---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 03/16/12: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:38 PM - Sun And Fun (Dan Liles) 2. 06:04 PM - Re: Sun And Fun (Phil) 3. 07:01 PM - Re: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com) 4. 07:41 PM - Re: Sun And Fun (Dan Liles) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:38:30 PM PST US From: "Dan Liles" Subject: Kolb-List: Sun And Fun I am considering flying to sun and fun. I will be flying out of KSYI in Shelbyville TN south of Nashville. Is there anyone between me and FL or close to me that will be flying to S&F? and if so would you entertain a tag along? thanks, Dan Liles MK3Xtra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kolb-List Digest Server" Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 2:00 AM Subject: Kolb-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 03/14/12 > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Kolb-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. 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(John > Hauck) > 5. 04:58 PM - Re: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! > (chris davis) > 6. 05:36 PM - Re: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! > (George Alexander) > 7. 05:40 PM - Re: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! > (Michael Welch) > 8. 06:28 PM - Re: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! > (Dennis Thate) > 9. 07:22 PM - Re: Re: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! > (David Kulp) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 10:42:42 AM PST US > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Sun and Fun 2012 > From: "cspoke" > > > John and All, > I will be driving in on Wednesday and staying through Saturday. Looking > forward > to seeing everybody again and meeting new Kolbers. > > -------- > Craig Spoke > Mark111 Xtra > VW Redrive > Lillian, AL > cspoke@mediacombb.net > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368496#368496 > > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 12:01:54 PM PST US > Subject: Kolb-List: WWII Vet / Pilot checks out my Kolb Firestar > From: "Dennis Thate" > > > ............ and 'Still likes the stick better' ! [Wink] > > -------- > Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist > invents > the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368505#368505 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/wwii_vet_537.jpg > > > ________________________________ Message 3 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:13:48 PM PST US > From: FlyColt45@aol.com > Subject: Kolb-List: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! > > Kolbers, > > Greetings from my +7k ft mountain top, vacation resort retreat chateau, > way up & out - in a FOB (forward op base), somewhere in AF. May sound > nice > except that we're surrounded by much higher mountains; and on a bad day - > that's not a good thing ; ) > I'm sitting here tonight in my little container type room, on a pitch > dark, > starless night under blackout conditions reading my Kolb list and the > activity surrounding this years Sun & Fun. Was just there with Dick > Kuntzleman a couple of yrs ago (when I could afford it : ) > > It's been snowing about 2 in every evening & warming to the 40 in the > AM - > just enough to turn that new snow into 4 in of mud. The bone chilling, > freezing weather has left for the season. For fellow flyers who know > about > such military things (& many have had it worse I'm sure), also know that > life gets more active as bad weather leaves. > > I can tell you that you haven't seen mountains - until you've flown above > and around these babies : ) > Whether I'm strapped in a rotary or can walk to a small window in a C-130 > or 17, I'm always looking for a safe (survivable), place in case things go > wrong. I'm sure that every Kolber would be thinking the same : ) > The answer to that safe place is: Faith in God, the Flight Crew and the > Equipment, that you good people back home sent over here. If you haven't > gotten a "Thank You" lately; I can assure you that every soldier thinks > about > > all three more than a few times while over here. Whatever your opinion on > the war - You are Officially Thanked! > > For those of you who don't know me, I'm a Kolber. Owned 3. But more > importantly than that; I was/am privileged to have known Homer & family & > the > > Old Kolb company people. All fine people - as I know the New Kolb Co to > be. > > For me - there is nothing like reading Dennis or John giving insight from > their deep history with these planes, a spirited debate over the use of > VGs > : ) or even the occasional petty stuff. (The mud slingers we can all do > without). > And just so that you Kolb builders/flyers feel some connection to me - be > it known that I celebrated my 60th b-day last month - here, (not that > you're > all 60ish : ) {The worse part for me - in getting this deployment was the > train up. Wasn't a sign on my back that said "take it easy on this old > man, he's gonna be 60" : } Army doesn't much care about individual > challenges. Either you make it or you don't! I was lucky. > So -- get that Kolb built and get into the air! Or - for you "Lurkers": > Yes - the Kolb is the safest plane to fly! Get off the fence, (you ain't > that old), spend the money; build or get help building a Kolb; and start > living the rest of your life - if flying is your passion. As they say, > "Just > > Do It"! > > In my job as an advisor, I've gotten to many places around this country > and parts of it are beyond beautiful. > The sky on most nights is majestic! Brilliant stars look like the > perfect > planetarium against a lighter than Navy blue sky. All the more > illuminated > by the waves and waves of snow covered mountain tops seemingly running up > to it. Totally belies what's going on under it all - on the ground. > And then there's the "well traveled" areas that resemble the ugliest side > of the farthermost planet! And the smells are putrid and the dust storms > clog your breathing. > > Before I turn this note into a novel, I should mention the people. For > the most part - not unlike any of us or your kids. Was pelted by kids > playfully throwing snowballs one day as we passed by. They of course > didn't > recognize our perceived threat & why we weren't enjoying it - since > anyone of > > those snowballs could have been something worse! But kids will be kids > and > I would have done the same as a little guy : ) I must admit that I had > a > fleeting thought about dropping my gear and tossing a few back at them. > > A few of the byproducts of our involvement here is that we use thousands > of > plastic water bottles. Hydration is important and the Army takes care of > it soldiers by providing pallets and pallets of water. Those discarded > plastic water bottles are used as a source to heat "homes" on those bone > chilling nights. > Also (& I'll be delicate): In this country we don't flush used toilet > paper! It gets dried out and used for heat & building material etc. So > there! > > I said it : ) > > This Matronic's Kolb sight is great & reading what you all are up to > makes > my day! (Betcha never knew that your questions, insights and even the > spats are appreciated over here : ) Can't get into things to deeply but I > have > a > handful of friends who are instructors to the Afghan Police & they also > like reading the site. Also met a Lithuanian soldier (Priest) who has a > C-172 > > and we talk Kolb (Lite Sport & Exp) stuff all the time. His take is - > that > Rotax is pricing themselves out of the market. Yeah! the new 912 is the > price of an average home in FL these days. (That's bad news on both > counts > : ( > > I'll be back home to the Villages in FL about a month after the baseball > AllStar break. Between planes at the moment but would like to build > another > MKIII - so maybe see you all at Sun & Fun next year. Or maybe back at > Homer's place. > > Keep em all straight - John H.! > > Out! (from my mountain top vacation resort retreat chateau) > > "When in Doubt - Attack!" Gen Geo S Patton > > Jim > > Jim Cote, CW3 > > > ________________________________ Message 4 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:34:02 PM PST US > From: "John Hauck" > Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! > > > I'll be back home to the Villages in FL about a month after the baseball > AllStar break. Between planes at the moment but would like tobuild another > MKIII - so maybe see you all at Sun & Fun next year. Or maybe back at > Homer's place. > > > Jim Cote, CW3 > > > Hurry home and get that new MKIII. Kolb Aircraft can use the business. > > john h > mkIII > Titus, Alabama > > > ________________________________ Message 5 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 04:58:52 PM PST US > From: chris davis > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! > > Jim , Thank you for your service and your letter . What is a 60 year old > ko > lber doing in AF? Hope you make it through your tour safely and come home > t > o build and fly again. C=0A=0A=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider > Pil > ot=0ADisabled from crash building > Firefly=0A=0A=0A_________________________ > _______=0AFrom: "FlyColt45@aol.com" =0ATo: > kolb-list@mat > ronics.com =0ASent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 5:13 PM=0ASubject: > Kolb-List: > Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You!=0A=0A=0AKolbers,=0A=0AGreeti > ngs from my-+7k ft mountain top, vacation resort retreat chateau, way up > & out-- in a FOB (forward op base), somewhere in AF.- May sound nice ex > cept that we're surrounded by much higher mountains; and-on a bad day - t > hat's not a good thing ; )=0AI'm sitting here tonight in my little > containe > r type room, on a pitch dark, starless night under blackout conditions > read > ing my Kolb list and the activity surrounding-this years Sun & Fun.- Wa > s just there with Dick Kuntzleman a couple of yrs ago (when I could afford > it : )=0A=0AIt's been snowing about 2 in every evening & warming to the 40 > in the AM --just enough to-turn that new snow into 4 in of mud. The bon > e chilling, freezing weather has left for the season.- For fellow flyers > -who know about such military things (&- many-have had it worse I'm s > ure), also know that life gets more active as bad weather leaves. =0A=0AI > -can tell you that you haven't seen mountains - until you've flown above > and around these babies : )---=0AWhether I'm strapped in a rotary or > can walk to a small window in a C-130 or 17,-I'm always looking for a saf > e (survivable), place in case things go wrong. I'm sure that every Kolber > w > ould be thinking the same : )--=0AThe answer to that safe place is: Fai > th in God, the Flight Crew and the Equipment,-that you good people back h > ome sent over here.- If you haven't gotten a "Thank You" lately; I can as > sure you that every soldier thinks about all three more than a few times > wh > ile over here. Whatever your opinion on the war - You are Officially > Thanke > d!=0A=0AFor those of you who don't know me, I'm a Kolber. Owned 3.- But m > ore importantly than that; I was/am-privileged to have known Homer & fami > ly & the Old Kolb company people.- All fine people - as I know the New Ko > lb Co to be.- =0AFor me - there is nothing like reading Dennis or John gi > ving insight from their deep history with these planes, a spirited debate > o > ver the use of VGs : ) or even the occasional petty stuff. (The mud > slinger > s we can all do without).-=0AAnd just so that you Kolb builders/flyers- > feel some connection to me - be it known that I celebrated my 60th b-day > la > st month - here, (not that you're all 60ish : )-{The worse part for me - > in getting this deployment was the train up.- Wasn't a sign-on my back > that said "take it easy on this old man, he's gonna be 60" : } - Army doe > sn't much care about individual challenges.- Either you make it or you do > n't!- I was lucky.=0ASo -- get that Kolb built and get into the air!- O > r - for you "Lurkers":-Yes - the Kolb is the safest plane to fly!- Get > off the fence, (you ain't that old), spend the money; build or get help > bui > lding a Kolb;-and start living the rest of your life - if flying is your > passion.--As they say, "Just Do It"!=0A=0AIn my job as an advisor, I've > gotten-to-many places around this country and parts of it are beyond b > eautiful. =0AThe sky on most nights is majestic!- Brilliant stars look li > ke the perfect planetarium against a lighter than Navy blue sky. All the > mo > re illuminated by the waves and waves of snow covered mountain tops > seeming > ly running up to it. Totally belies what's going on under it all-- on the > ground.-=0AAnd then there's the "well traveled" areas that resemble the > ugliest side of the farthermost planet!- And the smells are-putrid and > the dust storms clog your breathing.=0A=0ABefore I turn this note into a > no > vel, I should mention the people.- For the most part - not unlike any of > us or your kids.- Was pelted by kids playfully throwing snowballs one day > as we passed by.- They of course didn't recognize our perceived threat & > why we weren't enjoying it- - since anyone of those snowballs could have > been something worse!- But kids will be kids and I would have done the s > ame as a little guy : )-- I must admit that I had a fleeting thought ab > out dropping my gear and tossing a few back at them.=0A=0AA few of the > bypr > oducts of our involvement here is that we use thousands of plastic water > bo > ttles. Hydration is important and the Army takes care of it soldiers by > pro > viding pallets and pallets of water.- Those discarded plastic water bottl > es are used as a source to heat "homes" on those bone chilling > nights.=0AAl > so (& I'll be delicate): In this country we don't flush used toilet paper! > -It gets dried out and used for heat & building material etc.- So there > ! I said it : )=0A=0AThis Matronic's Kolb sight is great & reading what > you > all are up to makes my day! (Betcha never knew that your questions, insigh > ts and even the spats are appreciated over here : ) Can't get into things > t > o deeply but I have a handful of friends who are instructors to the Afghan > Police & they also like reading the site. Also met a Lithuanian soldier > (Pr > iest) who has a C-172 and we talk Kolb (Lite Sport & Exp) stuff all the > tim > e. His take is - that Rotax is pricing themselves out of the market. Yeah! > - the new 912 is the price of an average home in FL these days.- (That' > s bad news on both counts : (=0A=0AI'll be back home to the Villages in FL > about a month after the baseball AllStar break.- Between planes at the mo > ment but would like to-build another MKIII - so maybe see you all at Sun > & Fun next year.- Or maybe back at Homer's place.-=0A=0AKeep em all str > aight - John H.!=0A=0AOut!- (from my mountain top vacation resort retreat > chateau)=0A=0A"When in Doubt - Attack!"--- Gen Geo S Patton=0A=0AJim > =================== > > ________________________________ Message 6 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 05:36:51 PM PST US > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! > From: "George Alexander" > > > FlyColt45(at)aol.com wrote: >> Kolbers, >> >> Greetings from my +7k ft mountain top, vacation resort retreat chateau, >> way > up & out - in a FOB (forward op base), somewhere in AF. >> >> S N I P >> >> I'll be back home to the Villages in FL about a month after the baseball >> AllStar > break. Between planes at the moment but would like to build another > MKIII > - so maybe see you all at Sun & Fun next year. Or maybe back at Homer's > place. >> >> Keep em all straight - John H.! >> >> Out! (from my mountain top vacation resort retreat chateau) >> >> "When in Doubt - Attack!" Gen Geo S Patton >> >> Jim >> >> Jim Cote, CW3 >> >> >> > > > For those of you who need to put a face with a name....... > Jim Cote was among the attendees at the first "Kolb > Builders/Flyers/Admirers Northeast > Gathering" in June 2004. > > Here's a link to his picture: > http://home.comcast.net/~kolbplanes/NEFlyin_28.html > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > -------- > George Alexander > FS II R503 N709FS > http://www.oh2fly.net > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368543#368543 > > > ________________________________ Message 7 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 05:40:56 PM PST US > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! > From: Michael Welch > > Chris, > > An explanation; I'm sure Jim will correct me if I'm wrong....but here > is how "I" understood him. > > He said he was at a FOB (forward operating base)....somewhere in > Afghanistan. Very likely he is a civilian, > working as an independent contractor (like both of my boys were doing). > > Speaking of my boys in Afghanistan.....the oldest one finally came > home two weeks ago, permanently. No more going back back. He said > his last night at Bagram AB the anti-American maggots were lobbing > hand-thrown bombs over the base walls all night. > He finally managed to snag a VERY well nice job just south of > Minneapolis, not too far from his home in Buffalo, MN. > (The youngest one came home permanently a year and a half ago) > > Jim Cote; speaking of "The Villages", I'm moving there to retire as > soon as I can unload my present house. I've been there for their tour > for the last > two summers. Someday............ > > To keep this Kolb related, everybody buy a Kolb airplane. (there! > better than a dumb video, it'n it) > > Mike Welch > > > On Mar 14, 2012, at 6:57 PM, chris davis wrote: > >> Jim , Thank you for your service and your letter . What is a 60 year > old kolber doing in AF? Hope you make it through your tour safely and > come home to build and fly again. C >> >> Chris Davis >> KXP 503 492 hrs >> Glider Pilot >> Disabled from crash building Firefly >> From: "FlyColt45@aol.com" >> To: kolb-list@matronics.com >> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 5:13 PM >> Subject: Kolb-List: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! >> >> Kolbers, >> >> Greetings from my +7k ft mountain top, vacation resort retreat > chateau, way up & out - in a FOB (forward op base), somewhere in AF. > May sound nice except that we're surrounded by much higher mountains; > and on a bad day - that's not a good thing ; ) >> I'm sitting here tonight in my little container type room, on a pitch > dark, starless night under blackout conditions reading my Kolb list and > the activity surrounding this years Sun & Fun. Was just there with Dick > Kuntzleman a couple of yrs ago (when I could afford it : ) >> >> It's been snowing about 2 in every evening & warming to the 40 in the > AM - just enough to turn that new snow into 4 in of mud. The bone > chilling, freezing weather has left for the season. For fellow flyers > who know about such military things (& many have had it worse I'm > sure), also know that life gets more active as bad weather leaves. >> >> I can tell you that you haven't seen mountains - until you've flown > above and around these babies : ) >> Whether I'm strapped in a rotary or can walk to a small window in a > C-130 or 17, I'm always looking for a safe (survivable), place in case > things go wrong. I'm sure that every Kolber would be thinking the same : > ) >> The answer to that safe place is: Faith in God, the Flight Crew and > the Equipment, that you good people back home sent over here. If you > haven't gotten a "Thank You" lately; I can assure you that every soldier > thinks about all three more than a few times while over here. Whatever > your opinion on the war - You are Officially Thanked! >> >> For those of you who don't know me, I'm a Kolber. Owned 3. But more > importantly than that; I was/am privileged to have known Homer & family > & the Old Kolb company people. All fine people - as I know the New Kolb > Co to be. >> For me - there is nothing like reading Dennis or John giving insight > from their deep history with these planes, a spirited debate over the > use of VGs : ) or even the occasional petty stuff. (The mud slingers we > can all do without). >> And just so that you Kolb builders/flyers feel some connection to me - > be it known that I celebrated my 60th b-day last month - here, (not that > you're all 60ish : ) {The worse part for me - in getting this deployment > was the train up. Wasn't a sign on my back that said "take it easy on > this old man, he's gonna be 60" : } Army doesn't much care about > individual challenges. Either you make it or you don't! I was lucky. >> So -- get that Kolb built and get into the air! Or - for you > "Lurkers": Yes - the Kolb is the safest plane to fly! Get off the > fence, (you ain't that old), spend the money; build or get help building > a Kolb; and start living the rest of your life - if flying is your > passion. As they say, "Just Do It"! >> >> In my job as an advisor, I've gotten to many places around this > country and parts of it are beyond beautiful. >> The sky on most nights is majestic! Brilliant stars look like the > perfect planetarium against a lighter than Navy blue sky. All the more > illuminated by the waves and waves of snow covered mountain tops > seemingly running up to it. Totally belies what's going on under it all > - on the ground. >> And then there's the "well traveled" areas that resemble the ugliest > side of the farthermost planet! And the smells are putrid and the dust > storms clog your breathing. >> >> Before I turn this note into a novel, I should mention the people. > For the most part - not unlike any of us or your kids. Was pelted by > kids playfully throwing snowballs one day as we passed by. They of > course didn't recognize our perceived threat & why we weren't enjoying > it - since anyone of those snowballs could have been something worse! > But kids will be kids and I would have done the same as a little guy : ) > I must admit that I had a fleeting thought about dropping my gear and > tossing a few back at them. >> >> A few of the byproducts of our involvement here is that we use > thousands of plastic water bottles. Hydration is important and the Army > takes care of it soldiers by providing pallets and pallets of water. > Those discarded plastic water bottles are used as a source to heat > "homes" on those bone chilling nights. >> Also (& I'll be delicate): In this country we don't flush used toilet > paper! It gets dried out and used for heat & building material etc. So > there! I said it : ) >> >> This Matronic's Kolb sight is great & reading what you all are up to > makes my day! (Betcha never knew that your questions, insights and even > the spats are appreciated over here : ) Can't get into things to deeply > but I have a handful of friends who are instructors to the Afghan Police > & they also like reading the site. Also met a Lithuanian soldier > (Priest) who has a C-172 and we talk Kolb (Lite Sport & Exp) stuff all > the time. His take is - that Rotax is pricing themselves out of the > market. Yeah! the new 912 is the price of an average home in FL these > days. (That's bad news on both counts : ( >> >> I'll be back home to the Villages in FL about a month after the > baseball AllStar break. Between planes at the moment but would like to > build another MKIII - so maybe see you all at Sun & Fun next year. Or > maybe back at Homer's place. >> >> Keep em all straight - John H.! >> >> Out! (from my mountain top vacation resort retreat chateau) >> >> "When in Doubt - Attack!" Gen Geo S Patton >> >> Jim >> >> Jim Cote, CW3 >> >> >> >> >> =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > >> et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com >> llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 8 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:28:16 PM PST US > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! > From: "Dennis Thate" > > > Jim , > > In-spite of your wonderful and feel-good propaganda rant for the home > front friends. > The Narcissistic self indulgence of a few here have driven away tons > of enthusiastic Kolb flyers . I doubt Homer, a good friend , would have > approved > ! :( > > -------- > Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist > invents > the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368553#368553 > > > ________________________________ Message 9 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:22:31 PM PST US > From: David Kulp > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! > > > Dennis, > > If ever you were to make a list of your shortcomings, could we agree > that speaking for Homer should be rather close to the top of it? > > Dave Kulp > Bethlehem, PA > FireFly 11DMK > > On 3/14/2012 9:25 PM, Dennis Thate wrote: >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dennis Thate" >> >> Jim , >> >> In-spite of your wonderful and feel-good propaganda rant for the home >> front > friends. The Narcissistic self indulgence of a few here have driven away > tons > of enthusiastic Kolb flyers . I doubt Homer, a good friend , would have > approved > ! :( >> >> -------- >> Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist >> invents > the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368553#368553 >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:04:10 PM PST US From: Phil Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sun And Fun Hi Dan: I'm building a FireFly right now - just finished putting the first (brush) coat of PolyBrush on this evening. I'm roughly six weeks away from flying ( my 2nd Kolb). If you want to refuel here at 1a0 (Dallas Bay Skypark), I can have no-ethan ol (93 octane ok?) ready for you, and then let you enjoy a quick visit at t he house; I'm only 1/2 mile (4 minutes) from the airport - right around the corner. Phil H. FF11-4-00076 --- On Fri, 3/16/12, Dan Liles wrote: From: Dan Liles Subject: Kolb-List: Sun And Fun I am considering flying to sun and fun. I will be flying out of KSYI in She lbyville TN south of Nashville. Is there anyone between me and FL or close to me that will be flying to S&F ? and if so would you entertain a tag along? thanks, Dan Liles MK3Xtra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kolb-List Digest Server" Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 2:00 AM Subject: Kolb-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 03/14/12 > * > > ======================== >---Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ======================== > > Today's complete Kolb-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below.- The .html file includes the Digest formatt ed > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation.- The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Kolb-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html& Chapter 12-03-14&Archive=Kolb > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&C hapter 12-03-14&Archive=Kolb > > > ======================== ======================= >---EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > ======================== ======================= > > >- - - - ---------------------------------------------------- --------- >- - - - - - - - - - - - ---Kolb-List Digest Archive >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --- >- - - - - - - - - ---Total Messages Posted Wed 03/ 14/12: 9 >- - - - ---------------------------------------------------- --------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > >- ---1. 10:42 AM - Re: Sun and Fun 2012- (cspoke) >- ---2. 12:01 PM - WWII Vet / Pilot checks out my Kolb Firestar- (Dennis Thate) >- ---3. 02:13 PM - Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! ( FlyColt45@aol.com) >- ---4. 02:34 PM - Re: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of Yo u!- (John Hauck) >- ---5. 04:58 PM - Re: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of Yo u! (chris davis) >- ---6. 05:36 PM - Re: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of Yo u! (George Alexander) >- ---7. 05:40 PM - Re: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of Yo u! (Michael Welch) >- ---8. 06:28 PM - Re: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of Yo u! (Dennis Thate) >- ---9. 07:22 PM - Re: Re: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one o f You! (David Kulp) > > > > ________________________________- Message 1 ___________________________ __________ > > > Time: 10:42:42 AM PST US > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Sun and Fun 2012 > From: "cspoke" > > > John and All, > I will be driving in on Wednesday and staying through Saturday. Looking f orward > to seeing everybody again and meeting new Kolbers. > > -------- > Craig Spoke > Mark111 Xtra > VW Redrive > Lillian, AL > cspoke@mediacombb.net > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368496#368496 > > > ________________________________- Message 2 ___________________________ __________ > > > Time: 12:01:54 PM PST US > Subject: Kolb-List: WWII Vet / Pilot checks out my Kolb Firestar > From: "Dennis Thate" > > > ............---and 'Still likes the stick better' !- [Wink] > > -------- > Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society.- The optimist invents > the airplane and the pessimist the parachute.- ~Gil Stern > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368505#368505 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/wwii_vet_537.jpg > > > ________________________________- Message 3 ___________________________ __________ > > > Time: 02:13:48 PM PST US > From: FlyColt45@aol.com > Subject: Kolb-List: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! > > Kolbers, > > Greetings from my +7k ft mountain top, vacation resort retreat- chateau , > way up & out - in a FOB (forward op base), somewhere in- AF.- May sou nd nice > except that we're surrounded by much higher mountains;- and on a bad da y - > that's not a good thing ; ) > I'm sitting here tonight in my little container type room, on a pitch dar k, > starless night under blackout conditions reading my Kolb list and the > activity- surrounding this years Sun & Fun.- Was just there with Dick > Kuntzleman a couple of yrs ago (when I could afford it : ) > > It's been snowing about 2 in every evening & warming to the 40 in the- AM - > just enough to turn that new snow into 4 in of mud. The bone- chilling, > freezing weather has left for the season.- For fellow- flyers who kno w about > such military things (&- many have had- it worse I'm sure), also know that > life gets more active as bad weather leaves. > > I can tell you that you haven't seen mountains - until you've flown- ab ove > and around these babies : ) > Whether I'm strapped in a rotary or can walk to a small window in a C-130 > or 17, I'm always looking for a safe (survivable), place in case things g o > wrong. I'm sure that every Kolber would be thinking the same :- ) > The answer to that safe place is: Faith in God, the Flight Crew and the > Equipment, that you good people back home sent over here.- If you- ha ven't > gotten a "Thank You" lately; I can assure you that every soldier thinks a bout > > all three more than a few times while over here. Whatever your opinion on > the war - You are Officially Thanked! > > For those of you who don't know me, I'm a Kolber. Owned 3.- But more > importantly than that; I was/am privileged to have known Homer & family - & the > > Old Kolb company people.- All fine people - as I know the New- Kolb C o to be. > > For me - there is nothing like reading Dennis or John giving insight from > their deep history with these planes, a spirited debate over the use of V Gs > : )- or even the occasional petty stuff. (The mud slingers we can all d o > without). > And just so that you Kolb builders/flyers feel some connection to me -- be > it known that I celebrated my 60th b-day last month - here, (not that you 're > all 60ish : ) {The worse part for me - in getting this deployment was the > train up.- Wasn't a sign on my back that said "take it easy on this- old > man, he's gonna be 60" : }---Army doesn't much care about individua l > challenges.- Either you make it or you don't!- I was lucky. > So -- get that Kolb built and get into the air!- Or - for you- "Lurke rs": > Yes - the Kolb is the safest plane to fly!- Get off the- fence, (you ain't > that old), spend the money; build or get help building a- Kolb; and sta rt > living the rest of your life - if flying is your- passion.- As they s ay, "Just > > Do It"! > > In my job as an advisor, I've gotten to many places around this- countr y > and parts of it are beyond beautiful. > The sky on most nights is majestic!- Brilliant stars look like the perf ect > planetarium against a lighter than Navy blue sky. All the more illuminate d > by the waves and waves of snow covered mountain tops seemingly- running up > to it. Totally belies what's going on under it all - on the- ground. > And then there's the "well traveled" areas that resemble the ugliest side > of the farthermost planet!- And the smells are putrid and the dust- s torms > clog your breathing. > > Before I turn this note into a novel, I should mention the people.-- -For > the most part - not unlike any of us or your kids.- Was pelted by kids > playfully throwing snowballs one day as we passed by.- They of course d idn't > recognize our perceived threat & why we weren't enjoying it- -- since anyone of > > those snowballs could have been something worse!- But kids- will be k ids and > I would have done the same as a little guy : )---I- must admit th at I had a > fleeting thought about dropping my gear and tossing a- few back at them .. > > A few of the byproducts of our involvement here is that we use thousands of > plastic water bottles. Hydration is important and the Army takes care of > it- soldiers by providing pallets and pallets of water.- Those discar ded > plastic water bottles are used as a source to heat "homes" on those bone > chilling nights. > Also (& I'll be delicate): In this country we don't flush used toilet > paper!- It gets dried out and used for heat & building material- etc. - So there! > > I said it : ) > > This Matronic's Kolb sight is great & reading what you all are up to make s > my day! (Betcha never knew that your questions, insights and even the > spats are appreciated over here : ) Can't get into things to deeply but I have > a > handful of friends who are instructors to the Afghan Police & they also > like- reading the site. Also met a Lithuanian soldier (Priest) who has a C-172 > > and we- talk Kolb (Lite Sport & Exp) stuff all the time. His take is - that > Rotax is- pricing themselves out of the market. Yeah!- the new 912 is the > price of an- average home in FL these days.- (That's bad news on both counts > : ( > > I'll be back home to the Villages in FL about a month after the baseball > AllStar break.- Between planes at the moment but would like to build an other > MKIII - so maybe see you all at Sun & Fun next year.- Or maybe- back at > Homer's place. > > Keep em all straight - John H.! > > Out!- (from my mountain top vacation resort retreat chateau) > > "When in Doubt - Attack!"- - Gen Geo S Patton > > Jim > > Jim Cote, CW3 > > > ________________________________- Message 4 ___________________________ __________ > > > Time: 02:34:02 PM PST US > From: "John Hauck" > Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! > > > > I'll be back home to the Villages in FL about a month after the baseball > AllStar break. Between planes at the moment but would like tobuild anothe r > MKIII - so maybe see you all at Sun & Fun next year. Or maybe back at > Homer's place. > > > Jim Cote, CW3 > > > Hurry home and get that new MKIII.- Kolb Aircraft can use the business. > > john h > mkIII > Titus, Alabama > > > ________________________________- Message 5 ___________________________ __________ > > > Time: 04:58:52 PM PST US > From: chris davis > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! > > Jim , Thank you for your service and your letter . What is a 60 year old ko > lber doing in AF? Hope you make it through your tour safely and come home t > o build and fly again. C=0A=0A=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs= 0AGlider Pil > ot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly=0A=0A=0A_______________ __________ > _______=0AFrom: "FlyColt45@aol.com" =0ATo: kolb-li st@mat > ronics.com =0ASent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 5:13 PM=0ASubject: Kolb -List: > Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You!=0A=0A=0AKolbers,=0A =0AGreeti > ngs from my-+7k ft mountain top, vacation resort retreat chateau, way up > & out-- in a FOB (forward op base), somewhere in AF.- May sound nice ex > cept that we're surrounded by much higher mountains; and-on a bad day - t > hat's not a good thing ; )=0AI'm sitting here tonight in my little cont aine > r type room, on a pitch dark, starless night under blackout conditions re ad > ing my Kolb list and the activity surrounding-this years Sun & Fun.- Wa > s just there with Dick Kuntzleman a couple of yrs ago (when I could affor d > it : )=0A=0AIt's been snowing about 2 in every evening & warming to t he 40 > in the AM --just enough to-turn that new snow into 4 in of mud. The bon > e chilling, freezing weather has left for the season.- For fellow flyers > -who know about such military things (&- many-have had it worse I'm s > ure), also know that life gets more active as bad weather leaves. =0A =0AI > -can tell you that you haven't seen mountains - until you've flown above > and around these babies : )---=0AWhether I'm strapped in a rotary or > can walk to a small window in a C-130 or 17,-I'm always looking for a saf > e (survivable), place in case things go wrong. I'm sure that every Kolber w > ould be thinking the same : )--=0AThe answer to that safe place is: Fai > th in God, the Flight Crew and the Equipment,-that you good people back h > ome sent over here.- If you haven't gotten a "Thank You" lately; I can as > sure you that every soldier thinks about all three more than a few times wh > ile over here. Whatever your opinion on the war - You are Officially Than ke > d!=0A=0AFor those of you who don't know me, I'm a Kolber. Owned 3.- B ut m > ore importantly than that; I was/am-privileged to have known Homer & fami > ly & the Old Kolb company people.- All fine people - as I know the New Ko > lb Co to be.- =0AFor me - there is nothing like reading Dennis or John gi > ving insight from their deep history with these planes, a spirited debate o > ver the use of VGs : ) or even the occasional petty stuff. (The mud sling er > s we can all do without).-=0AAnd just so that you Kolb builders/flyers- > feel some connection to me - be it known that I celebrated my 60th b-day la > st month - here, (not that you're all 60ish : )-{The worse part for me - > in getting this deployment was the train up.- Wasn't a sign-on my back > that said "take it easy on this old man, he's gonna be 60" : } - Army doe > sn't much care about individual challenges.- Either you make it or you do > n't!- I was lucky.=0ASo -- get that Kolb built and get into the air!- O > r - for you "Lurkers":-Yes - the Kolb is the safest plane to fly!- Get > off the fence, (you ain't that old), spend the money; build or get help b ui > lding a Kolb;-and start living the rest of your life - if flying is your > passion.--As they say, "Just Do It"!=0A=0AIn my job as an advisor, I' ve > gotten-to-many places around this country and parts of it are beyond b > eautiful. =0AThe sky on most nights is majestic!- Brilliant stars look li > ke the perfect planetarium against a lighter than Navy blue sky. All the mo > re illuminated by the waves and waves of snow covered mountain tops seemi ng > ly running up to it. Totally belies what's going on under it all-- on the > ground.-=0AAnd then there's the "well traveled" areas that resemble the > ugliest side of the farthermost planet!- And the smells are-putrid and > the dust storms clog your breathing.=0A=0ABefore I turn this note int o a no > vel, I should mention the people.- For the most part - not unlike any of > us or your kids.- Was pelted by kids playfully throwing snowballs one day > as we passed by.- They of course didn't recognize our perceived threat & > why we weren't enjoying it- - since anyone of those snowballs could have > been something worse!- But kids will be kids and I would have done the s > ame as a little guy : )-- I must admit that I had a fleeting thought ab > out dropping my gear and tossing a few back at them.=0A=0AA few of th e bypr > oducts of our involvement here is that we use thousands of plastic water bo > ttles. Hydration is important and the Army takes care of it soldiers by p ro > viding pallets and pallets of water.- Those discarded plastic water bottl > es are used as a source to heat "homes" on those bone chilling nights.= 0AAl > so (& I'll be delicate): In this country we don't flush used toilet paper ! > -It gets dried out and used for heat & building material etc.- So there > ! I said it : )=0A=0AThis Matronic's Kolb sight is great & reading wh at you > all are up to makes my day! (Betcha never knew that your questions, insig h > ts and even the spats are appreciated over here : ) Can't get into things t > o deeply but I have a handful of friends who are instructors to the Afgha n > Police & they also like reading the site. Also met a Lithuanian soldier ( Pr > iest) who has a C-172 and we talk Kolb (Lite Sport & Exp) stuff all the t im > e. His take is - that Rotax is pricing themselves out of the market. Yeah ! > - the new 912 is the price of an average home in FL these days.- (That' > s bad news on both counts : (=0A=0AI'll be back home to the Villages in FL > about a month after the baseball AllStar break.- Between planes at the mo > ment but would like to-build another MKIII - so maybe see you all at Sun > & Fun next year.- Or maybe back at Homer's place.-=0A=0AKeep em all s tr > aight - John H.!=0A=0AOut!- (from my mountain top vacation resort ret reat > chateau)=0A=0A"When in Doubt - Attack!"--- Gen Geo S Patton=0A=0A Jim > =================== > > ________________________________- Message 6 ___________________________ __________ > > > Time: 05:36:51 PM PST US > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! > From: "George Alexander" > > > > FlyColt45(at)aol.com wrote: >> Kolbers, >> >>- Greetings from my +7k ft mountain top, vacation resort retreat- cha teau, way > up & out - in a FOB (forward op base), somewhere in- AF. >> >> S N I P >> >>- I'll be back home to the Villages in FL about a month after the baseb all AllStar > break.- Between planes at the moment but would like to build- another MKIII > - so maybe see you all at Sun & Fun next year.- Or maybe- back at Hom er's > place. >> >>- Keep em all straight - John H.! >> >>- Out!- (from my mountain top vacation resort retreat chateau) >> >>- "When in Doubt - Attack!"- - Gen Geo S Patton >> >>- Jim >> >>- Jim Cote, CW3 >> >> >> > > > For those of you who need to put a face with a name....... > Jim Cote was among the attendees at the first "Kolb Builders/Flyers/Admir ers Northeast > Gathering" in June 2004. > > Here's a link to his picture: > http://home.comcast.net/~kolbplanes/NEFlyin_28.html > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > -------- > George Alexander > FS II R503- N709FS > http://www.oh2fly.net > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368543#368543 > > > ________________________________- Message 7 ___________________________ __________ > > > Time: 05:40:56 PM PST US > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! > From: Michael Welch > > Chris, > >- An explanation;- I'm sure Jim will correct me if I'm wrong....but he re > is how "I" understood him. > > He said he was at a FOB (forward operating base)....somewhere in > Afghanistan.- Very likely he is a civilian, > working as an independent contractor (like both of my boys were doing). > >- Speaking of my boys in Afghanistan.....the oldest one finally came > home two weeks ago, permanently.- No more going back back.- He said > his last night at Bagram AB the anti-American maggots were lobbing > hand-thrown bombs over the base walls all night. >- He finally managed to snag a VERY well nice job just south of > Minneapolis, not too far from his home in Buffalo, MN. >- (The youngest one came home permanently a year and a half ago) > >- Jim Cote;- - speaking of "The Villages", I'm moving there to retir e as > soon as I can unload my present house.- I've been there for their tour > for the last > two summers.- Someday............ > >- To keep this Kolb related, everybody buy a Kolb airplane.- (there! > better than a dumb video, it'n it) > > Mike Welch > > > On Mar 14, 2012, at 6:57 PM, chris davis wrote: > >> Jim , Thank you for your service and your letter . What is a 60 year > old kolber doing in AF? Hope you make it through your tour safely and > come home to build and fly again. C >> >> Chris Davis >> KXP 503 492 hrs >> Glider Pilot >> Disabled from crash building Firefly >> From: "FlyColt45@aol.com" >> To: kolb-list@matronics.com >> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 5:13 PM >> Subject: Kolb-List: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! >> >> Kolbers, >> >> Greetings from my +7k ft mountain top, vacation resort retreat > chateau, way up & out - in a FOB (forward op base), somewhere in AF. > May sound nice except that we're surrounded by much higher mountains; > and on a bad day - that's not a good thing ; ) >> I'm sitting here tonight in my little container type room, on a pitch > dark, starless night under blackout conditions reading my Kolb list and > the activity surrounding this years Sun & Fun.- Was just there with Dic k > Kuntzleman a couple of yrs ago (when I could afford it : ) >> >> It's been snowing about 2 in every evening & warming to the 40 in the > AM - just enough to turn that new snow into 4 in of mud. The bone > chilling, freezing weather has left for the season.- For fellow flyers > who know about such military things (&- many have had it worse I'm > sure), also know that life gets more active as bad weather leaves. >> >> I can tell you that you haven't seen mountains - until you've flown > above and around these babies : ) >> Whether I'm strapped in a rotary or can walk to a small window in a > C-130 or 17, I'm always looking for a safe (survivable), place in case > things go wrong. I'm sure that every Kolber would be thinking the same : > ) >> The answer to that safe place is: Faith in God, the Flight Crew and > the Equipment, that you good people back home sent over here.- If you > haven't gotten a "Thank You" lately; I can assure you that every soldier > thinks about all three more than a few times while over here. Whatever > your opinion on the war - You are Officially Thanked! >> >> For those of you who don't know me, I'm a Kolber. Owned 3.- But more > importantly than that; I was/am privileged to have known Homer & family > & the Old Kolb company people.- All fine people - as I know the New Kol b > Co to be. >> For me - there is nothing like reading Dennis or John giving insight > from their deep history with these planes, a spirited debate over the > use of VGs : ) or even the occasional petty stuff. (The mud slingers we > can all do without). >> And just so that you Kolb builders/flyers feel some connection to me - > be it known that I celebrated my 60th b-day last month - here, (not that > you're all 60ish : ) {The worse part for me - in getting this deployment > was the train up.- Wasn't a sign on my back that said "take it easy on > this old man, he's gonna be 60" : }---Army doesn't much care about > individual challenges.- Either you make it or you don't!- I was lucky .. >> So -- get that Kolb built and get into the air!- Or - for you > "Lurkers": Yes - the Kolb is the safest plane to fly!- Get off the > fence, (you ain't that old), spend the money; build or get help building > a Kolb; and start living the rest of your life - if flying is your > passion.- As they say, "Just Do It"! >> >> In my job as an advisor, I've gotten to many places around this > country and parts of it are beyond beautiful. >> The sky on most nights is majestic!- Brilliant stars look like the > perfect planetarium against a lighter than Navy blue sky. All the more > illuminated by the waves and waves of snow covered mountain tops > seemingly running up to it. Totally belies what's going on under it all > - on the ground. >> And then there's the "well traveled" areas that resemble the ugliest > side of the farthermost planet!- And the smells are putrid and the dust > storms clog your breathing. >> >> Before I turn this note into a novel, I should mention the people. > For the most part - not unlike any of us or your kids.- Was pelted by > kids playfully throwing snowballs one day as we passed by.- They of > course didn't recognize our perceived threat & why we weren't enjoying > it- - since anyone of those snowballs could have been something worse! > But kids will be kids and I would have done the same as a little guy : ) >- I must admit that I had a fleeting thought about dropping my gear and > tossing a few back at them. >> >> A few of the byproducts of our involvement here is that we use > thousands of plastic water bottles. Hydration is important and the Army > takes care of it soldiers by providing pallets and pallets of water. > Those discarded plastic water bottles are used as a source to heat > "homes" on those bone chilling nights. >> Also (& I'll be delicate): In this country we don't flush used toilet > paper!- It gets dried out and used for heat & building material etc.- So > there! I said it : ) >> >> This Matronic's Kolb sight is great & reading what you all are up to > makes my day! (Betcha never knew that your questions, insights and even > the spats are appreciated over here : ) Can't get into things to deeply > but I have a handful of friends who are instructors to the Afghan Police > & they also like reading the site. Also met a Lithuanian soldier > (Priest) who has a C-172 and we talk Kolb (Lite Sport & Exp) stuff all > the time. His take is - that Rotax is pricing themselves out of the > market. Yeah!- the new 912 is the price of an average home in FL these > days.- (That's bad news on both counts : ( >> >> I'll be back home to the Villages in FL about a month after the > baseball AllStar break.- Between planes at the moment but would like to > build another MKIII - so maybe see you all at Sun & Fun next year.- Or > maybe back at Homer's place. >> >> Keep em all straight - John H.! >> >> Out!- (from my mountain top vacation resort retreat chateau) >> >> "When in Doubt - Attack!"- - Gen Geo S Patton >> >> Jim >> >> Jim Cote, CW3 >> >> >> >> >> =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > >> et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com >> llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________- Message 8 ___________________________ __________ > > > Time: 06:28:16 PM PST US > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! > From: "Dennis Thate" > > > Jim , > > In-spite of your wonderful and- feel-good propaganda rant for the home front friends. > The Narcissistic self indulgence of a few here have driven away- tons > of enthusiastic Kolb flyers .- I doubt Homer, a good friend , would hav e approved > !- :( > > -------- > Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society.- The optimist invents > the airplane and the pessimist the parachute.- ~Gil Stern > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368553#368553 > > > ________________________________- Message 9 ___________________________ __________ > > > Time: 07:22:31 PM PST US > From: David Kulp > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! > > > Dennis, > > If ever you were to make a list of your shortcomings, could we agree > that speaking for Homer should be rather close to the top of it? > > Dave Kulp > Bethlehem, PA > FireFly 11DMK > > On 3/14/2012 9:25 PM, Dennis Thate wrote: >> -->- Kolb-List message posted by: "Dennis Thate" >> >> Jim , >> >> In-spite of your wonderful and- feel-good propaganda rant for the home front > friends.- The Narcissistic self indulgence of a few here have driven aw ay tons > of enthusiastic Kolb flyers .- I doubt Homer, a good friend , would hav e approved > !- :( >> >> -------- >> Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society.- The optimist invents > the airplane and the pessimist the parachute.- ~Gil Stern >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368553#368553 >> >> > > > > > > > > > > le, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:01:14 PM PST US From: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! Well Hello Jim Cote, Yes, I remember you from the Homer Kolb Homecoming Get Togethers. You were the one that gave out the GI Rations. I showed them to my grandson and he was real interested, but wouldn't taste them. I was the oldest Kolb Pilot there at the age of 70, now hit 75. It was good to hear from you. Keep up the good work that I am sure you are doing over there. Bill Varnes Original Kolb FireStar Audubon NJ Do Not Archive In a message dated 3/14/2012 5:14:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, FlyColt45@aol.com writes: For those of you who don't know me, I'm a Kolber. Owned 3. But more importantly than that; I was/am privileged to have known Homer & family & the Old Kolb company people. All fine people - as I know the New Kolb Co to be. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:41:16 PM PST US From: "Dan Liles" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sun And Fun Phil, thanks for the gracious offer. I may take you up on it. I will be in touch when I figure out my flight plan. Thanks again, Dan Liles MK3Xtra ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:03 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sun And Fun Hi Dan: I'm building a FireFly right now - just finished putting the first (brush) coat of PolyBrush on this evening. I'm roughly six weeks away from flying (my 2nd Kolb). If you want to refuel here at 1a0 (Dallas Bay Skypark), I can have no-ethanol (93 octane ok?) ready for you, and then let you enjoy a quick visit at the house; I'm only 1/2 mile (4 minutes) from the airport - right around the corner. Phil H. FF11-4-00076 --- On Fri, 3/16/12, Dan Liles wrote: From: Dan Liles Subject: Kolb-List: Sun And Fun To: kolb-list@matronics.com Date: Friday, March 16, 2012, 8:38 PM I am considering flying to sun and fun. I will be flying out of KSYI in Shelbyville TN south of Nashville. Is there anyone between me and FL or close to me that will be flying to S&F? and if so would you entertain a tag along? thanks, Dan Liles MK3Xtra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kolb-List Digest Server" To: "Kolb-List Digest List" Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 2:00 AM Subject: Kolb-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 03/14/12 > * > > > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > > > Today's complete Kolb-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. 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(FlyColt45@aol.com) > 4. 02:34 PM - Re: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! (John Hauck) > 5. 04:58 PM - Re: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! (chris davis) > 6. 05:36 PM - Re: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! (George Alexander) > 7. 05:40 PM - Re: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! (Michael Welch) > 8. 06:28 PM - Re: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! (Dennis Thate) > 9. 07:22 PM - Re: Re: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! (David Kulp) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 10:42:42 AM PST US > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Sun and Fun 2012 > From: "cspoke" > > > John and All, > I will be driving in on Wednesday and staying through Saturday. Looking forward > to seeing everybody again and meeting new Kolbers. > > -------- > Craig Spoke > Mark111 Xtra > VW Redrive > Lillian, AL > cspoke@mediacombb.net > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368496#368496 > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 12:01:54 PM PST US > Subject: Kolb-List: WWII Vet / Pilot checks out my Kolb Firestar > From: "Dennis Thate" > > > ............ and 'Still likes the stick better' ! [Wink] > > -------- > Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents > the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368505#368505 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/wwii_vet_537.jpg > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:13:48 PM PST US > From: FlyColt45@aol.com > Subject: Kolb-List: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! > > Kolbers, > > Greetings from my +7k ft mountain top, vacation resort retreat chateau, > way up & out - in a FOB (forward op base), somewhere in AF. May sound nice > except that we're surrounded by much higher mountains; and on a bad day - > that's not a good thing ; ) > I'm sitting here tonight in my little container type room, on a pitch dark, > starless night under blackout conditions reading my Kolb list and the > activity surrounding this years Sun & Fun. Was just there with Dick > Kuntzleman a couple of yrs ago (when I could afford it : ) > > It's been snowing about 2 in every evening & warming to the 40 in the AM - > just enough to turn that new snow into 4 in of mud. The bone chilling, > freezing weather has left for the season. For fellow flyers who know about > such military things (& many have had it worse I'm sure), also know that > life gets more active as bad weather leaves. > > I can tell you that you haven't seen mountains - until you've flown above > and around these babies : ) > Whether I'm strapped in a rotary or can walk to a small window in a C-130 > or 17, I'm always looking for a safe (survivable), place in case things go > wrong. I'm sure that every Kolber would be thinking the same : ) > The answer to that safe place is: Faith in God, the Flight Crew and the > Equipment, that you good people back home sent over here. If you haven't > gotten a "Thank You" lately; I can assure you that every soldier thinks about > > all three more than a few times while over here. Whatever your opinion on > the war - You are Officially Thanked! > > For those of you who don't know me, I'm a Kolber. Owned 3. But more > importantly than that; I was/am privileged to have known Homer & family & the > > Old Kolb company people. All fine people - as I know the New Kolb Co to be. > > For me - there is nothing like reading Dennis or John giving insight from > their deep history with these planes, a spirited debate over the use of VGs > : ) or even the occasional petty stuff. (The mud slingers we can all do > without). > And just so that you Kolb builders/flyers feel some connection to me - be > it known that I celebrated my 60th b-day last month - here, (not that you're > all 60ish : ) {The worse part for me - in getting this deployment was the > train up. Wasn't a sign on my back that said "take it easy on this old > man, he's gonna be 60" : } Army doesn't much care about individual > challenges. Either you make it or you don't! I was lucky. > So -- get that Kolb built and get into the air! Or - for you "Lurkers": > Yes - the Kolb is the safest plane to fly! Get off the fence, (you ain't > that old), spend the money; build or get help building a Kolb; and start > living the rest of your life - if flying is your passion. As they say, "Just > > Do It"! > > In my job as an advisor, I've gotten to many places around this country > and parts of it are beyond beautiful. > The sky on most nights is majestic! Brilliant stars look like the perfect > planetarium against a lighter than Navy blue sky. All the more illuminated > by the waves and waves of snow covered mountain tops seemingly running up > to it. Totally belies what's going on under it all - on the ground. > And then there's the "well traveled" areas that resemble the ugliest side > of the farthermost planet! And the smells are putrid and the dust storms > clog your breathing. > > Before I turn this note into a novel, I should mention the people. For > the most part - not unlike any of us or your kids. Was pelted by kids > playfully throwing snowballs one day as we passed by. They of course didn't > recognize our perceived threat & why we weren't enjoying it - since anyone of > > those snowballs could have been something worse! But kids will be kids and > I would have done the same as a little guy : ) I must admit that I had a > fleeting thought about dropping my gear and tossing a few back at them. > > A few of the byproducts of our involvement here is that we use thousands of > plastic water bottles. Hydration is important and the Army takes care of > it soldiers by providing pallets and pallets of water. Those discarded > plastic water bottles are used as a source to heat "homes" on those bone > chilling nights. > Also (& I'll be delicate): In this country we don't flush used toilet > paper! It gets dried out and used for heat & building material etc. So there! > > I said it : ) > > This Matronic's Kolb sight is great & reading what you all are up to makes > my day! (Betcha never knew that your questions, insights and even the > spats are appreciated over here : ) Can't get into things to deeply but I have > a > handful of friends who are instructors to the Afghan Police & they also > like reading the site. Also met a Lithuanian soldier (Priest) who has a C-172 > > and we talk Kolb (Lite Sport & Exp) stuff all the time. His take is - that > Rotax is pricing themselves out of the market. Yeah! the new 912 is the > price of an average home in FL these days. (That's bad news on both counts > : ( > > I'll be back home to the Villages in FL about a month after the baseball > AllStar break. Between planes at the moment but would like to build another > MKIII - so maybe see you all at Sun & Fun next year. Or maybe back at > Homer's place. > > Keep em all straight - John H.! > > Out! (from my mountain top vacation resort retreat chateau) > > "When in Doubt - Attack!" Gen Geo S Patton > > Jim > > Jim Cote, CW3 > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:34:02 PM PST US > From: "John Hauck" > Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! > > > > I'll be back home to the Villages in FL about a month after the baseball > AllStar break. Between planes at the moment but would like tobuild another > MKIII - so maybe see you all at Sun & Fun next year. Or maybe back at > Homer's place. > > > Jim Cote, CW3 > > > Hurry home and get that new MKIII. Kolb Aircraft can use the business. > > john h > mkIII > Titus, Alabama > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 04:58:52 PM PST US > From: chris davis > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! > > Jim , Thank you for your service and your letter . What is a 60 year old ko > lber doing in AF? Hope you make it through your tour safely and come home t > o build and fly again. C=0A=0A=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pil > ot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly=0A=0A=0A_________________________ > _______=0AFrom: "FlyColt45@aol.com" =0ATo: kolb-list@mat > ronics.com =0ASent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 5:13 PM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: > Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You!=0A=0A=0AKolbers,=0A=0AGreeti > ngs from my-+7k ft mountain top, vacation resort retreat chateau, way up > & out-- in a FOB (forward op base), somewhere in AF.- May sound nice ex > cept that we're surrounded by much higher mountains; and-on a bad day - t > hat's not a good thing ; )=0AI'm sitting here tonight in my little containe > r type room, on a pitch dark, starless night under blackout conditions read > ing my Kolb list and the activity surrounding-this years Sun & Fun.- Wa > s just there with Dick Kuntzleman a couple of yrs ago (when I could afford > it : )=0A=0AIt's been snowing about 2 in every evening & warming to the 40 > in the AM --just enough to-turn that new snow into 4 in of mud. The bon > e chilling, freezing weather has left for the season.- For fellow flyers > -who know about such military things (&- many-have had it worse I'm s > ure), also know that life gets more active as bad weather leaves. =0A=0AI > -can tell you that you haven't seen mountains - until you've flown above > and around these babies : )---=0AWhether I'm strapped in a rotary or > can walk to a small window in a C-130 or 17,-I'm always looking for a saf > e (survivable), place in case things go wrong. I'm sure that every Kolber w > ould be thinking the same : )--=0AThe answer to that safe place is: Fai > th in God, the Flight Crew and the Equipment,-that you good people back h > ome sent over here.- If you haven't gotten a "Thank You" lately; I can as > sure you that every soldier thinks about all three more than a few times wh > ile over here. Whatever your opinion on the war - You are Officially Thanke > d!=0A=0AFor those of you who don't know me, I'm a Kolber. Owned 3.- But m > ore importantly than that; I was/am-privileged to have known Homer & fami > ly & the Old Kolb company people.- All fine people - as I know the New Ko > lb Co to be.- =0AFor me - there is nothing like reading Dennis or John gi > ving insight from their deep history with these planes, a spirited debate o > ver the use of VGs : ) or even the occasional petty stuff. (The mud slinger > s we can all do without).-=0AAnd just so that you Kolb builders/flyers- > feel some connection to me - be it known that I celebrated my 60th b-day la > st month - here, (not that you're all 60ish : )-{The worse part for me - > in getting this deployment was the train up.- Wasn't a sign-on my back > that said "take it easy on this old man, he's gonna be 60" : } - Army doe > sn't much care about individual challenges.- Either you make it or you do > n't!- I was lucky.=0ASo -- get that Kolb built and get into the air!- O > r - for you "Lurkers":-Yes - the Kolb is the safest plane to fly!- Get > off the fence, (you ain't that old), spend the money; build or get help bui > lding a Kolb;-and start living the rest of your life - if flying is your > passion.--As they say, "Just Do It"!=0A=0AIn my job as an advisor, I've > gotten-to-many places around this country and parts of it are beyond b > eautiful. =0AThe sky on most nights is majestic!- Brilliant stars look li > ke the perfect planetarium against a lighter than Navy blue sky. All the mo > re illuminated by the waves and waves of snow covered mountain tops seeming > ly running up to it. Totally belies what's going on under it all-- on the > ground.-=0AAnd then there's the "well traveled" areas that resemble the > ugliest side of the farthermost planet!- And the smells are-putrid and > the dust storms clog your breathing.=0A=0ABefore I turn this note into a no > vel, I should mention the people.- For the most part - not unlike any of > us or your kids.- Was pelted by kids playfully throwing snowballs one day > as we passed by.- They of course didn't recognize our perceived threat & > why we weren't enjoying it- - since anyone of those snowballs could have > been something worse!- But kids will be kids and I would have done the s > ame as a little guy : )-- I must admit that I had a fleeting thought ab > out dropping my gear and tossing a few back at them.=0A=0AA few of the bypr > oducts of our involvement here is that we use thousands of plastic water bo > ttles. Hydration is important and the Army takes care of it soldiers by pro > viding pallets and pallets of water.- Those discarded plastic water bottl > es are used as a source to heat "homes" on those bone chilling nights.=0AAl > so (& I'll be delicate): In this country we don't flush used toilet paper! > -It gets dried out and used for heat & building material etc.- So there > ! I said it : )=0A=0AThis Matronic's Kolb sight is great & reading what you > all are up to makes my day! (Betcha never knew that your questions, insigh > ts and even the spats are appreciated over here : ) Can't get into things t > o deeply but I have a handful of friends who are instructors to the Afghan > Police & they also like reading the site. Also met a Lithuanian soldier (Pr > iest) who has a C-172 and we talk Kolb (Lite Sport & Exp) stuff all the tim > e. His take is - that Rotax is pricing themselves out of the market. Yeah! > - the new 912 is the price of an average home in FL these days.- (That' > s bad news on both counts : (=0A=0AI'll be back home to the Villages in FL > about a month after the baseball AllStar break.- Between planes at the mo > ment but would like to-build another MKIII - so maybe see you all at Sun > & Fun next year.- Or maybe back at Homer's place.-=0A=0AKeep em all str > aight - John H.!=0A=0AOut!- (from my mountain top vacation resort retreat > chateau)=0A=0A"When in Doubt - Attack!"--- Gen Geo S Patton=0A=0AJim > =================== > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 05:36:51 PM PST US > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! > From: "George Alexander" > > > > FlyColt45(at)aol.com wrote: >> Kolbers, >> >> Greetings from my +7k ft mountain top, vacation resort retreat chateau, way > up & out - in a FOB (forward op base), somewhere in AF. >> >> S N I P >> >> I'll be back home to the Villages in FL about a month after the baseball AllStar > break. Between planes at the moment but would like to build another MKIII > - so maybe see you all at Sun & Fun next year. Or maybe back at Homer's > place. >> >> Keep em all straight - John H.! >> >> Out! (from my mountain top vacation resort retreat chateau) >> >> "When in Doubt - Attack!" Gen Geo S Patton >> >> Jim >> >> Jim Cote, CW3 >> >> >> > > > For those of you who need to put a face with a name....... > Jim Cote was among the attendees at the first "Kolb Builders/Flyers/Admirers Northeast > Gathering" in June 2004. > > Here's a link to his picture: > http://home.comcast.net/~kolbplanes/NEFlyin_28.html > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > -------- > George Alexander > FS II R503 N709FS > http://www.oh2fly.net > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368543#368543 > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 05:40:56 PM PST US > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! > From: Michael Welch > > Chris, > > An explanation; I'm sure Jim will correct me if I'm wrong....but here > is how "I" understood him. > > He said he was at a FOB (forward operating base)....somewhere in > Afghanistan. Very likely he is a civilian, > working as an independent contractor (like both of my boys were doing). > > Speaking of my boys in Afghanistan.....the oldest one finally came > home two weeks ago, permanently. No more going back back. He said > his last night at Bagram AB the anti-American maggots were lobbing > hand-thrown bombs over the base walls all night. > He finally managed to snag a VERY well nice job just south of > Minneapolis, not too far from his home in Buffalo, MN. > (The youngest one came home permanently a year and a half ago) > > Jim Cote; speaking of "The Villages", I'm moving there to retire as > soon as I can unload my present house. I've been there for their tour > for the last > two summers. Someday............ > > To keep this Kolb related, everybody buy a Kolb airplane. (there! > better than a dumb video, it'n it) > > Mike Welch > > > On Mar 14, 2012, at 6:57 PM, chris davis wrote: > >> Jim , Thank you for your service and your letter . What is a 60 year > old kolber doing in AF? Hope you make it through your tour safely and > come home to build and fly again. C >> >> Chris Davis >> KXP 503 492 hrs >> Glider Pilot >> Disabled from crash building Firefly >> From: "FlyColt45@aol.com" >> To: kolb-list@matronics.com >> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 5:13 PM >> Subject: Kolb-List: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! >> >> Kolbers, >> >> Greetings from my +7k ft mountain top, vacation resort retreat > chateau, way up & out - in a FOB (forward op base), somewhere in AF. > May sound nice except that we're surrounded by much higher mountains; > and on a bad day - that's not a good thing ; ) >> I'm sitting here tonight in my little container type room, on a pitch > dark, starless night under blackout conditions reading my Kolb list and > the activity surrounding this years Sun & Fun. Was just there with Dick > Kuntzleman a couple of yrs ago (when I could afford it : ) >> >> It's been snowing about 2 in every evening & warming to the 40 in the > AM - just enough to turn that new snow into 4 in of mud. The bone > chilling, freezing weather has left for the season. For fellow flyers > who know about such military things (& many have had it worse I'm > sure), also know that life gets more active as bad weather leaves. >> >> I can tell you that you haven't seen mountains - until you've flown > above and around these babies : ) >> Whether I'm strapped in a rotary or can walk to a small window in a > C-130 or 17, I'm always looking for a safe (survivable), place in case > things go wrong. I'm sure that every Kolber would be thinking the same : > ) >> The answer to that safe place is: Faith in God, the Flight Crew and > the Equipment, that you good people back home sent over here. If you > haven't gotten a "Thank You" lately; I can assure you that every soldier > thinks about all three more than a few times while over here. Whatever > your opinion on the war - You are Officially Thanked! >> >> For those of you who don't know me, I'm a Kolber. Owned 3. But more > importantly than that; I was/am privileged to have known Homer & family > & the Old Kolb company people. All fine people - as I know the New Kolb > Co to be. >> For me - there is nothing like reading Dennis or John giving insight > from their deep history with these planes, a spirited debate over the > use of VGs : ) or even the occasional petty stuff. (The mud slingers we > can all do without). >> And just so that you Kolb builders/flyers feel some connection to me - > be it known that I celebrated my 60th b-day last month - here, (not that > you're all 60ish : ) {The worse part for me - in getting this deployment > was the train up. Wasn't a sign on my back that said "take it easy on > this old man, he's gonna be 60" : } Army doesn't much care about > individual challenges. Either you make it or you don't! I was lucky. >> So -- get that Kolb built and get into the air! Or - for you > "Lurkers": Yes - the Kolb is the safest plane to fly! Get off the > fence, (you ain't that old), spend the money; build or get help building > a Kolb; and start living the rest of your life - if flying is your > passion. As they say, "Just Do It"! >> >> In my job as an advisor, I've gotten to many places around this > country and parts of it are beyond beautiful. >> The sky on most nights is majestic! Brilliant stars look like the > perfect planetarium against a lighter than Navy blue sky. All the more > illuminated by the waves and waves of snow covered mountain tops > seemingly running up to it. Totally belies what's going on under it all > - on the ground. >> And then there's the "well traveled" areas that resemble the ugliest > side of the farthermost planet! And the smells are putrid and the dust > storms clog your breathing. >> >> Before I turn this note into a novel, I should mention the people. > For the most part - not unlike any of us or your kids. Was pelted by > kids playfully throwing snowballs one day as we passed by. They of > course didn't recognize our perceived threat & why we weren't enjoying > it - since anyone of those snowballs could have been something worse! > But kids will be kids and I would have done the same as a little guy : ) > I must admit that I had a fleeting thought about dropping my gear and > tossing a few back at them. >> >> A few of the byproducts of our involvement here is that we use > thousands of plastic water bottles. Hydration is important and the Army > takes care of it soldiers by providing pallets and pallets of water. > Those discarded plastic water bottles are used as a source to heat > "homes" on those bone chilling nights. >> Also (& I'll be delicate): In this country we don't flush used toilet > paper! It gets dried out and used for heat & building material etc. So > there! I said it : ) >> >> This Matronic's Kolb sight is great & reading what you all are up to > makes my day! (Betcha never knew that your questions, insights and even > the spats are appreciated over here : ) Can't get into things to deeply > but I have a handful of friends who are instructors to the Afghan Police > & they also like reading the site. Also met a Lithuanian soldier > (Priest) who has a C-172 and we talk Kolb (Lite Sport & Exp) stuff all > the time. His take is - that Rotax is pricing themselves out of the > market. Yeah! the new 912 is the price of an average home in FL these > days. (That's bad news on both counts : ( >> >> I'll be back home to the Villages in FL about a month after the > baseball AllStar break. Between planes at the moment but would like to > build another MKIII - so maybe see you all at Sun & Fun next year. Or > maybe back at Homer's place. >> >> Keep em all straight - John H.! >> >> Out! (from my mountain top vacation resort retreat chateau) >> >> "When in Doubt - Attack!" Gen Geo S Patton >> >> Jim >> >> Jim Cote, CW3 >> >> >> >> >> =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > >> et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com >> llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:28:16 PM PST US > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! > From: "Dennis Thate" > > > Jim , > > In-spite of your wonderful and feel-good propaganda rant for the home front friends. > The Narcissistic self indulgence of a few here have driven away tons > of enthusiastic Kolb flyers . I doubt Homer, a good friend , would have approved > ! :( > > -------- > Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents > the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368553#368553 > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:22:31 PM PST US > From: David Kulp > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Greetings from Afghanistan - from one of You! > > > Dennis, > > If ever you were to make a list of your shortcomings, could we agree > that speaking for Homer should be rather close to the top of it? > > Dave Kulp > Bethlehem, PA > FireFly 11DMK > > On 3/14/2012 9:25 PM, Dennis Thate wrote: >> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dennis Thate" >> >> Jim , >> >> In-spite of your wonderful and feel-good propaganda rant for the home front > friends. The Narcissistic self indulgence of a few here have driven away tons > of enthusiastic Kolb flyers . I doubt Homer, a good friend , would have approved > ! :( >> >> -------- >> Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents > the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=368553#368553 >> >> > > > > > > > > > > onics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/N= - MATRONICS sp; -Matt Dralle, L.com/contribution" ====== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.