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1. 12:44 PM - Re: Rotax ends production of the 503 ?? (stogie6)
2. 01:27 PM - Grand Rapids EIS 2000 (t41pilot)
3. 01:55 PM - Re: Grand Rapids EIS 2000 (Michael Welch)
4. 02:03 PM - Re: Grand Rapids EIS 2000 (HShack@aol.com)
5. 02:21 PM - Re: Grand Rapids EIS 2000 (kinne russ)
6. 02:29 PM - Re: Grand Rapids EIS 2000 (Richard Girard)
7. 02:39 PM - Re: Grand Rapids EIS 2000 (b young)
8. 02:53 PM - Re: Grand Rapids EIS 2000 (t41pilot)
9. 03:15 PM - Re: Grand Rapids EIS 2000 (Charlie England)
10. 03:32 PM - Re: Re: Grand Rapids EIS 2000 (Michael Welch)
11. 06:17 PM - Re: Grand Rapids EIS 2000 (t41pilot)
12. 06:18 PM - Re: Grand Rapids EIS 2000 (t41pilot)
13. 06:26 PM - Re: Re: Grand Rapids EIS 2000 (HShack@aol.com)
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Subject: | Re: Rotax ends production of the 503 ?? |
What about parts availability? My guess is that we will still be able to get parts
and service for our 503s.
I am new to this sport and still have tons to learn - but getting there!
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Subject: | Grand Rapids EIS 2000 |
I'm about to order a Grand Rapids EIS model 2000 to monitor a new rotax 447. It
comes standard with a hose clamp style probe for monitoring exhaust gas with
a threaded one as an option at additional cost. Is there any benefit to getting
the threaded one as far as accuracy of the measurement or is is it just a
matter of asthetics? I'm assuming I would have to drill a hole and tap it for
the threaded one. I don't have the exhaust here at the house so I don't know
what it is made out of or the ease of tapping it. Any thoughts would be appreciated
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Gregg Kaat
2011 Firefly
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Subject: | Re: Grand Rapids EIS 2000 |
Gregg,
No, a threaded style isn't just a drill and tap proposition. If you were to
go with a threaded style probe,
you'd need to weld a "bung" on you exhaust pipe. The bung is what O2 sensors,
etc, etc, screw into.
I suppose if you found the right nut size, (for your probe threads),you could drill
a slightly oversize
probe hole, and weld on the nut.
For the hassle, most people just use the drilled hole style, that uses a band
clamp. The accuracy is
probably within 2% of either style. Probe depth accuracy is more of a determiner
of temp reading, rather
than style.
Mike Welch
Never known for doing things the easy way. I welded on the bung for my Auber Instruments
EGT probe.
Wasn't the easy way, but sure is solid as h.....
On Jan 5, 2012, at 3:20 PM, t41pilot wrote:
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It comes standard with a hose clamp style probe for monitoring exhaust gas with
a threaded one as an option at additional cost. Is there any benefit to getting
the threaded one as far as accuracy of the measurement or is is it just
a matter of asthetics? I'm assuming I would have to drill a hole and tap it for
the threaded one. I don't have the exhaust here at the house so I don't know
what it is made out of or the ease of tapping it. Any thoughts would be appreciated
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Subject: | Re: Grand Rapids EIS 2000 |
The manifold probably has two tapped bosses for the probe. Get the
threaded probes; looks much better.
In a message dated 1/5/2012 4:27:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
t41pilot@frontier.com writes:
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I'm about to order a Grand Rapids EIS model 2000 to monitor a new rotax
447. It comes standard with a hose clamp style probe for monitoring exhaust
gas with a threaded one as an option at additional cost. Is there any
benefit to getting the threaded one as far as accuracy of the measurement or is
is it just a matter of asthetics? I'm assuming I would have to drill a
hole and tap it for the threaded one. I don't have the exhaust here at the
house so I don't know what it is made out of or the ease of tapping it. Any
thoughts would be appreciated
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Gregg Kaat
2011 Firefly
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Subject: | Re: Grand Rapids EIS 2000 |
Gregg
What's the matter with the hose-clamp type of EGT sensor? I used one for over 2000
ours in a Lycoming without a bit of trouble.
Easy to pull & inspect the probe at anytime with no stress on the probe.
Russ K
do not archive
On Jan 5, 2012, at 4:20 PM, t41pilot wrote:
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It comes standard with a hose clamp style probe for monitoring exhaust gas with
a threaded one as an option at additional cost. Is there any benefit to getting
the threaded one as far as accuracy of the measurement or is is it just
a matter of asthetics? I'm assuming I would have to drill a hole and tap it for
the threaded one. I don't have the exhaust here at the house so I don't know
what it is made out of or the ease of tapping it. Any thoughts would be appreciated
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Subject: | Re: Grand Rapids EIS 2000 |
I second the vote for threaded probes. Your manifold may have the bungs
already, the last 447 I sold did. The hole for the hose clamp style is a
great crack starter.
Rick Girard
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 3:58 PM, <HShack@aol.com> wrote:
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> threaded probes; looks much better.
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> t41pilot@frontier.com writes:
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> I'm about to order a Grand Rapids EIS model 2000 to monitor a new rotax
> 447. It comes standard with a hose clamp style probe for monitoring
> exhaust gas with a threaded one as an option at additional cost. Is there
> any benefit to getting the threaded one as far as accuracy of the
> measurement or is is it just a matter of asthetics? I'm assuming I would
> have to drill a hole and tap it for the threaded one. I don't have the
> exhaust here at the house so I don't know what it is made out of or the
> ease of tapping it. Any thoughts would be appreciated
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> 2011 Firefly
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Subject: | Re: Grand Rapids EIS 2000 |
I'm about to order a Grand Rapids EIS model 2000 to monitor a new rotax
447. It comes standard with a hose clamp style probe for monitoring
exhaust gas with a threaded one as an option at additional cost. Is
there any benefit to getting the threaded one as far as accuracy of the
measurement or is is it just a matter of asthetics? I'm assuming I would
have to drill a hole and tap it for the threaded one. I don't have the
exhaust here at the house so I don't know what it is made out of or the
ease of tapping it. Any thoughts would be appreciated
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Gregg Kaat
2011 Firefly
i helped a friend with a threaded one,,, and the threads were,, shall i
say extremely hard to remove,,,i am sure some high temp anti seize would
have been the thing to do,,,, i have the type with the hose clamp,,,
726.1 hours and still on tight, with no problems.
boyd young
mkiii 912
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Subject: | Re: Grand Rapids EIS 2000 |
OK, I found out the exhaust manifold is already tapped at the proper locations
at the factory for the probes. Would the clamp on style still use these same
holes or would these holes have to be sealed and new ones drilled?
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Gregg Kaat
2011 Firefly
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Subject: | Re: Grand Rapids EIS 2000 |
On 01/05/2012 03:20 PM, t41pilot wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "t41pilot"<t41pilot@frontier.com>
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> I'm about to order a Grand Rapids EIS model 2000 to monitor a new rotax 447.
It comes standard with a hose clamp style probe for monitoring exhaust gas with
a threaded one as an option at additional cost. Is there any benefit to getting
the threaded one as far as accuracy of the measurement or is is it just
a matter of asthetics? I'm assuming I would have to drill a hole and tap it for
the threaded one. I don't have the exhaust here at the house so I don't know
what it is made out of or the ease of tapping it. Any thoughts would be appreciated
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> Gregg Kaat
> 2011 Firefly
Hi Gregg,
Are you interested in a used one, minus the probes? I have an extra one
that is in good working order. I'll try to make you a good deal on it.
I'm walking out the door now & can't check prices, etc until after lunch
tomorrow, but if you're interested, send me an email or give me a call
tomorrow after 2:00 PM.
Charlie
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Subject: | Re: Grand Rapids EIS 2000 |
Gregg,
No, a clamp-on style EGT probe depends of the expanded ring of the base of the
probe being pressed firmly against
the pipe(by the clamp)....not on top of some threaded mounting boss. Since you
do the the factory threaded bosses, you're in bidness.
Yes, if you were to STILL want to go with a clamp-on style, I am fairly certain
you'd have to plug the existing
threaded hole....and then drill the proper tight hole for the probe to insert into.
But then one would ask "Why?!"
If you have the threaded boss, why would you even care about how a clamp style
mounts? Although many
guys have had millions of hours on the clamp-on style without any bad tendencies,
certainly a threaded mount is a
heckava lot more solid.....and you already have the mount!!
Mike
On Jan 5, 2012, at 4:47 PM, t41pilot wrote:
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at the factory for the probes. Would the clamp on style still use these same
holes or would these holes have to be sealed and new ones drilled?
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> 2011 Firefly
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Subject: | Re: Grand Rapids EIS 2000 |
Thanks Mike..Sounds like that is the direction to go.[/quote]
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Gregg Kaat
2011 Firefly
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Subject: | Re: Grand Rapids EIS 2000 |
Thanks Mike..Sounds like that is the direction to go.
> If you have the threaded boss, why would you even care about how a clamp style
mounts? Although many
> guys have had millions of hours on the clamp-on style without any bad tendencies,
certainly a threaded mount is a
> heckava lot more solid.....and you already have the mount!!
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> Mike
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Gregg Kaat
2011 Firefly
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Subject: | Re: Grand Rapids EIS 2000 |
The manifold should have plugs in the bosses already from the factory.
In a message dated 1/5/2012 5:53:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
t41pilot@frontier.com writes:
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OK, I found out the exhaust manifold is already tapped at the proper
locations at the factory for the probes. Would the clamp on style still use
these same holes or would these holes have to be sealed and new ones drilled?
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Gregg Kaat
2011 Firefly
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