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Mon 03/12/12


Total Messages Posted: 11



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     1. 07:35 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 03/11/12 (b young)
     2. 07:38 AM - Re: Rotax 912 in Drones... (Beauford)
     3. 08:13 AM - Sun and Fun 2012 (John Hauck)
     4. 08:43 AM - Re: Rotax 912 in Drones... (Dennis Thate)
     5. 08:45 AM - Re: Rotax 912 in Drones... (Dennis Thate)
     6. 08:55 AM - Re: Sun and Fun 2012 (Rick Neilsen)
     7. 10:32 AM - Re: Sun and Fun 2012 (chris davis)
     8. 05:43 PM - Re: Rotax 912 in Drones... (russ kinne)
     9. 06:16 PM - Re: Sun and Fun 2012 (Malcolm Brubaker)
    10. 06:25 PM - Re: Sun and Fun 2012 (209GS)
    11. 06:31 PM - Re: Re: Sun and Fun 2012 (John Hauck)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:35:00 AM PST US
    From: "b young" <byoungplumbing@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 03/11/12
    With their record of Toilet seats and hammers, kind of makes you wonder what they are paying for them. Larry >>>>>>>>>>>>> Larry I think you got it wrong,,,, "kind of makes you wonder what ''''WE'''' are paying for them" boyd do not archive.


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    Time: 07:38:30 AM PST US
    From: "Beauford " <beauford173@verizon.net>
    Subject: Rotax 912 in Drones...
    Brother Cassara: The Predator UAV's ( both the RQ-1 and the armed MQ-1) use a 115 hp. special variant of the 914F engine. not the similar 912 series used on Kolbs. The military 914F used/uses pressure compensating Bing carbs, not F.I. . The 914 did marginally well on the RQ-1, but was pushed very hard and had a relatively short service life. The developed and somewhat heavier version of the bird (R/MQ-9 Reaper) dropped the Rotax completely and went to a version of the Garrett TPE-331 turboprop flat rated at around 600 hp.quite a jump.and giving you an idea of just how hard the Rotax 914's had to be driven to make mission on the Predator. IMHO it is a credit to the inherent soundness of the Rotax 4-strokes that they held together as well as they did under brutal service conditions.They ran their guts out, all day, every day. month after month. Ought to make the Kolbers who fly with a 912 feel pretty good about their engines.however expensive. Worth what ye paid fer it. Do Not Archive Beauford FF-076 Brandon, FL From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Nick Cassara Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:38 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Rotax 912 in Drones... Uncle Sam is using the Rotax 912 is in some of the drones that we are now sharing the skies with. My guess is "we" are the deep pocket that allowed for the development of the fuel injection upgrade project. Nick Cassara Palmer Alaska


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    Time: 08:13:34 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Sun and Fun 2012
    Kolbers: Just got off the phone with Travis, Bryan, and Dennis. Kolb Aircraft will be arriving Lakeland Sunday after next, 25 Mar 2011. Looks like it is time to push Miss P'fer (P fer plane) out of the old sagging, rusty tin covered hanger, fly over to Ronnie Collin's airstrip, across the lake and six miles west of Gantt International Airport, borrow his water hose and wash the barn dust, bird and bug crap off in preparation for the flight to Sun and Fun. The last cross country flights I did was in Nov 2011, and May/Jun 2011. Boy am I rusty. In fact, haven't done a whole lot of flying this past year or so far this year. Look forward to seeing all the old familiar faces again, and new ones I haven't had a chance to meet. Always good to put a face with posts to the Kolb List. This will be my 29th consecutive visit to Sun and Fun, the first was in Mar 1984, where I hung on the fence, watched Dennis Souder wring out the new Ultrastar, and drooled on it when it was not flying. I purchased my first Kolb Kit, had received the plans and building manual prior to departing for Lakeland. When I got home my engine and several large boxes of material and parts were waiting for me to pick up at the country store up the road. Anyone else heading to Lakeland this year? Plan to arrive Lakeland Monday or Tuesday, weather permitting. Will stay as long as I can stand it. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama


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    Time: 08:43:33 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rotax 912 in Drones...
    From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman@frontier.com>
    [quote="lcottrell"]With their record of Toilet seats and hammers, kind of makes you wonder what they are paying for them. Larry On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Nick Cassara wrote: > > Hello Kolbers, > > Uncle Sam is using the Rotax 912 is in some of the drones that we are now sharing the skies with. My guess is we are the deep pocket that allowed for the development of the fuel injection upgrade project. > > > > > Nick Cassara > Palmer Alaska > > > > > > > > > > > > > get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > > tp://forums.matronics.com > > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > > -- If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending. > [b] http://blog.chron.com/newswatch/2012/03/police-drone-test-flight-crashes-near-houston/ Their in my backyard ... -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368253#368253


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    Time: 08:45:20 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rotax 912 in Drones...
    From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman@frontier.com>
    [quote="nickc(at)mtaonline.net"]Hello Kolbers, Uncle Sam is using the Rotax 912 is in some of the drones that we are now sharing the skies with. My guess is we are the deep pocket that allowed for the development of the fuel injection upgrade project. Nick Cassara Palmer Alaska Their right in our own backyards http://blog.chron.com/newswatch/2012/03/police-drone-test-flight-crashes-near-houston/ > [b] -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368254#368254


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    Time: 08:55:21 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sun and Fun 2012
    From: Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm@gmail.com>
    John/ All I will be driving in and camping for most of the week. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:13 AM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote: > > Kolbers: > > Just got off the phone with Travis, Bryan, and Dennis. Kolb Aircraft will > be arriving Lakeland Sunday after next, 25 Mar 2011. > > Looks like it is time to push Miss P'fer (P fer plane) out of the old > sagging, rusty tin covered hanger, fly over to Ronnie Collin's airstrip, > across the lake and six miles west of Gantt International Airport, borrow > his water hose and wash the barn dust, bird and bug crap off in preparation > for the flight to Sun and Fun. > > The last cross country flights I did was in Nov 2011, and May/Jun 2011. > Boy > am I rusty. In fact, haven't done a whole lot of flying this past year or > so far this year. > > Look forward to seeing all the old familiar faces again, and new ones I > haven't had a chance to meet. Always good to put a face with posts to the > Kolb List. > > This will be my 29th consecutive visit to Sun and Fun, the first was in Mar > 1984, where I hung on the fence, watched Dennis Souder wring out the new > Ultrastar, and drooled on it when it was not flying. I purchased my first > Kolb Kit, had received the plans and building manual prior to departing for > Lakeland. When I got home my engine and several large boxes of material > and > parts were waiting for me to pick up at the country store up the road. > > Anyone else heading to Lakeland this year? > > Plan to arrive Lakeland Monday or Tuesday, weather permitting. Will stay > as > long as I can stand it. > > john h > mkIII > Titus, Alabama > >


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    Time: 10:32:05 AM PST US
    From: chris davis <capedavis@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Sun and Fun 2012
    John, Becky and I will be there I not sure when but we will see you sometim e. Chris=0A=0A=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled fr om crash building Firefly=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A From : John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>=0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Monday, March 12, 2012 11:13 AM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: Sun and Fun 2012=0A =0AKolbers:=0A=0AJust got off the phone with Travis, Bryan, and Dennis.- Kolb- Aircraft will=0Abe arriving Lakeland Sunday after next, 25 Mar 2011 .=0A=0ALooks like it is time to push Miss P'fer (P fer plane) out of the ol d=0Asagging, rusty tin covered hanger, fly over to Ronnie Collin's airstrip ,=0Aacross the lake and six miles west of Gantt International Airport, borr ow=0Ahis water hose and wash the barn dust, bird and bug crap off in prepar ation=0Afor the flight to Sun and Fun.- =0A=0AThe last cross country flig hts I did was in Nov 2011, and May/Jun 2011.- Boy=0Aam I rusty.- In fac t, haven't done a whole lot of flying this past year or=0Aso far this year. =0A=0ALook forward to seeing all the old familiar faces again, and new ones I=0Ahaven't had a chance to meet.- Always good to put a face with posts to the=0AKolb List.=0A=0AThis will be my 29th consecutive visit to Sun and Fun, the first was in Mar=0A1984, where I hung on the fence, watched Dennis Souder wring out the new=0AUltrastar, and drooled on it when it was not fl ying.- I purchased my first=0AKolb Kit, had received the plans and buildi ng manual prior to departing for=0ALakeland.- When I got home my engine a nd several large boxes of material and=0Aparts were waiting for me to pick up at the country store up the road. =0A=0AAnyone else heading to Lakeland this year?=0A=0APlan to arrive Lakeland Monday or Tuesday, weather permitti ng.- Will stay as=0Along as I can stand it. =0A=0Ajohn h=0AmkIII=0ATitus, ==================


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    Time: 05:43:18 PM PST US
    From: russ kinne <russkinne@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: Rotax 912 in Drones...
    Larry I'm sure it's a wild price! -- but surely you know that a lot of the inflated cost of hammers etc goes to supporting the clandestine-services budget? Can't beat it; got to accept it. At least it's well spent. Russ K On Mar 12, 2012, at 1:13 AM, Larry Cottrell wrote: > With their record of Toilet seats and hammers, kind of makes you wonder what they are paying for them. > Larry > > > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Nick Cassara <nickc@mtaonline.net> wrote: > Hello Kolber=92s, > > > > Uncle Sam is using the Rotax 912 is in some of the drones that we are now sharing the skies with. My guess is =93we=94 are the deep pocket that allowed for the development of the fuel injection upgrade project. > > > > Nick Cassara > > Palmer Alaska > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > -- > If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending. > > > >


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    Time: 06:16:36 PM PST US
    From: Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Sun and Fun 2012
    =0A----- a year ago a friend and I were looking into the commerci al usefulness of the club plane format to introduce people to aviation and familiarization to ultralite flying. =0Aour hope was to gather enough info to build a process that would allow pilots to utilize their plane - wether experimental, amateur built or certified, to introduce people to flying. This could mean training use for cfi's, for ultralite pilots to gain experi ence before flying alone, or for people to just get a ride in a cool lookin g plane at a pancake breakfast. =0Amy friend mark has become a CFI and star ted a flying club in a exp challenger.last year I had 11 paying club member s. a lot of people have contacted me about my fly for fun club. i am still building a data base of info on flying clubs and am willing to share this with anyone wanting to learn how to start one. =0AI will be at sun fun all week and can be found in the old ultralite headqurters tent in Paradise c ity's new sport plane area=0A=0A=0AMalcolm & Jeanne Brubaker =0AMichigan Sp ort Pilot Repair =0Ahttp://michigansportpilotrepair.com =0ALSRM-A, PPC, WS =0AGreat Sails - Sailmaker =0Afor Ultralight & Light Sport=0A(989)513-3022 =0A- =0A=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Rick Ne ilsen <neilsenrm@gmail.com>=0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Monday, March 12, 2012 11:54 AM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: Sun and Fun 2012=0A =0A =0AJohn/ All=0A=0AI will be driving in and camping for most of the week.=0A =0ARick Neilsen=0ARedrive VW Powered MKIIIC=0A=0A=0AOn Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:13 AM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:=0A=0A--> Kolb-List mess age posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>=0A>=0A>Kolbers:=0A>=0A>J ust got off the phone with Travis, Bryan, and Dennis. -Kolb -Aircraft w ill=0A>be arriving Lakeland Sunday after next, 25 Mar 2011.=0A>=0A>Looks li ke it is time to push Miss P'fer (P fer plane) out of the old=0A>sagging, r usty tin covered hanger, fly over to Ronnie Collin's airstrip,=0A>across th e lake and six miles west of Gantt International Airport, borrow=0A>his wat er hose and wash the barn dust, bird and bug crap off in preparation=0A>for the flight to Sun and Fun.=0A>=0A>The last cross country flights I did was in Nov 2011, and May/Jun 2011. -Boy=0A>am I rusty. -In fact, haven't d one a whole lot of flying this past year or=0A>so far this year.=0A>=0A>Loo k forward to seeing all the old familiar faces again, and new ones I=0A>hav en't had a chance to meet. -Always good to put a face with posts to the =0A>Kolb List.=0A>=0A>This will be my 29th consecutive visit to Sun and Fun , the first was in Mar=0A>1984, where I hung on the fence, watched Dennis S ouder wring out the new=0A>Ultrastar, and drooled on it when it was not fly ing. -I purchased my first=0A>Kolb Kit, had received the plans and buildi ng manual prior to departing for=0A>Lakeland. -When I got home my engine and several large boxes of material and=0A>parts were waiting for me to pic k up at the country store up the road.=0A>=0A>Anyone else heading to Lakela nd this year?=0A>=0A>Plan to arrive Lakeland Monday or Tuesday, weather per mitting. -Will stay as=0A>long as I can stand it.=0A>=0A>john h=0A>mkIII =0A>Titus, Alabama=0A>=0A>=0A>============0A>arget= "_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List=0A>====== ======0A>http://forums.matronics.com=0A>======== ====0A>le, List Admin.=0A>="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contri ==========


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    Time: 06:25:44 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sun and Fun 2012
    From: "209GS" <guebbing@aol.com>
    I'll be at the campground Sat. through Friday. Hopefully my tent won't end up in the pond again this year ( no more tornado's please! ) -------- Gerry Uebbing Firestar II 503 b-box (not flying yet) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368318#368318


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    Time: 06:31:26 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Sun and Fun 2012
    I'll be at the campground Sat. through Friday. Hopefully my tent won't end up in the pond again this year ( no more tornado's please! ) -------- Gerry Uebbing Firestar II 503 b-box (not flying yet) Don't know if my old MKIII would stand another tornado or not. Don't want to find out. Hopefully, we will have great weather. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama




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