---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 04/25/12: 19 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:22 AM - Eroding EAA Benefits (Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/ENS) 2. 08:19 AM - Re: Eroding EAA Benefits (william sullivan) 3. 09:18 AM - Re: Eroding EAA Benefits (Larry Cottrell) 4. 11:13 AM - Re: Eroding EAA Benefits (Thom Riddle) 5. 11:32 AM - Re: Re: Eroding EAA Benefits (Lockamy, Jack CIV Atlantic Targets Marine Ops, AD.5.3.3 / Key West Det) 6. 01:07 PM - Re: Eroding EAA Benefits (Beauford) 7. 01:16 PM - Re: Eroding EAA Benefits (Lockamy, Jack CIV Atlantic Targets Marine Ops, AD.5.3.3 / Key West Det) 8. 01:26 PM - Specifications for the dolly used to support the wings in the folded position.Clyde (Clyde MacQuarrie) 9. 01:53 PM - Re: Specifications for the dolly used to support the wings in the folded position (Michael Welch) 10. 02:07 PM - EAA organization changes (pcking) 11. 02:29 PM - Re: Eroding EAA Benefits (Dana Hague) 12. 03:58 PM - Re: Specifications for the dolly used to support the wings in the folded position (Clyde MacQuarrie) 13. 05:09 PM - Re: EAA organization changes (Beauford) 14. 05:11 PM - Re: Eroding EAA Benefits (Charlie England) 15. 05:43 PM - Re: Eroding EAA Benefits (Rick Lewis) 16. 06:09 PM - Re: Specifications for the dolly used to support the wings in the folded position (Michael Welch) 17. 08:07 PM - Re: Eroding EAA Benefits (Dave Carr) 18. 08:16 PM - Re: EAA organization changes (pcking) 19. 08:46 PM - Re: Eroding EAA Benefits (Richard Pike) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:22:47 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Eroding EAA Benefits From: "Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/ENS" (NOTE: Subject title was changed. Was: Safe rather than Sorry) Rick Neilsen wrote: << There is also a flight charting service that I get free by being a EAA member that is wonderful for cross country flying. You print a stack of charts for your flight path that are sized for a knee board. >> Hi, Rick - If you are referring to that wonderful, free on-line service called "AeroPlanner" which used to be sponsored by EAA, that service was discontinued in January 2012. Sad. It was quite helpful, and I used it a lot as an EAA member myself. This is just one more step that EAA has taken to alienate their core membership base under the excuse of saving a few bucks. I am seriously considering discontinuing my membership with EAA because of that. First was the elimination of the beloved "Experimenter" magazine (later called "Sport Pilot"). Then, EAA changed editors and formats of their "Sport Aviation" magazine, and it now looks very much like "Flying" magazine, with pilot reports on Beechcraft Barons, Cessna Skylanes, synthetic-vision cockpit displays that cost tens of thousands of dollars, and 3-million-dollar turboprops (TBM-850). If I want to read about crap like that, I'll subscribe to AOPA or Flying magazine. There's a reason we build our own Kolbs: it's our affordable alternative to the expensive store-bought stuff. I was so upset, I wrote a letter to EAA, telling them of how their members' tangible benefits (Experimenter, AeroPlanner) were eroding, and that focus on the original mission of EAA was slipping away. Their answer to me was that they are trying to reach out to a broader audience. It's sickening to me to recount all of the Tom Poberezney editor's columns over the past two decades where he drones on and on about the homebuilder community and grassroots aviation as EAA's core focus, while reality reveals that they are just trying to find ways to increase their revenues and the hell with the majority of members whose primary goal is to enjoy sport flying on a budget. Am I the only one who feels this way about EAA? Sorry for the rant - I hope someone from EAA monitors the Kolb List. Dennis Kirby Mark-3, 912ul, flying it since 2002 in Sandia Park, NM ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:19:38 AM PST US From: william sullivan Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Eroding EAA Benefits Dennis- I have noticed that there is only one column that is occasionally d evoted to ultralights.=C2- Not much in there any more about "how to".=C2 - I keep wondering why I still subscribe.=C2- Not very educational any more, just a lot of product reviews and "look what somebody did", but no sp ecifics.=C2- So much for "experimental". =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2 -=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2 -=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- Bill Sullivan do not archive --- On Wed, 4/25/12, Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/ENS wrote: From: Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/ENS Subject: Kolb-List: Eroding EAA Benefits (NOTE: Subject title was changed.=C2- Was: Safe rather than Sorry) =C2- Rick Neilsen wrote: =C2-=C2-<< There is also a flight charting service that I get free by being a EAA member that is wonderful for cross country f lying. You print a stack of charts for your flight path that are sized for a knee board. >> =C2- =C2-Hi, Rick =93 =C2-If you are referring to that wonderful, free on-line service called =9CAeroPlanner =9D which used to be sponsored by EAA, that service was discontinued in Jan uary 2012.=C2- Sad.=C2- It was quite helpful, and I used it a lot as an EAA member myself. =C2-This is just one more step that EAA has taken to alienate their core membership base under the excuse of saving a few bucks. =C2- I am seriously considering discontinuing my membership with EAA beca use of that.=C2- First was the elimination of the beloved =9CExperi menter=9D magazine (later called =9CSport Pilot=9D).=C2 - Then, EAA changed editors and formats of their =9CSport Aviation =9D magazine, and it now looks very much like =9CFlying=9D magazine, with pilot rep orts on Beechcraft Barons, Cessna Skylanes, synthetic-vision cockpit displa ys that cost tens of thousands of dollars, and 3-million-dollar turboprops (TBM-850).=C2- If I want to read about crap like that, I=99ll subsc ribe to AOPA or Flying magazine.=C2- There=99s a reason we build ou r own Kolbs: it=99s our affordable alternative to the expensive store -bought stuff. =C2-I was so upset, I wrote a letter to EAA, telling them of how their members=99 tangible benefits (Experimenter, AeroPlanner) were eroding, and that focus on the original mission of EAA was slipping a way.=C2- Their answer to me was that they are trying to reach out to a br oader audience. =C2-It=99s sickening to me to recount all of the To m Poberezney editor=99s columns over the past two decades where he dr ones on and on about the homebuilder community and grassroots aviation as E AA=99s core focus, while reality reveals that they are just trying to find ways to increase their revenues and the hell with the major ity of members whose primary goal is to enjoy sport flying on a budget. =C2 -Am I the only one who feels this way about EAA? =C2-Sorry for the rant =93 I hope someone from EAA monitors the Kolb List. =C2-Dennis Kir -======================== ============0A=0A ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:18:51 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Eroding EAA Benefits From: Larry Cottrell I gave it up long ago when they would not allow me to pay my dues, but leave off the magazines and the charges for them. They allowed members to do that for a while, but apparently decided that they were losing money. Larry On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 9:18 AM, william sullivan wrote: > Dennis- I have noticed that there is only one column that is occasionally > devoted to ultralights. Not much in there any more about "how to". I ke ep > wondering why I still subscribe. Not very educational any more, just a l ot > of product reviews and "look what somebody did", but no specifics. So mu ch > for "experimental". > > Bill Sullivan > do not archive > > --- On *Wed, 4/25/12, Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/ENS < > Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>* wrote: > > > From: Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/ENS > Subject: Kolb-List: Eroding EAA Benefits > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Date: Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 10:22 AM > > (NOTE: Subject title was changed. Was: Safe rather than Sorry) > > > Rick Neilsen wrote: << There is also a flight charting service that I > get free by being a EAA member that is wonderful for cross country flying .. > You print a stack of charts for your flight path that are sized for a kne e > board. >> > > > Hi, Rick ' > > > If you are referring to that wonderful, free on-line service called > =93AeroPlanner=94 which used to be sponsored by EAA, that service was > discontinued in January 2012. Sad. It was quite helpful, and I used it a > lot as an EAA member myself. > > > This is just one more step that EAA has taken to alienate their core > membership base under the excuse of saving a few bucks. I am seriously > considering discontinuing my membership with EAA because of that. First > was the elimination of the beloved =93Experimenter=94 magazine (later cal led > =93Sport Pilot=94). Then, EAA changed editors and formats of their =93Sp ort > Aviation=94 magazine, and it now looks very much like =93Flying=94 magazi ne, with > pilot reports on Beechcraft Barons, Cessna Skylanes, synthetic-vision > cockpit displays that cost tens of thousands of dollars, and > 3-million-dollar turboprops (TBM-850). If I want to read about crap like > that, I=92ll subscribe to AOPA or Flying magazine. There=92s a reason we build > our own Kolbs: it=92s our affordable alternative to the expensive > store-bought stuff. > > > I was so upset, I wrote a letter to EAA, telling them of how their > members=92 tangible benefits (Experimenter, AeroPlanner) were eroding, an d > that focus on the original mission of EAA was slipping away. Their answe r > to me was that they are trying to reach out to a broader audience. > > > It=92s sickening to me to recount all of the Tom Poberezney editor=92s co lumns > over the past two decades where he drones on and on about the homebuilder > community and grassroots aviation as EAA=92s core focus, while reality > reveals that they are just trying to find ways to increase their revenues > and the hell with the majority of members whose primary goal is to enjoy > sport flying on a budget. > > > Am I the only one who feels this way about EAA? > > > Sorry for the rant ' I hope someone from EAA monitors the Kolb List. > > > Dennis Kirby > > Mark-3, 912ul, flying it since 2002 in > > Sandia Park, NM > > *http://www==================== = > * > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:13:50 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Eroding EAA Benefits From: "Thom Riddle" The discontinuance of the free AeroPlanner, was the last straw for me. When my current EAA membership expires later this year, I do not plan to renew. I wrote them a letter relating my plans and their response was just use one of the other free flight planning systems. I said I was doing so and don't need EAA's help doing that. They have outlived their usefulness to me. do not archive -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Truth is what stands the test of experience. - Albert Einstein Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=371809#371809 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:32:38 AM PST US Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Eroding EAA Benefits From: "Lockamy, Jack CIV Atlantic Targets Marine Ops, AD.5.3.3 / Key West Det" Would be interesting to see if their membership has increased or declined these past 5 years. Granted the recession most likely caused some membership cancelations, but nonetheless, I too believe they (the EAA) have taken a path toward big money pilots/aircraft and have turned their backs on the little guys who gave life to the organization many years ago... I canceled my membership in 2008 when I took a break from flying. I rejoined in MAR-2012 and was very surprised how the monthly magazine has changed (and not in a positive way...). I will re-evaluate my membership this year to determine what benefit(s), if any, I get from my membership and the monthly magazine. My two cents. DO NOT ARCHIVE Jack in Key West ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:07:12 PM PST US From: "Beauford " Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Eroding EAA Benefits Dennis Kirby wrote: I was so upset, I wrote a letter to EAA, Am I the only one who feels this way about EAA? --------------------------------------- Brother Kirby. Those EAA boys must have quite a stack of those letters by now. I have written two of them myself. Mine had about the same tone as yours.neither provoked a response from the castle atop EAA Mountain. I fear that the sad truth of the matter is that homebuilding rag and tube folks like Kolbers are in a small minority in their current EAA universe. They have done the math and a clone of the miserable F-magazine, printed with six-color lithography on slick high clay-content paper is precisely where they want to be. Some years back stories were circulating about a falling-out between Poberezney senior and his boy over the organization's obvious change of direction away from "poor-boy" aviation as the lad got his hands on the wheel. One thing for sure, a deliberate corporate decision was made. Guess we need a new organization.this one seems to be broken. Beauford FF-076 Brandon, FL Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:16:59 PM PST US Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Eroding EAA Benefits From: "Lockamy, Jack CIV Atlantic Targets Marine Ops, AD.5.3.3 / Key West Det" Suggested name of our new organization: Amateur Built Aircraft Association (ABAA) And we get listed first in the directory according to alphabetical order... Jack in Key West '09 Kolb M3C w/582 (and PJ floats soon...) DO NOT ARCHIVE -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Beauford Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 16:06 Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Eroding EAA Benefits Dennis Kirby wrote: I was so upset, I wrote a letter to EAA, Am I the only one who feels this way about EAA? --------------------------------------- Brother Kirby. Those EAA boys must have quite a stack of those letters by now. I have written two of them myself. Mine had about the same tone as yours.neither provoked a response from the castle atop EAA Mountain. I fear that the sad truth of the matter is that homebuilding rag and tube folks like Kolbers are in a small minority in their current EAA universe. They have done the math and a clone of the miserable F-magazine, printed with six-color lithography on slick high clay-content paper is precisely where they want to be. Some years back stories were circulating about a falling-out between Poberezney senior and his boy over the organization's obvious change of direction away from "poor-boy" aviation as the lad got his hands on the wheel. One thing for sure, a deliberate corporate decision was made. Guess we need a new organization.this one seems to be broken. Beauford FF-076 Brandon, FL Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:26:30 PM PST US From: Clyde MacQuarrie Subject: Kolb-List: Specifications for the dolly used to support the wings in the folded position.Clyde I am trying to build a dolly to support the wings while loading the aircraft into my enclosed trailer. Could someone supply photo and specs? ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:53:26 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Specifications for the dolly used to support the wings in the folded position From: Michael Welch Clyde, Are you looking for something like this dolly? (see photos) The photos of the unit unpainted on my fancy colored concrete work were during it's construction phase. The ones with the blue cushioned upholstery are the final product. Mike Welch On Apr 25, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Clyde MacQuarrie wrote: > I am trying to build a dolly to support the wings while loading the aircraft into my enclosed trailer. Could someone supply photo and specs? > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:07:33 PM PST US From: "pcking" Subject: Kolb-List: EAA organization changes Beauford, May I suggest that you reserve judgment until the recent changes have had a chance to play out? EAA recently laid off 30+ members of the staff in a HQ reorganization. The below letter authored by Paul Poberezny and Rod Hightower was sent out to explain it. January 24, 2012 - EAA President/CEO Rod Hightower and EAA Founder Paul Poberezny jointly sent a letter to the leaders of EAA's nearly 1,000 chapters, outlining the reshaping and strengthening moves originally announced by the organization recently. In the letter, Hightower and Poberezny highlight how EAA members and aviators will benefit from those changes. The below is an excerpt that relates to homebuilding. Chad Jensen, Manager of Homebuilder Communities, has been promoted to EAA's senior leadership team and will report directly to me. You may be interested to know that Chad's position had reported three levels of management below EAA's president for many years. We have elevated Chad's role to a strategic level to ensure our continued leadership in amateur-built aircraft and to lead our future initiatives in homebuilding, including the expansion of our homebuilding area at AirVenture Oshkosh. Chad will also represent our special interest communities, including Homebuilt Aircraft Council, Ultralight Council, IAC, Warbirds, and Vintage by providing them a seat at the senior leadership table for the first time in decades. That Chad Jensen moved from 3 levels down the management chain to being one of 12 direct reports says to me that Homebuilding and Ultralights will receive more emphasis. The organization may be fixing itself. That's a good thing. http://www.eaa.org/chapters/resources/articles/120124_letter.asp PCKing Newsletter Editor Chapter 150 ----- Original Message ----- From: Beauford To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 4:05 PM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Eroding EAA Benefits Dennis Kirby wrote: I was so upset, I wrote a letter to EAA, Am I the only one who feels this way about EAA? --------------------------------------- Brother Kirby. Those EAA boys must have quite a stack of those letters by now. I have written two of them myself. Mine had about the same tone as yours.neither provoked a response from the castle atop EAA Mountain. I fear that the sad truth of the matter is that homebuilding rag and tube folks like Kolbers are in a small minority in their current EAA universe. They have done the math and a clone of the miserable F-magazine, printed with six-color lithography on slick high clay-content paper is precisely where they want to be. Some years back stories were circulating about a falling-out between Poberezney senior and his boy over the organization's obvious change of direction away from "poor-boy" aviation as the lad got his hands on the wheel. One thing for sure, a deliberate corporate decision was made. Guess we need a new organization.this one seems to be broken. Beauford FF-076 Brandon, FL Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:29:04 PM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Eroding EAA Benefits At 10:22 AM 4/25/2012, Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/ENS wrote: >Am I the only one who feels this way about EAA? Much of this same discussion on the forums at . Lots of unhappy members and former members. I didn't renew after Experimenter was dropped, and I haven't seen much to incline me to rejoin. -Dana -- And they shall beat their swords into plowshares, for if you hit a man with a plowshare, he'll know he's been hit! ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:58:56 PM PST US From: Clyde MacQuarrie Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Specifications for the dolly used to support the wings in the folded position Hi Michael. That's exactly what I want to build. Would you be able to supply measurements. Clyde. From: Michael Welch Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 5:52 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Specifications for the dolly used to support the wings in the folded position Clyde, Are you looking for something like this dolly? (see photos) The photos of the unit unpainted on my fancy colored concrete work were during it's construction phase. The ones with the blue cushioned upholstery are the final product. Mike Welch On Apr 25, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Clyde MacQuarrie wrote: I am trying to build a dolly to support the wings while loading the aircraft into my enclosed trailer. Could someone supply photo and specs? href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Kolb-List href="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ontribution ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:09:55 PM PST US From: "Beauford " Subject: RE: Kolb-List: EAA organization changes P.C. King wrote: Beauford, May I suggest that you reserve judgment until the recent changes have had a chance to play out? EAA recently laid off 30+ members of the staff in a HQ reorganization. The below letter authored by Paul Poberezny and Rod Hightower was sent out to explain it. http://www.eaa.org/chapters/resources/articles/120124_letter.asp PCKing Newsletter Editor Chapter 150 --------------------------------------------- Brother King. Thank you for the information, sir. Sounds promising. Will certainly hide and watch to see what happens. I believe the homebuilding little guys (and gals) have a real need for an organization with a builder support focus like the EAA of 20 or 25 years ago. I wish Mr. Paul Poberezny the best of luck in his efforts to redirect the organization and will be among the first to resume my membership when I detect substantive indications that the EAA once again actively supports the grassroots "poor-boy" aviation builder community. These builders enabled, carried and nurtured EAA when it was on life-support struggling to survive back in the beginning. They were repaid with abandonment. I noted that the letter did not mention the role of the son, Tom Poberezny, in the reformed organization. (?) I trust he was not among the 30 purged. Pardon my cynicism, but a lack of attention to detail is how I ended up in the Army one time.and married on yet another occasion. Details (or lack of same) can tie a man in knots. Thanks again for the information. Beauford FF076 Brandon, FL Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:11:20 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Eroding EAA Benefits I'd agree with just about everything said so far, but... I continue my membership for basically one reason: lobbying. EAA does do a tolerable job sucking up to the FAA & getting a few positive things out of them, and preventing or at least minimizing the damage of new regs. I did give up on that big airshow (what's the name?) many years ago; it was just too hard to find airplane stuff under the steak knives, folding ladders, etc. There's been discussion of starting a new organization for as long as I've been flying (since the early 90's), but nothing has come of the discussions. Even Pres. Paul started a new organization shortly after he retired (I joined), but it only lasted a few years before folding. I think that the best hope for change would be to find *somebody* that everyone could get behind, and get him on the board. This is pretty tough to pull off, since the current officers solicit everyone's 'proxy' when they get their renewal notice. It's very tough to get enough people at the annual meeting during the airshow to overcome the officers using their proxies to outvote any opposition, but there you go. Charlie ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 05:43:09 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Eroding EAA Benefits From: "Rick Lewis" I don't plan on renewing my EAA member ship when it comes due. I really don't get much from there magazines any more, as I flip through it and throw it away, and I only get a $5.00 off on entry fee to Sun-N-Fun. Kinda waste of money to me. What a shame, I used to feel good about being a member but it seems to me not worth my while any longer. -------- Rick Lewis (VW Watercooled Engine) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=371834#371834 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 06:09:58 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Specifications for the dolly used to support the wings in the folded position From: Michael Welch Clyde, Sure thing. I'll measure the dolly in the morning, and send you all the details. Mike On Apr 25, 2012, at 5:58 PM, Clyde MacQuarrie wrote: > Hi Michael. That=92s exactly what I want to build. Would you be able to supply measurements. Clyde. > > From: Michael Welch > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 5:52 PM > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Specifications for the dolly used to support the wings in the folded position > > Clyde, > > Are you looking for something like this dolly? (see photos) > > The photos of the unit unpainted on my fancy colored concrete work were during it's construction phase. The ones > with the blue cushioned upholstery are the final product. > > Mike Welch > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 08:07:11 PM PST US From: "Dave Carr" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Eroding EAA Benefits I live some 75 miles west of EAA and, while no longer active in flying due to age and infirmity do maintain contact with some old farts of similar age who are still active in EAA and friends with Paul Poberezny. There appears to be a changing of the guard at the top of EAA. young Poberezney has retired and they have brought in an outside man to be President of EAA. It seems that Paul sr. while over 90 has become more active at EAA and is seen regularly at EAA. I can only assume that Paul as CEO Emeritas is causing some change to the way EAA is run. I would assume his version of change would be more to our likeing then the way it is now. Lets hope so at least as it was fun in the 60s, 70s, and 80s. David Carr life member 67645 Century Club Coloma, Wisc. ----- Original Message ----- From: Beauford To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 3:05 PM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Eroding EAA Benefits Dennis Kirby wrote: I was so upset, I wrote a letter to EAA, Am I the only one who feels this way about EAA? --------------------------------------- Brother Kirby. Those EAA boys must have quite a stack of those letters by now. I have written two of them myself. Mine had about the same tone as yours.neither provoked a response from the castle atop EAA Mountain. I fear that the sad truth of the matter is that homebuilding rag and tube folks like Kolbers are in a small minority in their current EAA universe. They have done the math and a clone of the miserable F-magazine, printed with six-color lithography on slick high clay-content paper is precisely where they want to be. Some years back stories were circulating about a falling-out between Poberezney senior and his boy over the organization's obvious change of direction away from "poor-boy" aviation as the lad got his hands on the wheel. One thing for sure, a deliberate corporate decision was made. Guess we need a new organization.this one seems to be broken. Beauford FF-076 Brandon, FL Do Not Archive No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 04/25/12 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 08:16:26 PM PST US From: "pcking" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: EAA organization changes Beauford, Tom Poberezny formally retired last year when Rod Hightower formally became President. Hope springs eternal. Let's see what happens. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Beauford To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 8:08 PM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: EAA organization changes P.C. King wrote: Beauford, May I suggest that you reserve judgment until the recent changes have had a chance to play out? EAA recently laid off 30+ members of the staff in a HQ reorganization. The below letter authored by Paul Poberezny and Rod Hightower was sent out to explain it. http://www.eaa.org/chapters/resources/articles/120124_letter.asp PCKing Newsletter Editor Chapter 150 --------------------------------------------- Brother King. Thank you for the information, sir. Sounds promising. Will certainly hide and watch to see what happens. I believe the homebuilding little guys (and gals) have a real need for an organization with a builder support focus like the EAA of 20 or 25 years ago. I wish Mr. Paul Poberezny the best of luck in his efforts to redirect the organization and will be among the first to resume my membership when I detect substantive indications that the EAA once again actively supports the grassroots "poor-boy" aviation builder community. These builders enabled, carried and nurtured EAA when it was on life-support struggling to survive back in the beginning. They were repaid with abandonment. I noted that the letter did not mention the role of the son, Tom Poberezny, in the reformed organization. (?) I trust he was not among the 30 purged. Pardon my cynicism, but a lack of attention to detail is how I ended up in the Army one time.and married on yet another occasion. Details (or lack of same) can tie a man in knots. Thanks again for the information. Beauford FF076 Brandon, FL Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 08:46:48 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Eroding EAA Benefits From: "Richard Pike" You guys have summed it up nicely. I quit EAA last year. Our local sport flying club is now affiliated with USUA. We realize that all we are doing is keeping the bigger mice out of their small office, but it's really cheap and it makes us sound official... OTOH, when we were in the EAA, it cost a whole lot more, and we got similar benefits, so it's not all bad. -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 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