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1. 01:55 AM - Re: M3c first flight, no kolb quit (Pat Ladd)
2. 05:40 AM - Re: M3c first flight, no kolb quit (kinne russ)
3. 05:55 AM - Re: rotax377 (Ducati SS)
4. 06:10 AM - Re: NI-CAD (Ducati SS)
5. 06:32 AM - Re: M3c first flight, no kolb quit (b young)
6. 07:00 AM - Re: Making touchdown with high thrustline? (Richard Pike)
7. 09:09 AM - Re: NI-CAD (Jack B. Hart)
8. 07:39 PM - Electrical parts for sale (Richard Girard)
9. 09:00 PM - Re: Re: NI-CAD (chris davis)
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Subject: | Re: M3c first flight, no kolb quit |
Congratulations.
Good, aint it?
Pat
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Subject: | Re: M3c first flight, no kolb quit |
Good for you, A J! -- have many more pleasant flites in your Kolb; you've earned
them.
Russ K
do not archive
On Feb 20, 2012, at 8:13 PM, awcbs wrote:
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> Got my First flight this evening in a kolb. nicest eve here in western Pa for
months, so I figured it was a good time for me and the old girl. had been doing
some crow hops at the end of of the year, and a few this year. She was running
good, so couple hops this evening and we decided to go for it.
> Had a little private discussion between us and asked her not to kolb quit.
Well she didn't and I didn't and were both very happy.
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> Sorry couldn't help it, all this kolb quit talk had me a little worried. this
was my first flight in the kolb m3, or any kolb for that matter. bought her
as a project, fixed her up at the end of the year, put on a 503. I know it
isn't the most powerfull eng choice, but it's what I had. She flew good, and
didn't have any bad habits. I was a little
> worried thou with all the talk on here, flew the aproach at 60 no flaps, . I
think she's an easy flyer, lands very easy also.
> I'm a low time ul guy, compared to some. only had time for a couple trips around
the pattern. couple take offs and landings. can't wait for the next nice
day here to put some time in her. looking for a decent deal on a 582 for her
if anyone knows of one. thanks AJ
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> Rans S-9 Chaos 503
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It was so many years ago that I worked on the 377 I can not tell you for certain
about any extra mounting points on the PTO end of the engine. But I really doubt
you would be able to mount a gearbox. the sleds of that era almost all mounted
the engine from the bottom and only needed an internally threaded crankshaft
to mount the clutch. You may be able to use one of the plate mounted belt
drives. The 377 was a good running engine but I will pass along one big warning.
We sold some 377 powered Ski-Doos 2 of which returned at the start of their
2nd season not running.
They both had the worst internal corrosion of any engines I have seen in 35 years
of repair work. I have a theory as to what happened but I can not explain why
it only happened to the 377. I believe the failure was caused by a combination
of synthetic oil and oil injection. Oil injection works off both rpm and throttle
opening. The system pumps very little at closed throttle low rpm. On the
other hand pre mix always carries enough oil for the engines highest demand.
So on shut down with premix the engine is pulling in more oil than needed, its
not burned as the ignition is off, so it is left to coat the inside of the
engine. Oil injection backs oil delivery way off at shut down and may not be coating
internal parts as well. combine this with synthetic oils reduced resistance
to corrosion and it ruined the top end of the 2 engines. Now I don't know
about other parts of the country but in this part of the northeast snowmobiles
are often among the most neglected machines on earth. Many times they appear
to be left right where the snow melts out from under them. They would come in
the shop full of leaves and mice and with the seat covers rotted from sunshine.
I do not think I would buy any airplane engine sight unseen unless the deal
included at least a short term return policy.
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Along with full scale I also fly RC airplanes. When we went to the new lithium
batteries the increase in performance was dramatic. This technology is now finding
it' way to cars and motorcycles. I believe the motorcycle version is supposed
to start a 500cc engine at .8lbs the car version starts at less than 2lbs.
I plan to do a bit more research and if the charging system is compatible buy
one for my track car. When first introduced the price was 1200 but has dropped
to less than $200.
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Subject: | Re: M3c first flight, no kolb quit |
smooth air to you aj
congratulations
boyd
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Subject: | Re: Making touchdown with high thrustline? |
neilsenrm(at)gmail.com wrote:
> This is all good but I don't hear anything about Kolb Flaps. When the engine
quits they are a valuable tool to use for landing where you want to touch down.
Ipracticelowering the flaps while lowering the nose to maintain air speed thenraisingthe
flaps andraisingthe nose. Do this a few times on approach and watch
how much the the touch down point will change. If your model Kolb doesn't have
them oh well, you are missing a great tool.
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> I normally land with one notch of flaps and some power. When I was landing at
my short one way strip I could always cut power and add flaps if I misjudged
my approach. If I was landing with no power and full flaps I would have fewer
options. Another point is that landing with power and one notch of flaps feels
just like landing with no power and no flaps. I cut power and added flaps a few
times when I gotsurprisedby a strong wind pushing me down wind into my one
way strip.
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> The FAA doesn't like this but it works well in a Kolb. If you loose power use
the flaps to fine tune your approach then raise them for landing. You will have
a mucheasierround out (flare) at a time when you may need easy. Another point
is that you can get the tail down first if need be to stay up right in unprepared
surfaces. With flaps down it is much more difficult to get the tail down
first. I used this technique to land and stay upright in a bean field a few
years ago. The beans grabbed the tail wheel kind of like the hook grabbing a wire
on a aircraft carrier.
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> As always worth what you paid for it.
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> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
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> [b]
Good point. Years ago when I converted the MKIII from pre-mix 532 to oil injected
582, unbeknownst to me, the oil tank had a spider web tucked away in one of
the upper corners, apparently collected from years of sitting on a shelf. A couple
months later, when it finally detached itself and blocked the oil feed line
to the oil pump, me and #1 daughter suddenly found ourselves in a quiet airplane
about 1,000 agl and on final for a miniscule R/C airplane strip. (Thank
you Lord, perfect spot!)
Used the stick to maintain airspeed, and flaps to control the descent, nailed it
and got it stopped in the available distance. Obviously a better pilot might
not have needed the flaps, but they are an excellent tool for dealing with engine
outs, and they work for that exactly as Rick says.
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Hebrews 11:1
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From: chris davis <capedavis@yahoo.com>
>Jack Thanks alot for the email o the batteries I looked for the data. It
is a Portalac PX12050SHR and distributed by GS Battery. Internet replacement
batteries can be purchased I got a price of $14 for a 4.5 ib 12volt battery
very nice . thanks again Chrisp.s. do you know anything about the SkiDo 377s
?
>
Chris,
I don't have any experience with SkiDo 377s.
I did weigh my prototype LiFepo4 battery, and it came out at 11.4 ounces.
This includes the original four cells, the two wood mounting brackets, and
the connector strips that were welded to the cells. It will put out 70
continuous and a 120 ampere pulse for 10 seconds. It is rated at a 2.5
ampere battery. The MZ 34 starter pulls 30 ampere continuous, so this
battery will crank the engine for about five minutes. The properly primed
engine usually starts in about five seconds.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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Subject: | Electrical parts for sale |
I'm rewiring a Mk III and have the following parts as take offs; Both less
than 45 hours.
Kuntzlemann Hot Box for under seat mount. Long enough positive cable for
"E" gearbox, includes forward wiring to a Grand Rapids EIS. No
regulator/rectifier.
New $240; sell for $140 + shipping
ACS A-510-2 Starter switch, L R Both Start. New $124.50; sell for $85 +
Shipping
Going on Ebay this weekend, I thought I'd give Kolb list first shot.
Rick Girard
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Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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Duc,thanks for the tip the battery is a place Im sure I can cut a lot of we
ight I will spend some time finding the best price . Chris=0A=0A=0AChris Da
vis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly
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012 9:07 AM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: Re: NI-CAD=0A=0A--> Kolb-List message pos
ted by: "Ducati SS" <hiwingflyer6219@yahoo.com>=0A=0AAlong with full scale
I also fly RC airplanes. When we went to the new lithium batteries the incr
ease in performance was dramatic. This technology is now finding it' way to
cars and motorcycles. I believe the motorcycle version is supposed to star
t a 500cc engine at .8lbs the car version starts at less than 2lbs. I plan
to do a bit more research and if the charging system is compatible buy one
for my track car. When first introduced the price was 1200 but has dropped
to less than $200.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://f
orums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366822#366822=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A
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