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1. 01:11 AM - Firefly Instrument panel (JC Gilpin)
2. 07:17 AM - Re: Looks like a great motor is being designed (Richard Girard)
3. 07:33 AM - Re: Looks like a great motor is being designed (Jerry Deckard)
4. 07:37 AM - Re: Looks like a great motor is being designed (william sullivan)
5. 02:46 PM - FW: Mark IIIXtra (John Hauck)
6. 03:29 PM - Re: Looks like a great motor is being designed (Richard Girard)
7. 03:59 PM - Re: Looks like a great motor is being designed (Ron @ KFHU)
8. 06:52 PM - Re: Looks like a great motor is being designed (Jack B. Hart)
9. 08:12 PM - Re: Looks like a great motor is being designed (Ron @ KFHU)
10. 10:00 PM - Rotax ends production of the 503 ?? (AtomicDog)
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| Subject: | Firefly Instrument panel |
>*Also I see something **called a flycutter but have no experience with
that either.*<
A flycutter works really well on fiberglass, plastic, or even .016
aluminum, if used by hand. Just drill the center hole, then work the
flycutter by hand, scoring all round in overlapping sections. Very
controllable and safe. Just keep working around deeper and deeper.
Cleanest result is if you can do the last cuts from the backside.
Done it many times.
JG
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| Subject: | Re: Looks like a great motor is being designed |
Ron, Sounds great until you get to this;
Transmission
Motus 6-speed sequential gearbox; unit construction; wet multiplate clutch
You either have to cart around a bunch of gears you don't need or cut up
the block and do a lot of welding and machining on a new engine.
Rick Girard
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Ron @ KFHU <captainron1@cox.net> wrote:
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> http://www.motusmotorcycles.com/kmv4.html
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> I guess I can only wonder about it at this stage.
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| Subject: | Re: Looks like a great motor is being designed |
I think the transmission is a bolt on, meaning a reduction unit could be
bolted to it.
Jerry
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From: Richard Girard
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Looks like a great motor is being designed
Ron, Sounds great until you get to this;
Transmission
Motus 6-speed sequential gearbox; unit construction; wet multiplate
clutch
You either have to cart around a bunch of gears you don't need or cut
up the block and do a lot of welding and machining on a new engine.
Rick Girard
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Ron @ KFHU <captainron1@cox.net>
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| Subject: | Re: Looks like a great motor is being designed |
- Two other things.- I don't see a weight on it, and isn't that too muc
h HP?
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--- On Wed, 12/28/11, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Looks like a great motor is being designed
Ron, Sounds great until you get to this;
Transmission
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Rick Girard
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| Subject: | FW: Mark IIIXtra |
Done.
john
From: Clay Stuart [mailto:tcstuart@roadrunner.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 12:35 PM
Subject: Mark IIIXtra
John,
Can you forward this to the Kolb chat line? Thanks. This
is one of the earlier kits that had separate flaps and
ailerons.
Subject: Mark IIIXtra
I purchased the kits for this plane in Oct 2000 and March
2001. Invoices 2432 and 3267 (total $11783). I have
assembled the kit and the next step is fabric and engine. I
have dual custom-made aluminum tanks (pressure tested)
approximately 7 gallons each. I have seats installed and
the interior carpeted. I have not worked on this project in
over 7 years since the Labhart fatality. I would like to
know if there is a market for this plane other than
advertising on Barnstormers?
Thanks,
Clay Stuart
Danville KY
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| Subject: | Re: Looks like a great motor is being designed |
Jerry, Unit construction is the motorcycle term for transmission and engine
cases are one and the same.
Rick Girard
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Jerry Deckard <flypoker@windstream.net>wrote:
> **
> I think the transmission is a bolt on, meaning a reduction unit could be
> bolted to it.
> Jerry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
> *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 28, 2011 9:14 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: Looks like a great motor is being designed
>
> Ron, Sounds great until you get to this;
>
> Transmission
> Motus 6-speed sequential gearbox; unit construction; wet multiplate clutch
>
>
> You either have to cart around a bunch of gears you don't need or cut up
> the block and do a lot of welding and machining on a new engine.
>
> Rick Girard
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Ron @ KFHU <captainron1@cox.net> wrote:
>
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> Thanks, Homer GBYM
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| From: | "Ron @ KFHU" <captainron1@cox.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Looks like a great motor is being designed |
Is there a big downside, or for that matter any downside to taking the gears out
and rigging something directly to the drive shaft?
Never had the chance to look into a Honda or BMW so I really have no idea what
it looks like in there. It does look compact.
If that case sans the gears is only a couple of extra pounds it may be doable
emphasis on maybe.
All of this is theoretical, and the way they are talking about their motor and
bike it may not be less expensive than many purpose built av-motors.
I don't know why someone after going to the trouble of designing a motor and all
of that cannot conceive that the motor itself may be more valuable than the
bike. DOD drones and all sorts of stuff like that comes to mind.
---- Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
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Jerry, Unit construction is the motorcycle term for transmission and engine
cases are one and the same.
Rick Girard
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Jerry Deckard <flypoker@windstream.net>wrote:
> **
> I think the transmission is a bolt on, meaning a reduction unit could be
> bolted to it.
> Jerry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
> *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 28, 2011 9:14 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: Looks like a great motor is being designed
>
> Ron, Sounds great until you get to this;
>
> Transmission
> Motus 6-speed sequential gearbox; unit construction; wet multiplate clutch
>
>
> You either have to cart around a bunch of gears you don't need or cut up
> the block and do a lot of welding and machining on a new engine.
>
> Rick Girard
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Ron @ KFHU <captainron1@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> http://www.motusmotorcycles.com/kmv4.html
>>
>> I guess I can only wonder about it at this stage.
>>
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> Zulu Delta
> Mk IIIC
> Thanks, Homer GBYM
>
> It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
> - Groucho Marx
>
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| Subject: | Re: Looks like a great motor is being designed |
From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
>
Jerry, Unit construction is the motorcycle term for transmission and engine
cases are one and the same.
>
Rick,
If you go to the site and view the engine development video you will see
that it is a stand alone engine.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
do not archive
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| From: | "Ron @ KFHU" <captainron1@cox.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Looks like a great motor is being designed |
thanks Jack
I guess I should have looked at the video instead of reading just the spec sheet.
Now there is promise. :-)
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---- "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net> wrote:
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From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
>
Jerry, Unit construction is the motorcycle term for transmission and engine
cases are one and the same.
>
Rick,
If you go to the site and view the engine development video you will see
that it is a stand alone engine.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Rotax ends production of the 503 ?? |
If you are planning to mount a Rotax 503 on your project you should purchase soon.
Speaking of great engines, this is one. However Rotax will not be manufacturing
any new 503's. Something about worn out molds or something.
Larry
Building Firestar II
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