Kolb-List Digest Archive

Fri 03/30/12


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 04:48 AM - Re: Cayo Hueso (was Wing Cradle Dimensions) (Thom Riddle)
     2. 12:39 PM - Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=9Cgood?= guy =?ISO-8859-1?Q?law=9D?= Private Strips (Dennis Thate)
     3. 08:14 PM - Re: Kolb quit revealed (Rv40072)
     4. 09:00 PM - Re: Re: Kolb quit revealed (Larry Cottrell)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:48:22 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Cayo Hueso (was Wing Cradle Dimensions)
    From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr@gmail.com>
    Russ, My apologies. I stand corrected. Although my translation from English to Spanish was correct, my knowledge of the history of Key West and Cayo Hueso was zero. And my presumption on your use of Google Translate was uncalled for. Thanks for the education. do not archive -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Truth is what stands the test of experience. - Albert Einstein Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369594#369594


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    Time: 12:39:15 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=9Cgood?= guy =?ISO-8859-1?Q?law=9D?= Private
    Strips
    From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman@frontier.com>
    http://www.aopa.org/advocacy/articles/2012/120319minnesota-bills-would-expand-airfield-access.html?WT.mc_id=120323epilot&WT.mc_sect=adv Thank You AOPA Members -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369632#369632


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    Time: 08:14:07 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kolb quit revealed
    From: "Rv40072" <Rv40072@gmail.com>
    I have been following these discussions about Kolb quits for some time. In case anyone has not figured it out, Kolb quit is nothing more than a stall. The first thing to grasp is that stalls are not a function of airspeed. They are function of Angle of Attack. Depending on weight, g-load applied, air density, the airplane will stall at different airspeeds., and can in fact be stalled at any airspeed. The airplane will however, always stall at the same angle of attack. The following link will give one a good start on understanding stalls. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stall_(flight) Vic, cudos for pursuing a better understanding, but instead of focusing on what airspeed it stalls at, focus on how it feels just before it stalls. The second alternative would be to build a simple angle of attack indicator, then you would have a visual warning of impending stall. Have fun, and safe flying. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=369668#369668


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    Time: 09:00:55 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kolb quit revealed
    From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
    On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Rv40072 <Rv40072@gmail.com> wrote: I have been following these discussions about Kolb quits for some time. In case anyone has not figured it out, Kolb quit is nothing more than a stall. Gang, While not claiming to be any kind of an aviation expert, I do have experience stalling a Kolb. All that experience that I have gained can be yours for what it is worth. That would be practically nothing as none of you will make any use of it and have to do it on your own until you have perfected the ability to stall, as have I. I too have been watching this thread and the discontent that it has caused over the months. I have seen the "angle of attack" indicator mentioned several times. I am afraid that another gauge, or indicator is a total waste of time and limited space that is generally present in my Kolb. Even if the industry actually had such a creature that I could afford or find a place for in my Firestar, it would do me absolutely no good. The reason for that of course is that it takes so little in time and space for a perfectly good landing to go to stall, that I, in my advancing state of decomposition, am unable to monitor anything else. :-) The explanation is of course absolutely correct. It is just as I mentioned above there is little time between flying and falling if you choose to fly the plane on the edge of its envelope. I do all my landings at idle, as I most often need to limit my roll out, due to the places that I land. With that in mind, I do generally fly as close to the edge of the envelope as I feel safe doing. My biggest problem with landing is over controlling. If I hold the stick in my full ham hand I will generally over control. If I use my finger tips on the stick, the landings are better and smoother. You don't have the inertia to recover from too early or too severe flare. Of course if you use the standard amount of extra speed for your descent as called for in most pilot manuals, your landings will be just fine. As the man says, the key is to get used to how it feels. Larry




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