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1. 05:40 AM - Re: rotax377 (Thom Riddle)
2. 06:37 AM - Kolb Mark III or Slingshot wing on Firestar II (SAILNROCK)
3. 10:11 AM - Re: Re: rotax377 (chris davis)
4. 10:12 AM - Re: Re: rotax377 (chris davis)
5. 01:30 PM - KAWASAKI (chris davis)
6. 04:03 PM - Re: KAWASAKI (Dennis Souder)
7. 05:09 PM - Re: KAWASAKI (Rick Neilsen)
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I've owned two early Firestars. The first one was built very light and ran a 377.
Its climb performance was as good or better than the 2nd one which was built
heavy and ran a 447. A suspect a light Firefly would have excellent performance
with a 377.
BTW, for reasons unknown to me, the 377 was far less persnickety regarding prop
pitch and mixture tweaks to get proper EGT readings under various flight regimes,
than the 447. I think others have had similar experience. If I didn't need
the extra 5 hp, the 377 would be my preference.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Truth is what stands the test of experience.
- Albert Einstein
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Subject: | Kolb Mark III or Slingshot wing on Firestar II |
Happy new year to one and all.
Has any one put Mark III or Slingshot wings on a firestar II ?
If so how did it go? Able to get gross Wt. up and use the Mark III Flaps?
How did they attach to FSII cage.
How did it fly.
Just thinking and asking.
Out west we are getting some great Fly'n in between the wind.
Happy and safe Fly'n Bob
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Thanks for that Dennis I respect you opinion. Chris=0A=0A=0AChris Davis=0AK
XP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly=0A=0A
=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Dennis Souder <flykolb@pa.net>
=0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Friday, February 24, 2012 11:34 PM
=0ASubject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: rotax377=0A=0A=0AChris,=0A-=0AAs best I ca
n recall, there was not much difference between the 377 and 447.=0A-=0ADe
nnis=0A-=0A-=0AFrom:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-
kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of chris davis=0ASent: Friday, Fe
bruary 24, 2012 10:35 AM=0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-
List: Re: rotax377=0A-=0AThank you Mike=0A=0A=0AHow does the 377 perform
,what is your climb rate? take off distance etc / thanks again you are the
first 377 flyer of any aircraft that- I-have heard from!-=0AChris Dav
is=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly
=0AFrom:mburdge39 <mburdge@windstream.net>=0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.com
=0ASent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 5:12 PM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: Re: rota
net>=0A=0AI have a 377 on my Firefly. The provision 4 takes an "A" gearbox
while the provision 8 takes a "B" gearbox(plus others). The Ski-doo snowmob
iles have neither provision and you must use a belt reduction drive.=0A=0A-
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Thanks Thom I will put that in my book !=0A=0A=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492
hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly=0A=0A=0A_________
_______________________=0AFrom: Thom Riddle <riddletr@gmail.com>=0ATo: kolb
-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 8:40 AM=0ASubject:
" <riddletr@gmail.com>=0A=0AI've owned two early Firestars. The first one w
as built very light and ran a 377. Its climb performance was as good or bet
ter than the 2nd one which was built heavy and ran a 447. A suspect a light
Firefly would have excellent performance with a 377. =0A=0ABTW, for reason
s unknown to me, the 377 was far less persnickety regarding prop pitch and
mixture tweaks to get proper EGT readings under various flight regimes, tha
n the 447. I think others have had similar experience. If I didn't need the
extra 5 hp, the 377 would be my preference.=0A=0A--------=0AThom Riddle=0A
Buffalo, NY (9G0)=0AKolb Slingshot SS-021=0AJabiru 2200A #1574=0ATennessee
Prop 64x32=0A=0ATruth is what stands the test of experience.=0A- Albert Ein
stein=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matroni
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KOLBERS, Has anyone flown a Kolb with a KAWASAKI 440 air cooled ? or do you know
anyone who has?
Chris Davis
KXP 503 492 hrs
Glider Pilot
Disabled from crash building Firefly
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Chris,
Good engines as I recall, Sky Cycle uses them. Trying to remember, but I
think some have been using the Kawis all along. I think they are lighter
than Rotax. As a manufacturer we went with the proven Rotax w. gearbox, but
now that Rotax is fading from the 2-stroke scene.
I would prefer the separate V-belt drives. A well designed redrive using
the newer 3VX belts would be my preference over the poly-v belt. Less
tension is needed. If a poly-V looses a little tension you can loose a lot
of power. But a V-belt drive uses less tension and less likely to looses
substantial power suddenly. A well designed V-belt reduction is only
slightly less efficient than a synchronous belt with much less chance of
torsional vibration issues.
Dennis
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of chris davis
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 4:29 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: KAWASAKI
KOLBERS, Has anyone flown a Kolb with a KAWASAKI 440 air cooled ? or do you
know anyone who has?
Chris Davis
KXP 503 492 hrs
Glider Pilot
Disabled from crash building Firefly
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Hay Dennis
Last time I talked to you it seems like you were working on the design of a
new airplane. Anything new to report?
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Dennis Souder <flykolb@pa.net> wrote:
> Chris,****
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> Good engines as I recall, Sky Cycle uses them. Trying to remember, but I
> think some have been using the Kawis all along. I think they are lighter
> than Rotax. As a manufacturer we went with the proven Rotax w. gearbox,
> but now that Rotax is fading from the 2-stroke scene=85****
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> I would prefer the separate V-belt drives. A well designed redrive using
> the newer 3VX belts would be my preference over the poly-v belt. Less
> tension is needed. If a poly-V looses a little tension you can loose a l
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> of power. But a V-belt drive uses less tension and less likely to looses
> substantial power suddenly. A well designed V-belt reduction is only
> slightly less efficient than a synchronous belt with much less chance of
> torsional vibration issues.****
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> Dennis****
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> *From:* owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *chris davis
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 25, 2012 4:29 PM
> *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Kolb-List: KAWASAKI****
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> KXP 503 492 hrs
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> Disabled from crash building Firefly****
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