---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 01/12/12: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:38 AM - Re: Registration/Airworthiness (b young) 2. 08:37 AM - Re: Registration/Airworthiness (Ozarkflyer) 3. 10:45 AM - Re: Everglades flight (gotime242) 4. 02:14 PM - Re: Kolb list Malware ? (Dallas Shepherd) 5. 02:20 PM - Malware (Lanny Fetterman) 6. 02:35 PM - Re: Kolb list Malware ? (Pat Ladd) 7. 03:08 PM - Re: Kolb list Malware ? (Malcolm Brubaker) 8. 03:20 PM - Re: Kolb list Malware ? (pcking) 9. 03:22 PM - Re: Re: Everglades flight (Ron @ KFHU) 10. 03:32 PM - auto replies (Gary Aman) 11. 06:21 PM - Re: [Autoreply] Re: [Autoreply] Re: [Autoreply] Re: [Autoreply] Re: [Autoreply] Re: (Charlie England) 12. 06:28 PM - Postmortem - List Melt Down Thursday 01/12/12... (Matt Dralle) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:38:09 AM PST US From: "b young" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Registration/Airworthiness I have an acquaintance that has a experimental project he wants to sell me. It had, at one time, a N number and a application for an airworthiness certificate. The project was de-registered and I don't think an actual certificate was ever issued. To get a certificate will I have to provide all build logs, receipts, etc. (not available) and is this something I should steer clear of? -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE find out why the paperwork was never completed,,, if the faa has red flagged something,, it may come back to be a bigger problem than you want. i would have to go back and see, but i think when you certify a plane as home built experimental, you have to declare that no part of the plane had been certified/registered before. so before you jump into the project, make sure of the wording and make sure you are comfortable with what you have to sign your name to. now on the other hand, if he had only reserved a tail number, but never completed the paperwork, then there may not be a problem,,, as far as the builder logs,,, have the pervious owner sign a document explaining what happened to the builders log or why he did not have one to give you when you bought the project. and that the construction of the plane did meet the requirements. ask him if he has construction photos or any thing he could provide that may help. check on the internet and see if you can find out the status of the n number. you may have to call the faa for more details. because if it never went through it may not have been posted. if you call the faa,,, you may be told there is no problems... or worse case you may make it harder for him to sell it to anyone else,, the call may raise a red flag and put the faa on alert for the project. good luck boyd young ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:37:13 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Registration/Airworthiness From: "Ozarkflyer" My acquaintance is the second owner of the project and in doing a search of the N number, it indicates that it was de-registered. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=363173#363173 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:45:43 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Everglades flight From: "gotime242" I kept my kolb at a hangar at Lantana airport in west palm beach. Hangar prices are insane in S Fl, but you might be able to get into where I kept mine with the wings folded for 200/month. Lantana is a nice uncontrolled field with three runways, where there are experimentals flying around often. Let me know if that interests you at all. Dylanshine@gmail.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=363213#363213 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:14:50 PM PST US From: "Dallas Shepherd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb list Malware ? ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:20:52 PM PST US From: Lanny Fetterman Subject: Kolb-List: Malware Yea, I`m getting them also. I just rerouted them right into my trash. Probably not the best answer, but it has worked so far. Lanny FSII do not archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:35:14 PM PST US From: "Pat Ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb list Malware ? Today I'm getting hundreds of messages from >> Yes. I am in the UK Pat ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:08:20 PM PST US From: Malcolm Brubaker Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb list Malware ? do not clik any of the emails. no idea where they are from---- =0Aw e received hundreds of "auto reply"------------- ssaggio Automatico.=0ASiamo spiacenti ma la presente casella non =E8 pi=F9 attiva.=0APer comunicazioni si prega di contattare l'arch. Roberta Bassi al l'indirizzo rbassi@politecnica.it.=0AGrazie.=0A=0AAutomatic reply.=0ASorry, this mailbox is inactive.=0APlease forward any message to arch. Roberta Ba ssi at rbassi@politecnica.it.=0AThank you.=0A=0AMalcolm & Jeanne Brubaker =0AMichigan Sport Pilot Repair =0ALSRM-A, PPC, WS=0AGreat Sails - Sailmaker =0Afor Ultralight & Light Sport=0A(989)513-3022=0A=0AFrom: Pat Ladd =0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 5:31 PM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb list Malware ?=0A=0A=0ATod ay I'm getting -hundreds of -messages from >>=0A=0AYes. I am in the UK -======================== =================== ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:20:48 PM PST US From: "pcking" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb list Malware ? I blocked the address and sent the autoreplys to my Norton spam folder. Right click the offending email. Click on "is this spam?". Click yes to "block this address?" Periodically you should delete the Norton spam folder. Its easier than dealing with each email individually. ----- Original Message ----- From: Malcolm Brubaker To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 6:05 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb list Malware ? do not clik any of the emails. no idea where they are from we received hundreds of "auto reply" --> Kolb-List message posted by: Messaggio Automatico. Siamo spiacenti ma la presente casella non =E8 pi=F9 attiva. Per comunicazioni si prega di contattare l'arch. Roberta Bassi all'indirizzo rbassi@politecnica.it. Grazie. Automatic reply. Sorry, this mailbox is inactive. Please forward any message to arch. Roberta Bassi at rbassi@politecnica.it. Thank you. Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker Michigan Sport Pilot Repair LSRM-A, PPC, WS Great Sails - Sailmaker for Ultralight & Light Sport (989)513-3022 From: Pat Ladd To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 5:31 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb list Malware ? Today I'm getting hundreds of messages from >> Yes. I am in the UK Pat =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:22:37 PM PST US From: "Ron @ KFHU" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Everglades flight I talk to you when I am there Thanks Ron ---- gotime242 wrote: ============ I kept my kolb at a hangar at Lantana airport in west palm beach. Hangar prices are insane in S Fl, but you might be able to get into where I kept mine with the wings folded for 200/month. Lantana is a nice uncontrolled field with three runways, where there are experimentals flying around often. Let me know if that interests you at all. Dylanshine@gmail.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=363213#363213 -- kugelair.com ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:32:58 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: auto replies From: Gary Aman Listers, Anyone else get 150 auto replies from ctura? ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:21:21 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: [Autoreply] Re: [Autoreply] Re: Kolb-List: [Autoreply] Re: [Autoreply] Re: [Autoreply] Re: There's a simple fix in any decent email client: mark a few as 'junk' or 'spam' (depending on your email client). Then everything from that sender will disappear into your junk/spam folder as soon as it comes in. On 01/12/2012 06:43 PM, russ kinne wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne > > STOP SENDING ME THIS!!!!! > > > On Jan 12, 2012, at 7:38 PM, ctura@politecnica.it wrote: > >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: >> >> Messaggio Automatico. >> Siamo spiacenti ma la presente casella non pi attiva. >> Per comunicazioni si prega di contattare l'arch. Roberta Bassi all'indirizzo rbassi@politecnica.it. >> Grazie. >> >> Automatic reply. >> Sorry, this mailbox is inactive. >> Please forward any message to arch. Roberta Bassi at rbassi@politecnica.it. >> Thank you. >> >> >> -------- >> POLITECNICA Ingegneria e Archiettura SOC.COOP >> Via Galileo Galilei, 220 >> 41126 Modena >> >> tel.++39059356527 >> fax.++39059356087 >> >> postmaster: postmaster@politecnica.it >> >> >> -------------------------------- >> Politecnica aderisce al progetto Impatto Zero di LifeGate. Le emissioni di CO2 generate dalla produzione e stampa di tutto il materiale cartaceo sono state compensate contribuendo alla creazione e tutela di foreste in crescita. >> >> http://www.impattozero.it >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:28:33 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Kolb-List: Postmortem - List Melt Down Thursday 01/12/12... Dear listers, My apologies. I thought that I had caught the auto-responder from "ctura(at)politecnica.it" first thing this morning and had unsubscribed the email address from the List. I wasn't seeing anymore posts coming in my email throughout the morning and felt proud of myself for having caught the outbreak early. Then about 5pm I thought it seemed kind of strange that I hadn't been getting my normal amount of List mail from the Kolb and other lists throughout the day. I went back and looked at my logs and realized that I had removed *MY* email address from all the lists instead of ctura(at)politecnica.it"! What a dork! Hey, I've had the flu all week! Anyway, I've removed the correct address from the List and have gone back and cleaned all of the archives, digest, listbrowse and web forums of all the bogus email so, other than your respective email boxes, things should be back to "normal". What was going on is that the email address "ctura(at)politecnica.it" was subscribed to the Kolb-List, but the account had been closed early this morning. Every time a post was made to the Kolb-List, the auto responder at politecnica.it would send another email back to the list saying the account was closed. Then the auto-responder would see its own message coming back from the List and dutifully send another response. Every time someone posted another message to the list with "STOP ALL THESE MESSAGES" (or whatever), it would start another thread of responses from the auto-responder, exponentially increasing the number of messages being forwarded and send. This would go on until, I guess, the world exploded. The Mayans were right, the end of the world did arrive in 2012. 327 email messages was all it took to knock the earth off its axis... "politecnica.it"'s auto-responder is broken; it should only send a single copy of "this user doesn't exist" to a given source email address. Had it functioned this way, there would have been only one message to the List and people would have mostly not noticed. Sorry for the hassle. 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