588 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:50:23 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Matronics Web Services Restored! From: Larry Cottrell Now why would you want to ban yourself? Sorry, couldn't help myself. I somehow missed the email that "bashed" you. Not knowing just what happened or seen the email that caused it, unless it was the cat with its head stuck through a piece of bread, I might venture a guess why some on the list would have cause to be aggravated by your posts. It is very hard to follow your frequent post because you only post your answer, hardly ever to what you are replying or posting about. (Like the one that I have included with my email. see below) When I have to go back and hunt for the reason that you are replying it does on occasion cause a few cuss words on my part. Did I mention that several people have rather politely, I thought, asked you to keep your jokes to yourself, and stick to Kolb related items? You generally endear your self to the list by posting a smart assed remark. Hope I didn't hurt your feelings there, but most people on this list are pretty serious about Kolbs, and get quite enough inane jokes from the people that we know and like. repectfully Larry Cottrell On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Dennis Thate wrote : > > Hi Matt, > > Many forums have an 'Ignore feature' for the 'few' who always seem to > become forum pest. I might consider donating if this feature existed on > your forum. I came here to share knowledge and make new friends, not to b e > publicly bashed! > > Regards, > Dennis Thate > Kolb Firestar II > > -------- > Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist > invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern > > =85=94These flying machines are just a fad and will never catch on=85=94 Unknown > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360537#360537 > > =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:15:46 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Perplexed turns to Bummed I flipped the motor mount over and had high hopes that I would at least get some response in changing the right yaw, and take some of the pressure off my poor beleaguered left leg. No such luck, no improvement whatsoever Rick Girard I believe the long, wide nose pod on the Xtra adversely affects yaw when not kept exactly in yaw trim. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:27:52 PM PST US From: Arksey@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: RE: aileron hinge wire Hi all, It has turned winter up here in Michigan and the other day I decided to take the firestar out of the hangar and fold it up and store it in the pole barn for the winter...when I laid the tip of the left wing on the ground I noticed the outboard aileron hinge seemed to move alot...when I looked at it to my surprise the wire was gone from the hinge.....this made me nervous even thou I was standing on the ground...when constructed each end of the hinge had been compressed to hold the hinge wire in place....I always do a preflight inspection but may have missed it....the last time I flew I did not notice any problem.....the wire may have come out it the air ...or after I landed when taxing back to the hangar....who knows...just thought I would pass this info on to show you how important preflight inspection is...or can be....jswan Jim Swan Kolb Firestar ll, 503 Rotax , 6147 Wilcox Rd., Eaton Rapids, Mi 48827 ph 517-663-8488 GPS GPS FOR MY RUNWAY N 42 deg 28.581 W084deg 44.825 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 08:34:52 PM PST US From: william sullivan Subject: Re: Kolb-List: RE: aileron hinge wire - Jim- Whoever built my old Firestar drilled and safety wired both ends o f the hinges.- I don't know which way is recommended.- Lucky catch! ------------------------- ------------------- Bill Sullivan ------------------------- ------------------- Windsor locks, Ct .. ------------------------- ------------------- FS 447 --- On Fri, 12/9/11, Arksey@aol.com wrote: From: Arksey@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: RE: aileron hinge wire =0A=0A =0A =0A=0AHi all,=0A--- It has turned winter up here in Michig an and the other =0Aday I decided to take the firestar out of the hangar an d fold it up and store it =0Ain the pole barn for the winter...when I laid the tip of the left wing on the =0Aground I noticed the outboard aileron hi nge seemed to move alot...when I looked =0Aat it to my surprise the wire wa s gone from the hinge.....this made me nervous =0Aeven thou I was standing on the ground...when constructed each end of the hinge =0Ahad been compress ed to hold the hinge wire in place....I always do a preflight =0Ainspection but may have missed it....the last time I flew I did not notice any =0Apro blem.....the wire may have come out it the air ...or after I landed when =0Ataxing back to the hangar....who knows...just thought I would pass this info on =0Ato show you how important preflight inspection is...or can be... .jswan=0A-=0AJim Swan Kolb =0AFirestar ll, 503 Rotax , 6147 Wilcox Rd., E aton Rapids, Mi 48827 ph 517-663-8488 =0AGPS GPS FOR MY RUNWAY N 42 deg 28. ======0A=0A ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 08:45:07 PM PST US From: Herb Gayheart Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Mz 201 Wonder how it will cool in a pusher configuration? Herb At 07:03 PM 12/9/2011, you wrote: >Michael, I am in the same boat you are have a Firefly half built and >I flew a firestar with a 503 for 10 years trouble free and I am fond >of the dual spark Travis tells mre they are working on an engine >mount for a mz 201 , maybe for you but the engine sounds good >weight wise and power wise I have been looking for someone that has >been using it for about a month with no luck ! its expensive but so >are the 447 and the 503 ! I am trying to save weight as I will need >extra controls as I cant use my feet . Stay in touch, Im here every >day . Chris >Chris Davis >KXP 503 492 hrs >Glider Pilot >Disabled from crash building Firefly >From: mlblank >To: kolb-list@matronics.com >Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 6:56 PM >Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Mz 201 > ><mlblank@yahoo.com> > >I ordered a firefly quick build 2 weeks ago, and I have yet to >decide which engine I am going to use. > >I am considering using a mz201 because of the dual ignition and less >weight than the 447. > >Does anyone use this engine on a pusher, or know of anyone that has >some hours experience with the engine. > >I was told by someone to just go with a 503 because of the dual >ignition, so I talked with Travis at kolb about it and He said guys >have put 503's on firefly's , but I probably won't stay under the >legal weight for an ultralight. > >So I need to hear some more pro and cons about the mz201 . >Thanks, Michael Blank >Gap Pa > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtder's Bookstore >wttp://www.homebuilthelp.com/" >target=_blank>www.homebuilthelp.com >nbsp; ======================== >Builder's Bookstore >HomebuiltHELP www.homebuilthelp.com >http://www.matronics.com/contribution >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List >http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.