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1. 03:01 AM - Re: Everglades flight (Watkinsdw)
2. 03:07 AM - [Autoreply] Re: Re: Everglades flight ()
3. 10:17 AM - Re: Re: Everglades flight (Ron @ KFHU)
4. 11:25 AM - (riquenkelly@aol.com)
5. 01:02 PM - Re: Re: Everglades flight (Martin Koxxy)
6. 02:12 PM - Re: Re: Everglades flight (Dana Hague)
7. 06:39 PM - Re: Everglades flight (Richard Pike)
8. 09:23 PM - Re: Re: Everglades flight (Martin Koxxy)
9. 09:51 PM - Re: Re: Everglades flight (Sky Biker)
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| Subject: | Re: Everglades flight |
Thanks for the additional info on Airglades.
My experience has been that if you listen to Unicom on the way in, you can work
around the jumpers.
As far as the attitude about experimentals, I have heard the same thing. They seem
to prefer general aviation. However, there are at least five hangers in the
hands of experimentals- two drifters, a challenger and a Titan, plus a couple
others.
Can't beat the rent around here if you prefer not to fold.
Finally, there are lots of emergency landing sites in that area, unlike my neck
of the woods...
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| Subject: | Re: Everglades flight |
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| From: | "Ron @ KFHU" <captainron1@cox.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Everglades flight |
Lol; the thought occurred to me that the reason they maybe annoyed with experimentals
is that someone may have rubbed someone the wrong away at some distant
past time, and it started the we are better they they are complex. Jumpers and
experimenters are close in personality traits, both go up not knowing the shape
they will be in when they are back on the ground. Both groups in general like
beer, so buying a beer or maybe Sarsaparilla if they are so inclined may just
get them to decide its better to fly a Kolb, or maybe jump out of one than
kibbitz slights. :-)
Using radios on the Unicom friq in many cases will stop the jumper pilot from getting
ticked off and blaming the "experimental" for delay$ in jump$.
Ron Mason
Still @ KFHU
---- Watkinsdw <david.watkins0@gmail.com> wrote:
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Thanks for the additional info on Airglades.
My experience has been that if you listen to Unicom on the way in, you can work
around the jumpers.
As far as the attitude about experimentals, I have heard the same thing. They seem
to prefer general aviation. However, there are at least five hangers in the
hands of experimentals- two drifters, a challenger and a Titan, plus a couple
others.
Can't beat the rent around here if you prefer not to fold.
Finally, there are lots of emergency landing sites in that area, unlike my neck
of the woods...
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=362912#362912
--
kugelair.com
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| Subject: | Re: Everglades flight |
My FBO here was quite frank about it: Certified GA customers tend to buy
his avgas and use his A&P services, so he moves those customers to the top
of his hangar waiting list.
For price comparison: a regular size, fairly new T-hangar would go for $250
to $275 / month, including AC power. 2500' narrow runway (but also no
waiting for clearance!), 30 minutes from downtown Portland, OR.
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Ron @ KFHU <captainron1@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
> Lol; the thought occurred to me that the reason they maybe annoyed with
> experimentals is that someone may have rubbed someone the wrong away at
> some distant past time, and it started the we are better they they are
> complex. Jumpers and experimenters are close in personality traits, both go
> up not knowing the shape they will be in when they are back on the ground.
> Both groups in general like beer, so buying a beer or maybe Sarsaparilla if
> they are so inclined may just get them to decide its better to fly a Kolb,
> or maybe jump out of one than kibbitz slights. :-)
>
> Using radios on the Unicom friq in many cases will stop the jumper pilot
> from getting ticked off and blaming the "experimental" for delay$ in jump$.
>
> Ron Mason
> Still @ KFHU
>
>
> ---- Watkinsdw <david.watkins0@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ============
>
> Thanks for the additional info on Airglades.
> My experience has been that if you listen to Unicom on the way in, you can
> work around the jumpers.
> As far as the attitude about experimentals, I have heard the same thing.
> They seem to prefer general aviation. However, there are at least five
> hangers in the hands of experimentals- two drifters, a challenger and a
> Titan, plus a couple others.
> Can't beat the rent around here if you prefer not to fold.
> Finally, there are lots of emergency landing sites in that area, unlike my
> neck of the woods...
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=362912#362912
>
>
> --
> kugelair.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Everglades flight |
At 03:58 PM 1/10/2012, Martin Koxxy wrote:
>My FBO here was quite frank about it: Certified GA customers tend to buy
>his avgas and use his A&P services, so he moves those customers to the top
>of his hangar waiting list.
Can't blame him at all...
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: Everglades flight |
koxxy wrote:
> My FBO here was quite frank about it: Certified GA customers tend to buy his
avgas and use his A&P services, so he moves those customers to the top of his
hangar waiting list.
>
That may be illegal. If there is discrimination based on who spends the most money,
the FAA can pull any airport funds that they may be getting. The threat of
that may balance the playing field.
Check out FAR 5190.6, and especially this paragraph:
http://www.faa.gov/airports/resources/publications/orders/compliance_5190_6/media/5190_6b_chap9.pdf
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Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Hebrews 11:1
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| Subject: | Re: Everglades flight |
Thanks, Richard - I had no idea this is regulated to this degree. I'm not
sure if this particular airport receives federal funding, but it does not
look like that would be a necessary requirement.
In my case, though, I will be dependent on the FBO's help and support, and
I'd hate to jeopardize our otherwise good relationship by filing a
complaint. Besides, I cannot afford the hangar rent anyway. But this is
important information for others looking for a hangar.
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> wrote:
>
>
> koxxy wrote:
> > My FBO here was quite frank about it: Certified GA customers tend to buy
> his avgas and use his A&P services, so he moves those customers to the top
> of his hangar waiting list.
> >
>
>
> That may be illegal. If there is discrimination based on who spends the
> most money, the FAA can pull any airport funds that they may be getting.
> The threat of that may balance the playing field.
> Check out FAR 5190.6, and especially this paragraph:
>
> http://www.faa.gov/airports/resources/publications/orders/compliance_5190_6/media/5190_6b_chap9.pdf
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
> Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not
> seen.
> Hebrews 11:1
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=363005#363005
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Everglades flight |
Yes Airglades does and has gotten federal funding and is run but the count
ry. They are in the process of working to get commerial freight haulers to
use the airport as a hub.
The Gyro club had a leased club house at the La Belle airport which is als
o run by the county. They had they monthy fly-in there for several years.wi
th good turn outs. The county would not renew the lease and tore the buildi
ng down. I might ad the airport board are all older GA and look down on our
type of aircraft. Five or six years ago they was close to 30 UL's and heav
y UL's not including gryo's and now maybe a little more than a hand full be
tween the two airports.
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Everglades flight
From: martinkoxxy@gmail.com
Thanks=2C Richard - I had no idea this is regulated to this degree. I'm not
sure if this particular airport receives federal funding=2C but it does no
t look like that would be a necessary requirement.
In my case=2C though=2C I will be dependent on the FBO's help and support
=2C and I'd hate to jeopardize our otherwise good relationship by filing a
complaint. Besides=2C I cannot afford the hangar rent anyway. But this is i
mportant information for others looking for a hangar.
On Tue=2C Jan 10=2C 2012 at 6:36 PM=2C Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>
wrote:
koxxy wrote:
> My FBO here was quite frank about it: Certified GA customers tend to buy
his avgas and use his A&P services=2C so he moves those customers to the to
p of his hangar waiting list.
>
That may be illegal. If there is discrimination based on who spends the mos
t money=2C the FAA can pull any airport funds that they may be getting. The
threat of that may balance the playing field.
Check out FAR 5190.6=2C and especially this paragraph:
http://www.faa.gov/airports/resources/publications/orders/compliance_5190_6
/media/5190_6b_chap9.pdf
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org
Kingsport=2C TN 3TN0
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for=2C the evidence of things no
t seen.
Hebrews 11:1
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