---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 04/29/12: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:42 AM - Re: Stewart's is good, Oratex may be better... (Pat Ladd) 2. 03:45 AM - Re: Re: Eroding EAA Benefits (Pat Ladd) 3. 03:47 AM - Re: Re: Eroding EAA Benefits (Pat Ladd) 4. 03:50 AM - Re: Re: Eroding EAA Benefits (Pat Ladd) 5. 07:25 AM - Re: Stewart water based aircraft finish (chris davis) 6. 08:51 AM - stewart system & oratex in uk? . (john taylor) 7. 09:51 AM - Re: Stewart water based aircraft finish (GARY JINDRA) 8. 11:59 AM - Re: stewart system & oratex in uk? . (Pat Ladd) 9. 02:56 PM - pitot tube (Larry Cottrell) 10. 03:46 PM - Re: pitot tube (John Hauck) 11. 06:35 PM - Re: pitot tube (Arksey@aol.com) 12. 10:35 PM - Owyhee air time (Larry Cottrell) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:42:54 AM PST US From: "Pat Ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Stewart's is good, Oratex may be better... Has anyone heard of Oratex?>> Hi, Oratex has been around for a little while in the UK and there are a few planes around covered with it. Main advantages are ease of application and the weight saving as the colour is in the Oratex thus saving the weight and the trouble of painting Cheers Pat ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:45:00 AM PST US From: "Pat Ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Eroding EAA Benefits "Bennies" is also a slang term for Benzedrine an amphetamine drug.>> Right. Thanks Pat ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:47:32 AM PST US From: "Pat Ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Eroding EAA Benefits it means "Benefits">> Thanks. Thats 2 explanations. Benzedrine being the other one Just to keep it musical "Who put the Benzedrine in Mrs Murphy`s Ovaltine?" Cheers Pat ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:50:01 AM PST US From: "Pat Ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Eroding EAA Benefits "Benny" was also a derogatory term for the millions of summer visitors >> In the south west of England they are called `grockles` Cheers Pat ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:25:02 AM PST US From: chris davis Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Stewart water based aircraft finish Gary, Thank you for an informative post and thanks for second post of pics ,nice looking aircraft.=0AWhat do you have for power and how does she fly? ---- Chris-=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisa bled from crash building Firefly=0A=0A=0A________________________________ =0AFrom: GARY JINDRA =0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 1:38 AM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: Stewart water based aircraft finish=0A=0A=0Amore pics=0A-=0AGary Jindra=0Amark 3 c=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: chris davis =0ATo: "kolb-list@matronics.com" =0ASent: Fri, April 27, 2012 6:14:41 PM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: Stewart wate r based aircraft finish=0A=0A=0AKolbers has any of you tried the Stewart wa ter based aircraft finishes?I may end up covering my Firefly in the basemen t and the Stitts fumes might just cost me my marriage!-- Does anyone kn ow-anything good or bad about this company? thanks-- Chris=0A=0A=0ACh ris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building F irefly=0A========= ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:51:25 AM PST US From: john taylor Subject: Kolb-List: stewart system & oratex in uk? . patt, heard of any negatives for either ??? tnx =0Ajb =0A =0A=0A___________ _____________________=0A From: Pat Ladd =0ATo: kolb -list@matronics.com =0ASent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 5:41 AM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: Stewart's is good, Oratex may be better...=0A =0A=0A =0A-Has anyone heard of Oratex?>> =0A=0AHi, =0AOratex has been around for a little while in =0Athe UK and there are a few planes around covered with it. =0A - =0AMain advantages- are ease of application =0Aand the weight saving as the colour is in the Oratex thus saving the weight and =0Athe trouble of === ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:51:17 AM PST US From: GARY JINDRA Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Stewart water based aircraft finish Chris,I have a 582 gray head.Plane flies well and gets off the ground fast. Still =0Amaking minor adjustments,rudder tab,prop pitch and just trying to get used to =0Athe plane.Installed Kolbs 2 six gallon fuel tanks,wish they were bigger =0Aalready.(some below deck boat tanks look pretty interesting if you haven't =0Astarted covering)=0A-I don't believe there could be a w eight saving using Stewarts if you want your =0Aplane to shine.Two to three coats brushed UV protection then three to four coats =0Afinish paint.The s hine does not start to show till the third coat.Paints are not =0Acheap=0A -=0AGary Jindra=0AMark 3 c=0A=0A26 hours=0A=0A=0A________________________ ________=0AFrom: chris davis capedavis@yahoo.com =0ATo: "kolb-list@matronic s.com" =0ASent: Sun, April 29, 2012 10:28:07 AM=0A Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Stewart water based aircraft finish=0A=0A=0AGary, T hank you for an informative post and thanks for second post of pics ,nice =0Alooking aircraft.=0AWhat do you have for power and how does she fly?- --- Chris-=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisable d from crash building Firefly=0A=0AFrom: GARY JINDRA =0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 1:38 AM=0A Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Stewart water based aircraft finish=0A=0A=0Amore pi cs=0A-=0AGary Jindra=0Amark 3 c=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AFrom: chris davis =0ATo: "kolb-list@matronics.com" =0ASe nt: Fri, April 27, 2012 6:14:41 PM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: Stewart water base d aircraft finish=0A=0A=0AKolbers has any of you tried the Stewart water ba sed aircraft finishes?I may end =0Aup covering my Firefly in the basement a nd the Stitts fumes might just cost me =0Amy marriage!-- Does anyone kn ow-anything good or bad about this company? =0Athanks-- Chris=0A=0A =0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash build ============ =0A ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:59:04 AM PST US From: "Pat Ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: stewart system & oratex in uk? . Hi John, I dont think that anyone has got round to painting their planes with emulsion paint in the UK so no comment on that. The Oratex is also fairly new. The guys who have used it are not going to admit they were wrong. Yet. But in fairness they have been enthusiastic about the application and weight saving, so as far as the fairly limited experience goes it has been a success. Cheers Pat ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:56:43 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: pitot tube From: Larry Cottrell I know that every one has paint on their fingers as a subject line, but in an effort to keep paint from becoming as tiresome a subject as Sea Foam, I would offer this. :-) John mentioned the other day that he had cut his pitot tube at a 45 degree angle in an effort to keep from getting an inaccurate reading when in landing configuration. Like most things that John has to offer, I thought that this might just be worth doing. So I did. Today was the first day for me to fly in quite a while. The weather has been just a little bit cranky and I have done other things instead. My ASI had been reading a bit high compared to my GPS. Not too much, but about 4-5 MPH. This time when I took off I noticed right away that it was reading a lot slower. My first reaction was to lower the nose to get some more airspeed, then I remembered that I had modified the tube. My indicated airspeed was now reading a few MPH under the reading from the GPS, but much closer to what I considered the true airspeed. I did a stall, and found that my stall occurred just where it always did. It is very possible that the angle that I cut was closer to 20 degrees than 45, so I am wondering with the right angle cut would it read closer to what my GPS is telling me? It was a beautiful morning and the air was crystal clear, and I took video's of the Owyhee for about 39 miles. If I get ambitious I may post a bit of it on the web. I also reached a milestone today. I finally filled a log book today. It only took me 15 years to fill it completely full. Pretty pathetic! 342 hours just piddling around, legally of course. Another couple of hundred as a fat UL. Larry -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:46:59 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: pitot tube I also reached a milestone today. I finally filled a log book today. It only took me 15 years to fill it completely full. Pretty pathetic! 342 hours just piddling around, legally of course. Another couple of hundred as a fat UL. Larry Larry C/Folks: We'll see if we can get some more hours in your log book come next June. Looking forward to flying back to the Rock House, Burns Junction, Oregon. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:35:02 PM PST US From: Arksey@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: pitot tube Interesting info Larry...thanks for posting...have mowed the runway and getting the firestar ready to fly...should be in the air next week....have never checked my airspeed with gps but will just for the heck of it....may try and fine tune like John has..... Jim Swan Kolb Firestar ll, 503 Rotax , 6147 Wilcox Rd., Eaton Rapids, Mi 48827 ph 517-663-8488 GPS GPS FOR MY RUNWAY N 42 deg 28.581 W084deg 44.825 In a message dated 4/29/2012 5:56:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lcottrell1020@gmail.com writes: I know that every one has paint on their fingers as a subject line, but in an effort to keep paint from becoming as tiresome a subject as Sea Foam, I would offer this. :-) John mentioned the other day that he had cut his pitot tube at a 45 degree angle in an effort to keep from getting an inaccurate reading when in landing configuration. Like most things that John has to offer, I thought that this might just be worth doing. So I did. Today was the first day for me to fly in quite a while. The weather has been just a little bit cranky and I have done other things instead. (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:35:39 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Owyhee air time From: Larry Cottrell http://owyheeflyer.blogspot.com/ This link will take you to my blog where I posted some of the pictures I took today as well as a short video. Larry -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.