---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 12/22/11: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:11 AM - Re: Short Short field take off and Landing (Pat Ladd) 2. 04:44 AM - Re: MK3x wings leading edge (william sullivan) 3. 05:42 AM - Re: MK3x wings leading edge (Richard Pike) 4. 09:46 AM - Re: Re: MK3x wings leading edge (Eugene Zimmerman) 5. 10:15 AM - Fw: Brain Study (Gary Aman) 6. 02:27 PM - Rotax 447 fan holding tool (David Kulp) 7. 07:10 PM - Re: Fw: Brain Study (Ron @ KFHU) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:11:16 AM PST US From: "Pat Ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Short Short field take off and Landing While in Fairbanks a few years ago, I went on a river .trip The captain stopped in midstream and called up on a loud hailer a guy sitting next to a Supercub in his riverside back lot. This guy had taken down the fence between his property and his neighbours to make a usable strip. The SuperCub was run up, the pilot opened the throttle and stood the plane on the mains only. He released the brakes, leapt into the air and did the tightest circuit imaginable and landed again. I timed it and as far as I remember the time was about 90 seconds between releasing the brakes and landing again. Incredible Merry Christmas everyone Pat ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:44:36 AM PST US From: william sullivan Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MK3x wings leading edge - Rick- The discussion of putting metal on the leading edge was about two years ago.- I had asked about it, because my Firestar came with two sets of wings.- One had the first 15" or so with a flashing thickness of alum inum under the Stits.- There is no gain to it, and it only adds weight an d additional labor.- John's advice is solid- they work best as Homer desi gned them.- Save yourself the time, weight, money, and labor, and just go stock. - You might find the comments in the archives under "Firestar rebuild". ------------------------- ------------------------- --- Bill Sullivan ------------------------- ------------------------- --- Windsor Locks, Ct. ------------------------- ------------------------- --- FS 447 --- On Thu, 12/22/11, Ron @ KFHU wrote: From: Ron @ KFHU Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MK3x wings leading edge Amazing!!! this is one of the things I have been thinking about, my latest iteration of it is the have fiberglass cloth stretched over it, seems prett y simple and easy, wet it first have it spread between two 1x1 planks of wo od and stretch it over the leading edges and secure the planks with bungi c ords till it cures. Should have a perfect fit. However I do remember a thre ad from a few years ago when that was discussed and the consensus was to no t do it as it would contribute nothing!!! So I don't know which way to go o n this topic. ======================= ---- Rick Lewis wrote: ============ My intentions this summer was to cover my wings but everything else got in the way so nothing happened.- Now it's cold weather and I will be bringin g my uncovered wings back home to work on.- That's really pittiful if you stop and think about it.- It took me only 3 weeks to build them and now it's been over a years since I've touched them.- - [Embarassed]-- - - ---I have had two mechanics ask me if I was planning on sheeting the leading edge of the wings several inches back, before covering.- I to ld them no but it has gotten me to thinking about this.- I can see some r easons for this but what do you guy's think.- It would be easy enough to do and would add very little weight.- This would also make and easy bondi ng area for the cloth. -------- Rick Lewis (VW Watercooled Engine) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=361420#361420 -- kugelair.com le, List Admin. le, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:42:47 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: MK3x wings leading edge From: "Richard Pike" Rick Lewis wrote: > I have had two mechanics ask me if I was planning on sheeting the leading edge of the wings several inches back, before covering. I told them no but it has gotten me to thinking about this. I can see some reasons for this but what do you guy's think. It would be easy enough to do and would add very little weight. This would also make and easy bonding area for the cloth. Total waste of time and money. If it only adds 2 pounds, it's still a waste of time and money. As far as bonding area for the cloth - you will get all the bonding area you need when you wrap the cloth around the leading edge. -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=361466#361466 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:46:53 AM PST US From: Eugene Zimmerman Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: MK3x wings leading edge Yup, and not only that , but even the slightest little bump and you have a permanent unsightly ding. On Dec 22, 2011, at 8:40 AM, Richard Pike wrote: > Total waste of time and money. If it only adds 2 pounds, it's still a waste of time and money. As far as bonding area for the cloth - you will get all the bonding area you need when you wrap the cloth around the leading edge. > > -------- > Richard Pike > Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org > Kingsport, TN 3TN0 > Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. > Hebrews 11:1 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:15:27 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Fwd: Brain Study From: Gary Aman I figure every Kolb owner/operator can do this if he can read a weather br ief. Brain Study.... Wow! It took me a few seconds, but then I got the hang of it... I=99ve seen this with the letters out of order, but this is the first time I=99ve seen it with numbers. F1gur471v3ly 5p34k1ng? Good example of a Brain Study: If you can read this you have a strong mind: 7H15 M3554G3 53RV35 7O PR0V3 H0W 0UR M1ND5 C4N D0 4M4Z1NG 7H1NG5! 1MPR3551V 3 7H1NG5! 1N 7H3 B3G1NN1NG 17 WA5 H4RD BU7 N0W, 0N 7H15 LIN3 Y0UR M1ND 1S R 34D1NG 17 4U70M471C4LLY W17H 0U7 3V3N 7H1NK1NG 4B0U7 17, B3 PROUD! 0NLY C3R 741N P30PL3 C4N R3AD 7H15. PL3453 F0RW4RD 1F U C4N R34D 7H15. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:27:09 PM PST US From: David Kulp Subject: Kolb-List: Rotax 447 fan holding tool I need to adjust the fan belt on my 447 and need a $20 plus S&H fan holding tool to loosen the bolt. I also must wait for delivery and may miss the few remaining flying days before the deep freeze and snow drifts bring it to an end. Has anyone devised a homemade tool to hold the fan? If so I'd sure appreciate knowing how you did it. Thanks, Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA FireFly 11DMK ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:10:05 PM PST US From: "Ron @ KFHU" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fwd: Brain Study 1ats k8uht Ron @ KFHU ================ ---- Gary Aman wrote: ============ I figure every Kolb owner/operator can do this if he can read a weather brief. Brain Study.... Wow! It took me a few seconds, but then I got the hang of it... Ive seen this with the letters out of order, but this is the first time Ive seen it with numbers. F1gur471v3ly 5p34k1ng? Good example of a Brain Study: If you can read this you have a strong mind: 7H15 M3554G3 53RV35 7O PR0V3 H0W 0UR M1ND5 C4N D0 4M4Z1NG 7H1NG5! 1MPR3551V3 7H1NG5! 1N 7H3 B3G1NN1NG 17 WA5 H4RD BU7 N0W, 0N 7H15 LIN3 Y0UR M1ND 1S R34D1NG 17 4U70M471C4LLY W17H 0U7 3V3N 7H1NK1NG 4B0U7 17, B3 PROUD! 0NLY C3R741N P30PL3 C4N R3AD 7H15. 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