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1. 04:50 AM - Re: Re: Altitude/speed control on approach (Pat Ladd)
2. 12:45 PM - Re: Altitude/speed control on approach (gotime242)
3. 07:13 PM - Making touchdown with high thrustline? (Nick Cassara)
4. 07:34 PM - Re: Making touchdown with high thrustline? (John Hauck)
5. 07:38 PM - Re: Re: Altitude/speed control on approach (russ kinne)
6. 08:26 PM - Re: Altitude/speed control on approach (gotime242)
7. 08:56 PM - Re: Making touchdown with high thrustline? (Larry Cottrell)
8. 08:56 PM - Re: Re: Altitude/speed control on approach (John Hauck)
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| Subject: | Re: Altitude/speed control on approach |
How fast we go is whatever the thrust levers are set at.>>
Really?. Nothing to do with attitude then.
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Altitude/speed control on approach |
pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com wrote:
> How fast we go is whatever the thrust levers are set at.>>
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> Really?. Nothing to do with attitude then.
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> Pat
Obviously. It also has to do with a million other variables. All i was saying is
that different airplanes fly differently. And that was just a simple statement
about one of those airplanes.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366547#366547
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| Subject: | Making touchdown with high thrustline? |
John and All,
Forgive me for I have not until recently been following this thread very
closely. My Kolbra is still under construction, so I have only flown, or
ever been in tractors.
If I am on final and can see that I am headed short of my tough down point,
in the Champ I just increase throttle a little for a second and I gain a
little elevation and now I am lined up on touch down point.
So if I am in my Kolbra flying in on approach with, or without power and I
see that I am going to be short of my touchdown point..what would I do?
Thanks,
Nick Cassara
Palmer, AK
Soon to retire and work fulltime on 607AK....!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Subject: | Making touchdown with high thrustline? |
So if I am in my Kolbra flying in on approach with, or without power and I
see that I am going to be short of my touchdown point..what would I do?
Thanks,
Nick Cassara
If I was flying, I am not a flight instructor, my Kolb with power, I'd
probably add a little power. Flying without power, adjust pitch attitude to
extend my glide. If that didn't work...I'd probably say a little prayer and
hope I can make it across the fence. ;-)
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Altitude/speed control on approach |
Pat
Good comment. I think how WELL anyone flies depends almost totally on attitude.
Russ
do not archive
On Feb 18, 2012, at 7:49 AM, Pat Ladd wrote:
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> How fast we go is whatever the thrust levers are set at.>>
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> Really?. Nothing to do with attitude then.
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| Subject: | Re: Altitude/speed control on approach |
russkinne(at)mac.com wrote:
> Pat
> Good comment. I think how WELL anyone flies depends almost totally on attitude.
> Russ
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You guys are not getting what im talking about, and it looks like its not something
ill be able to convey. There are more ways to look at something than the
one.
Of course everything is based off of attitude (angle of attacks), power and a thousand
other things...but thats not what i was saying. I understand and agree
that what the airplane is doing is based off of "attitudes"....however its all
what and how you are flying. If you are on an arrival (level, descending...whatever)
and atc asks you to maintain 310kts, i guarantee you the first thing
you are going do is either add power or reduce it...this will then change the
attitude of the airplane accordingly while you maintain your altitude or rate
of decent. If you are stabilized on an ILS and you want to make minor adjustments
to your speed to make sure to hold Ref or whatever....again...small adjustments
in power settings. If you are level in cruise and ATC asks you to maintain
Mach .80 or greater....are you telling me your going to pitch down to do that?
Power changes = attitude changes....the question is what happens first or what
your primary tool for those changes are based off of what type of flying you are
doing. Many airplanes are attitude airplanes, but some are flown by power settings....adjust
attitude accordingly.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366572#366572
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| Subject: | Re: Making touchdown with high thrustline? |
I believe that your question deals more with what a pusher will do compared
to the Champ which you are used to. With my Firestar, power equates to
climb. I have seen at least one Mark III that would push the nose over with
power, but I consider that to be unusual rather than normal. I don't think
you are going to have any trouble if you build it right.
Larry
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Nick Cassara <nickc@mtaonline.net> wrote:
> John and All, ****
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> Forgive me for I have not until recently been following this thread very
> closely. My Kolbra is still under construction, so I have only flown, or
> ever been in tractors.****
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> If I am on final and can see that I am headed short of my tough down
> point, in the Champ I just increase throttle a little for a second and I
> gain a little elevation and now I am lined up on touch down point.****
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> So if I am in my Kolbra flying in on approach with, or without power and
I
> see that I am going to be short of my touchdown point=85.what would I do?
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> Thanks,****
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> Nick Cassara****
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> Palmer, AK****
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> Soon to retire and work fulltime on 607AK=85=85..!!!!!!!!!!!****
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| Subject: | Re: Altitude/speed control on approach |
Try low and slow. Maybe we will understand.
BTW: Who are you?
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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