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1. 04:57 AM - Re: twinstar MK II info (Pat Ladd)
2. 05:16 AM - Re: twinstar MK II info (Herb Gayheart)
3. 05:25 AM - Re: twinstar MK II info (cristalclear13)
4. 05:44 AM - Re: Re: twinstar MK II info (Herb Gayheart)
5. 08:52 AM - Re: Re: twinstar MK II info (b young)
6. 09:45 AM - =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=9Cgood?= guy =?ISO-8859-1?Q?law=9D?= Private Strips (Dennis Thate)
7. 01:34 PM - Wing Cradle Dimensions... (Lockamy, Jack CIV Atlantic Targets Marine Ops, AD.5.3.3 / Key West Det)
8. 01:45 PM - Re: Wing Cradle Dimensions... (Michael Welch)
9. 01:59 PM - Re: Wing Cradle Dimensions... (jackinkeywest)
10. 02:06 PM - Re: Re: Wing Cradle Dimensions... (kinne russ)
11. 02:20 PM - Re: Re: Wing Cradle Dimensions... (Robert Laird)
12. 05:03 PM - Re: Sun and Fun 2012 (tombaisley)
13. 05:30 PM - Re: Re: Sun and Fun 2012 (Larry Cottrell)
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Subject: | Re: twinstar MK II info |
what are the operating limitations on this aircraft such >>
Does no one ever think of asking the manufacturers this sort of stuff?.
. They have all this at their fingertips and would be delighted to
have another owners name and address. to add to their data bank. They
can supply or put you in touch with the suppliers of anything you may
need and will help you in any way they can. They are nice people and in
these straightened times could probably do with anything which may lead
to a sale.
Pat
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Subject: | Re: twinstar MK II info |
Pat
I think the Mk II is an orphan... The design died back at the
old Kolb factory...same with the earlier Ultra Star... The last I
knew the New New Kolb will build and support the Two versions of the
MKIII,. the Firestar and its variants and the Firefly...Might even
build a Kolbra or Slingshot? Good question for Travis...what's in
the stable? Then again...they are likely at Sun N Fun... Herb
At 06:57 AM 3/28/2012, you wrote:
>what are the operating limitations on this aircraft such >>
>
>Does no one ever think of asking the manufacturers this sort of stuff?.
>. They have all this at their fingertips and would be delighted to
>have another owners name and address. to add to their data bank.
>They can supply or put you in touch with the suppliers of anything
>you may need and will help you in any way they can. They are nice
>people and in these straightened times could probably do with
>anything which may lead to a sale.
>
>Pat
>
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Subject: | Re: twinstar MK II info |
pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com wrote:
> what are the operating limitations on this aircraft such >>
>
> Does no one ever think of asking the manufacturers this sort of stuff?.
> . They have all this at their fingertips
> Pat
>
Actually I remembered last night that the scan I provided did come from the only
specs documentation Travis or Dennis from The New Kolb Aircraft Co. had on the
Mark II Twinstar.
The New Kolb Aircraft Co. never did sell the Mark II kit (it was before their time),
but they will help as much as possible since they do have information about
it. They have always been very helpful with me when I had a question or needed
a part.
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Cristal Waters
Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Sept 2007
Private Pilot Aug 2008
ELSA Repairman for N193Y April 2008
Rotax 2 stroke maintenance April 2009
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Subject: | Re: twinstar MK II info |
The wing is quite similar to the Firestar and Firefly version...Same
ribs and same spar... 5 inch... Root rib is different, but the new
Firestar version should work...Drag spar and main spar H section
could be the same as the Firestar II? Near as I know there are
only two rib designs in all of the Kolbs from the US
forward... So...NNK can sell you ribs, spars and boom tubes for
them... Aluminum tubing naturally..Cro Molly too... Landing gear
legs....Wheels and brakes... Spar to lift strut bolts...H sections...
for spar and tail boom... All that I can think of at the
moment. Travis loves to sell parts...!! :-) Herb
At 07:25 AM 3/28/2012, you wrote:
><cristalclearwaters@gmail.com>
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>pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com wrote:
> > what are the operating limitations on this aircraft such >>
> >
> > Does no one ever think of asking the manufacturers this sort of stuff?.
> > . They have all this at their fingertips
> > Pat
> >
>
>
>Actually I remembered last night that the scan I provided did come
>from the only specs documentation Travis or Dennis from The New Kolb
>Aircraft Co. had on the Mark II Twinstar.
>
>The New Kolb Aircraft Co. never did sell the Mark II kit (it was
>before their time), but they will help as much as possible since
>they do have information about it. They have always been very
>helpful with me when I had a question or needed a part.
>
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>Cristal Waters
>Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Sept 2007
>Private Pilot Aug 2008
>ELSA Repairman for N193Y April 2008
>Rotax 2 stroke maintenance April 2009
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
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>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369460#369460
>
>
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Subject: | Re: twinstar MK II info |
lmorgan100(at)charter.net wrote:
> Hi All,
> what are the operating limitations on this aircraft such as VNE and also how
to calculate weight and balance.
> I am sure it has been asked before but I could not locate the info.
> thanks for any help,
> Lee..
after reading this mornings mail, something happened and the light turned on...[
reverse senior moment] I went to my archive and found an article, I am guessing
it is a reprint from ultra light flying magazine December 1993, there are
4 pages 11 X 17 on the firestar II the specifications is a small corner of
the last page.
Firestar II
(with two seats)
specifications
engine rotax 447
wing span 27 ft 8 in
wing area 149 sq ft
length 20 ft 3 in
empty weight 275 lbs
gross weight 725 lbs
fuel capacity 10 gal
cruise speed 60 mph
vne 90 mph
rate of climb 650 fpm ( with 2 people)
takeoff distance 250 ft (with two people )
Kolb Company
Phoenixvile, pa
it would take some time but I could scan the article in sections and send to any
one who would need it.
boyd y
mkiii
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Subject: | =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=9Cgood?= guy =?ISO-8859-1?Q?law=9D?= Private |
Strips
Yesthe bill has been introduced!
It adds non-commercial aviation activities to the Recreational Use Statutes
in Minnesota. The RUS is called the good guy lawbasically, if you allow people
to use your land WITHOUT CHARGE and dont CREATE a problem (like digging
a ditch across a runway) that you cant be sued.
Heres a link to our bill in Minnesota
http://theraf.org/menu/recreational-use-statutes
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bin/bldbill.php?bill=S2377.0.html&session=ls87
Get Involved !
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
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Subject: | Wing Cradle Dimensions... |
From: | "Lockamy, Jack CIV Atlantic Targets Marine Ops, AD.5.3.3 / Key West Det" |
<jack.lockamy@navy.mil>
Hello fellow 'Kolbers',
I am new to the list (first time posting...). I recently purchased a Kolb Mark
III Classic (M3C) that I will have to transport in an enclosed 24' car hauler/trailer
to its new home in Key West, FL. The wings have been removed from the
plane and I would like to pre-build a wing dolly/cradle to safely hold the
wings for the long ride.
Does anyone have drawings or instructions I could build a wing dolly or cradle
from?
Thanks in advance,
Jack Lockamy
Key West, FL
Kolb Mark III-C w/582
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Ex Co-Owner: Cirrus SR-20
Ex Builder/Owner: RV-7A
Ex Builder/Owner: Sonex TD
Ex Builder/Owner: Sonerai II TD
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Subject: | Re: Wing Cradle Dimensions... |
Hi Jack,
You might consider one of these; if this is something you are
interested in, let me know and I'll see if
I can come up with some dimensions for you.
BTW, it makes rolling your plane around on your shop floor mighty
easy, es[ecially whe you add my handy-dandy
front wheel dollys, too.
Mike Welch
MkIII Xtra wannabe
On Mar 28, 2012, at 3:33 PM, Lockamy, Jack CIV Atlantic Targets Marine
Ops, AD.5.3.3 / Key West Det wrote:
> Hello fellow 'Kolbers',
>
> I am new to the list (first time posting...). I recently purchased a
Kolb Mark III Classic (M3C) that I will have to transport in an
enclosed 24' car hauler/trailer to its new home in Key West, FL. The
wings have been removed from the plane and I would like to pre-build a
wing dolly/cradle to safely hold the wings for the long ride.
>
> Does anyone have drawings or instructions I could build a wing dolly
or cradle from?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Jack Lockamy
> Key West, FL
> Kolb Mark III-C w/582
> ---------------------------
> Ex Co-Owner: Cirrus SR-20
> Ex Builder/Owner: RV-7A
> Ex Builder/Owner: Sonex TD
> Ex Builder/Owner: Sonerai II TD
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Subject: | Re: Wing Cradle Dimensions... |
Hi Mike,
Thanks for the pics and reply. That is a cradle I can definitely use once I get
the wings hung again and start transporting the plane to/from the field.
For this first transport, I am looking to build a plywood cradle for the two wings
so I can strap them against the wall of the car hauler. I just need the dimensions
of the wings so I can make my cut-outs in the plywood and lay down some
old carpet or foam for padding against the surfaces. Something cheap, easy
to build but sturdy enoughto handle the long ride.
Thanks again!
Jack in Key West
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Subject: | Re: Wing Cradle Dimensions... |
Jack-in-Cayo-Hueso
How long is your 'long ride'?
Just curious
do not archive
On Mar 28, 2012, at 4:58 PM, jackinkeywest wrote:
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> Hi Mike,
>
> Thanks for the pics and reply. That is a cradle I can definitely use once I
get the wings hung again and start transporting the plane to/from the field.
>
> For this first transport, I am looking to build a plywood cradle for the two
wings so I can strap them against the wall of the car hauler. I just need the
dimensions of the wings so I can make my cut-outs in the plywood and lay down
some old carpet or foam for padding against the surfaces. Something cheap, easy
to build but sturdy enoughto handle the long ride.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Jack in Key West
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369489#369489
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Subject: | Re: Wing Cradle Dimensions... |
Jack --
When I transport my Kolb long distances, I use broad nylon straps to
suspend them from the ceiling of the enclosed trailer I have, and then
padded the wings on both sides with moving blankets (and padded the straps
from the wing LE with foam rubber). They made the trip from California to
Texas without a problem, and saved me the trouble of constructing cradles.
-- Robert
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 4:06 PM, kinne russ <russk50@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Jack-in-Cayo-Hueso
> How long is your 'long ride'?
> Just curious
> do not archive
>
>
> On Mar 28, 2012, at 4:58 PM, jackinkeywest wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > Thanks for the pics and reply. That is a cradle I can definitely use
> once I get the wings hung again and start transporting the plane to/from
> the field.
> >
> > For this first transport, I am looking to build a plywood cradle for the
> two wings so I can strap them against the wall of the car hauler. I just
> need the dimensions of the wings so I can make my cut-outs in the plywood
> and lay down some old carpet or foam for padding against the surfaces.
> Something cheap, easy to build but sturdy enoughto handle the long ride.
> >
> > Thanks again!
> >
> > Jack in Key West
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369489#369489
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Subject: | Re: Sun and Fun 2012 |
any pics?
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Subject: | Re: Sun and Fun 2012 |
of what?
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:03 PM, tombaisley <tombaisley@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> any pics?
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