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1. 07:25 AM - =?ISO-8859-1?Q?It=99s?= official Governor Signed the Aviation bill Amendment (Dennis Thate)
2. 07:49 AM - More Kolb glass (Richard Girard)
3. 08:15 AM - Re: More Kolb glass (John Hauck)
4. 08:18 AM - Monument Valley Fly in-2012 (miyer2u)
5. 09:01 AM - Re: Monument Valley Fly in-2012 (John Hauck)
6. 10:22 AM - Re: More Kolb glass (william sullivan)
7. 11:56 AM - Re: More Kolb glass (John Hauck)
8. 12:23 PM - Re: More Kolb glass (Richard Girard)
9. 05:55 PM - Ignition noise suppression on Jabiru 2200 (Frankd)
10. 06:30 PM - Ignition noise suppression on Jabiru 2200 (b young)
11. 06:36 PM - Re: Ignition noise suppression on Jabiru 2200 (John Hauck)
12. 06:52 PM - =?windows-1252?Q?Re=3A_Kolb=2DList=3A_Re=3A_The_bill_passed=94on_the_way?= =?windows-1252?Q?_to_the_Minnesota_Governor=21? (Dan Liles)
13. 07:27 PM - Re: Monument Valley Fly in-2012 (miyer2u)
14. 07:37 PM - "Hypethetically" (FIRESTARII)
15. 07:56 PM - Re: "Hypethetically" (henry.voris)
16. 09:03 PM - =?Windows-1252?Q?Re:_Kolb-L?= =?Windows-1252?Q?ist:_Re:_K?= =?Windows-1252?Q?olb-List:_?= =?Windows-1252?Q?Re:_The_bi?= =?Windows-1252?Q?ll_passed?= =?Windows-1252?Q?=94on_the_w?= =?Windows-1252?Q?ay_to_the_?= =?Windows-1252?Q?Minnesota_?= =?Windows-1252?Q?Governor!? (Sky Biker)
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Subject: | =?ISO-8859-1?Q?It=99s?= official Governor Signed the Aviation |
bill Amendment
Its official the Minnesota Governor just Signed the Aviation bill Amendmentthe
Minnesota Recreational Use Statute now includes non-commercial aviation! I received
this last night from Sen. John Carlsonthe Governor he waited a week to
sign the omnibus bill.
You can now invite the fellow pilots to land on your private strip with out any
litigation concerns
WONDERFUL NEWS---! :D
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
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After the favorable results I obtained by sealing the gap between the
horizontal stabilizers and the boom I wanted to make something more
permanent than the duct tape I used for testing.
I shaped a strip of styrofoam to fit nicely in the gap then used duct tape
to protect the HS and the tube (duct tape is a great mold release). I used
the poor man's vacuum bagging technique to prepare three pieces of BID
fiberglass, peeled off the top layer of plastic and used the bottom layer
of plastic to hold the wet glass as I molded it on to the plane. Once the
plastic was peeled off it was replaced by piece of polyester cloth as a
peel ply and paper towels as a bleeder ply to soak up any excess resin.
This morning I pulled off the peel ply and gradually worked the seal loose
from the duct tape.
After I make two more, I'll mount the top and bottom seals on the boom and
glass around the forward end to bond them into a single seal.
Rick Girard
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Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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After I make two more, I'll mount the top and bottom seals on the boom and
glass around the forward end to bond them into a single seal.
Rick Girard
Rick G/Folks:
I'm sure you are aware of this, but will make a friendly reminder just in
case. Unless the rudder hinge line is positioned exactly, it will have fore
and aft movement of one or both horizontal stabilizers.
What were the results of installing the tail boom/horizontal stabilizer gap
seals.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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Subject: | Monument Valley Fly in-2012 |
Kolber!s,
Are we having the monument valley fly in this year?
If so when? It will be great to get together!
Thanks,
Mahesh
Firestar-2
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Subject: | Monument Valley Fly in-2012 |
Are we having the monument valley fly in this year?
If so when? It will be great to get together!
Thanks,
Mahesh
Firestar-2
Mahesh/Folks:
Unfortunately, the old Kolb crew has discontinued the Monument Valley Flyin.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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- John- Please clarify the fore and aft movement.- I was under the impr
ession that the Mark III horizontal stabilizer was designed to move, for un
known design reasons.- Also, unless Rick has something not shown in the p
hotos, the tail won't fold.
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----------------- Bill Sullivan
--- On Sat, 5/5/12, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
After I make two more, I'll mount the top and bottom seals on the boom and
glass around the forward end to bond them into a single seal.
Rick Girard
Rick G/Folks:
I'm sure you are aware of this, but will make a friendly reminder just in
case.- Unless the rudder hinge line is positioned exactly, it will have f
ore
and aft movement of one or both horizontal stabilizers.
What were the results of installing the tail boom/horizontal stabilizer gap
seals.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
le, List Admin.
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John- Please clarify the fore and aft movement. I was under the
impression that the Mark III horizontal stabilizer was designed to move, for
unknown design reasons.
Bill Sullivan
"Unless the rudder hinge line is positioned exactly, it will have fore
and aft movement of one or both horizontal stabilizers."
Bill S/Folks:
Getting old isn't an excuse for mistakes. The above should have read:
"Unless the ELEVATOR HINGE LINE is positioned exactly centered, it will have
fore and aft movement of one or both horizontal stabilizers."
I have one pretty close that does not move, and the other a little out that
moves fore and aft 1/4".
Sorry for the confusion.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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Subject: | Re: More Kolb glass |
John, The elevator hinge line is positioned in line with the hinge bolt in
the boom tube ring fitting and shimmed to stay that way so there is no
movement of the stabilizer when the elevator is moved.
William, There are two options for folding. Remove the seal, fold as usual,
or slit the top seal so that the two pieces align when the HS is folded
out and seal with vinyl tape.
Rick
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 1:54 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
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>
> John- Please clarify the fore and aft movement. I was under the
> impression that the Mark III horizontal stabilizer was designed to move,
> for
> unknown design reasons.
>
> Bill Sullivan
>
> "Unless the rudder hinge line is positioned exactly, it will have fore
> and aft movement of one or both horizontal stabilizers."
>
>
> Bill S/Folks:
>
> Getting old isn't an excuse for mistakes. The above should have read:
>
> "Unless the ELEVATOR HINGE LINE is positioned exactly centered, it will
> have
> fore and aft movement of one or both horizontal stabilizers."
>
> I have one pretty close that does not move, and the other a little out that
> moves fore and aft 1/4".
>
> Sorry for the confusion.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
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Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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Subject: | Ignition noise suppression on Jabiru 2200 |
Hello Kolbers,
The question of noise has been raised in the past and I'm looking for anyone with
a Jabiru 2200 who has been successful in reducing radio noise created by the
ignition system on the Jab.
My Mk3 Xtra is VERY noisy and the radio picks up a ton of static noise I believe
is generated by the ignition of the engine. The engine itself is very loud
decibel wise but I dealing with that with a noise canceling headset.
If I could eliminate the radio interference I would be a much happier pilot, then
I could hear other flyers in the pattern.
My ideas include putting a metal shield in the front part of the motor over the
distributors and flywheel which generates the spark.. I'm also searching for
shielded spark plug cables..
Any ideas are welcome.
Frankd
Mk3 Xtra, 1014S
23 hrs into initial 40,
no bent gear yet!
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Subject: | Ignition noise suppression on Jabiru 2200 |
The question of noise has been raised in the past and I'm looking for anyone with
a Jabiru 2200 who has been successful in reducing radio noise created by the
ignition system on the Jab.
Frankd
Mk3 Xtra, 1014S
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I cant help with the Jab... but on the 912. I put a large capacitor across
the battery, double what they call for, if you are using power from the plane
for the radio, a teroidal coil between the aircraft battery and the radio,
both positive and negative wires. and an additional capacitor at the radio will
help. also I made my wires from the cdi boxes to the kill switches out of
coax, this shields the cdi noise from getting out. keep the antenna as far
away as practical, mine is in the nose cone.
resistor plugs or resistor plug caps may help. I have not had to do that.
if you have questions ask away, maybe a Jab owner has other tips.
boyd young
mkiii
utah
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Subject: | Ignition noise suppression on Jabiru 2200 |
resistor plugs or resistor plug caps may help. I have not had to do that.
boyd young
Boyd Y/Folks:
912UL and 912ULS come equipped with resistor spark plug caps and plugs.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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Subject: | =?windows-1252?Q?Re=3A_Kolb=2DList=3A_Re=3A_The_bill_passed=94on_the_way?= |
=?windows-1252?Q?_to_the_Minnesota_Governor=21?
I fly a Kolb mk 3 xtra and I think Dennis' postings are of interest to this
Kolb owner. Dennis flys a mk 3 classic and should have the right to post
anything related to Kolb. And as far as I am concerned if he post fly in
activities that is of interest, what's the harm? what's better.... Reading
posts. Or having an empty forum?
On May 4, 2012 2:24 PM, "Thom Riddle" <riddletr@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I've tried very hard to restrain myself and have succeeded for the most
> part, but must respond to this one.
>
> Dennis, you seem to be under the impression that it is OK to post whatever
> is of interest to you on the KOLB list, even though it is contrary to the
> guidelines. SOMETIMES your posts are indirectly related and perhaps of
> interest to a few Kolbers by being is some way related to aviation.
> However, the one I am responding to now, as far as I can tell, is in no way
> related to KOLB AIRCRAFT.
>
> I know the list activity has been slow in recent weeks but that does not
> change the guidelines nor should it be viewed as reason or justification
> to post whatever comes to mind. As is the case for all subscribers to the
> Matronics Kolb List, anything (other than personal attacks) you have to say
> or ask about KOLBS is welcome here. I respectfully request that you stop
> posting anything that does not meet the Matronics Kolb List guidelines, to
> this list.
>
> If you feel a need to post this sort of thing somewhere, perhaps you
> should consider FACEBOOK or Google+ (obviously too long for Twitter) so the
> only people who see it are those who think whatever you have to say on ANY
> subject is worth reading.
>
> do not archive
>
> --------
> Thom Riddle
> Buffalo, NY (9G0)
> Kolb Slingshot SS-021
> Jabiru 2200A #1574
> Tennessee Prop 64x32
>
> Truth is what stands the test of experience.
> - Albert Einstein
>
>
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>
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Subject: | Re: Monument Valley Fly in-2012 |
Thanks John.
That is unfortunate and we should continue this effort!
I am planning to go to Monument Valley this month end and I remember that we had
the flyin around this time!
Hope we all can revive it back in the coming years! It's a great way for all of
us to meet in person...and of course fly with our Kolb:-))
Thanks,
Mahesh
FS-2
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Subject: | "Hypethetically" |
If a guy currently had a registered and N-Numbered FSII and "Happened" to
Find a really good deal on an unregistered FSII, The same exact make and model,
would it be possible to use the existing paper work and N-Number on the other
airplane to make it legal??? Of course this is pure theroy. Just something
to mull over while hanger flying. Let's also assume the unregistered FSII is
WAY nicer and newer than the registered one. Then re-power the old one with
say a 447 and a 5 gallon tank, 1 seat and sell as part 103 UL???? This is of course
all speculation of course but the issue "May" have come across a friends
desk and if its possible I know a guy who knows a guy who may be interested in
moving forward with the deal? :D. Looking for yeah or neah here not a toung
lashing, please also my friend of a friend is asking BEFOR doing and not the
other way around. I think my friend is a good guy who flys very safe and respects
the law, when the law makes logical sense and does not make an otherwise
perfectly airworthy airplane un-airworthy because of a piece of paper and a few
extra bucks in uncle SAMs pockets! Let me know what you think so I cal steer
my friend in the correct direction.
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Low and Slow FireStar II
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Subject: | Re: "Hypethetically" |
Sure you could do it... and may get way with it... but it wouldn't be legal...
Alzo... a FSII with a 447 and a 5 gallon tank, 1 seat still isn't a legal Part
103...
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Henry
Firefly Five-Charlie-Bravo
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Subject: | Re: =?Windows-1252?Q?RE:_Kolb-L?= =?Windows-1252?Q?ist:_Re:_K?= |
=?Windows-1252?Q?olb-List:_?= =?Windows-1252?Q?Re:_The_bi?= =?Windows-1252?Q?ll_passed?=
=?Windows-1252?Q?=94on_the_w?= =?Windows-1252?Q?ay_to_the_?= =?Windows-1252?Q?Minnesota_?=
=?Windows-1252?Q?Governor!?
I have to agree with Thom that he should be able to be posted for all to re
ad. There are many miss conceptions as to what and what can not be done wit
h ones private air strip.
When I put mine in and had people complain about it and try to stop me=2C h
ad it not been post such as his and others with the same problems. I would
not have found all the information needed to back up my legal right to have
one on my own property. Once I compiled my information and copies of cou
rt cases addressing the same issues=2C I had the blessing of code enforceme
nt and the county attorney or there facing a losing court battle.
Ross Richardson
Clewicton=2C Fl.
Mark 111 C
Rotax 912 UL
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List: Re: The bill passed=94on the way t
o the Minnesota Governor!
From: dansgoat@gmail.com
I fly a Kolb mk 3 xtra and I think Dennis' postings are of interest to this
Kolb owner. Dennis flys a mk 3 classic and should have the right to post a
nything related to Kolb. And as far as I am concerned if he post fly in act
ivities that is of interest=2C what's the harm? what's better.... Reading p
osts. Or having an empty forum?
On May 4=2C 2012 2:24 PM=2C "Thom Riddle" <riddletr@gmail.com> wrote:
I've tried very hard to restrain myself and have succeeded for the most par
t=2C but must respond to this one.
Dennis=2C you seem to be under the impression that it is OK to post whateve
r is of interest to you on the KOLB list=2C even though it is contrary to t
he guidelines. SOMETIMES your posts are indirectly related and perhaps of i
nterest to a few Kolbers by being is some way related to aviation. However
=2C the one I am responding to now=2C as far as I can tell=2C is in no way
related to KOLB AIRCRAFT.
I know the list activity has been slow in recent weeks but that does not ch
ange the guidelines nor should it be viewed as reason or justification to
post whatever comes to mind. As is the case for all subscribers to the Matr
onics Kolb List=2C anything (other than personal attacks) you have to say o
r ask about KOLBS is welcome here. I respectfully request that you stop pos
ting anything that does not meet the Matronics Kolb List guidelines=2C to t
his list.
If you feel a need to post this sort of thing somewhere=2C perhaps you shou
ld consider FACEBOOK or Google+ (obviously too long for Twitter) so the onl
y people who see it are those who think whatever you have to say on ANY sub
ject is worth reading.
do not archive
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo=2C NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Truth is what stands the test of experience.
- Albert Einstein
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