---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 05/11/12: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:51 AM - Re: Re: Flying Bryce canyon and Monument Valley - Knowhow? (kinne russ) 2. 09:03 AM - Re: Flying Bryce canyon and Monument Valley - Knowhow? (Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/ENS) 3. 09:16 AM - Re: Re: Flying Bryce canyon and Monument Valley - Knowhow? (Larry Cottrell) 4. 12:11 PM - JBM (william sullivan) 5. 02:57 PM - Kolb Kolbra for sale (gittlj@q.com) 6. 07:21 PM - Re: back in the air in Michigan (Arksey@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:51:13 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Flying Bryce canyon and Monument Valley - Knowhow? From: kinne russ On May 10, 2012, at 10:25 PM, miyer2u wrote: > > Hello Arty, > Thanks so much for your input. I was always wondering as to how a 503 would perform in such light conditions. I will surely look out for the right weather conditions. > > Hope you are having some good flights in your Titan!. > > Mahesh > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=372795#372795 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:03:26 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Flying Bryce canyon and Monument Valley - Knowhow? From: "Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/ENS" "miyer2u" wrote: << I was always wondering as to how a 503 would perform in such light conditions. I will surely look out for the right weather conditions. Mahesh >> Hello, Mahesh - Regarding your question about how a Firestar might perform at high density altitudes: Here is one observation for you. This morning I flew my Mark-3 in formation with a Kolb Firefly (447 powered), and I was amazed at how Homer's tiniest Kolb was having no problem climbing out, and keeping up with me. Our field elevation is 6500 feet, and at one point we climbed all the way to 9000 feet to get over a mountain range here in central New Mexico. Admittedly, I was throttled back a bit (4200 rpm), but he was right on my wingtip the whole flight. Our indicated airspeeds matched exactly (53 mph), and his 447 was running at 5400. After the flight, he said his Firefly still flew crisp and spritely, not sluggish at all. Although he admitted his takeoff roll was a bit longer than usual compared to lower elevations, but not a whole lot. In a post earlier this week, Arty Trost shared with us that taking off from the Monument Valley airstip took most of the runway. What Arty left out was, she was talking about the PAVED part of the runway! Back before 2008, the first several hundred feet of that airstrip was paved, and the other few thousand feet was dirt. It was always a fun challenge to see if we could get into the air before our tires hit the dirt part! (Am I right, Arty?) For what it's worth ... Dennis Kirby Mark-3, 912ul, "Magic Bike" ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:16:58 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Flying Bryce canyon and Monument Valley - Knowhow? From: Larry Cottrell To expand on these answers, I flew my Firestar II there with a 503 in 2007 the last of May. Temps were about 80 degrees. I am used to flying at 4000 feet altitude, and I noticed no real problem with the plane. It will of course reduce your performance a bit depending on the density altitude at the time, but both the plane and the engine will handle it. Have Fun Larry On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/ENS < Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> wrote: > "miyer2u" wrote: << I was always wondering as to how a 503 would perform > in such light conditions. I will surely look out for the right weather > conditions. Mahesh >>**** > > ** ** > > Hello, Mahesh '**** > > ** ** > > Regarding your question about how a Firestar might perform at high densit y > altitudes: Here is one observation for you.**** > > ** ** > > This morning I flew my Mark-3 in formation with a Kolb Firefly (447 > powered), and I was amazed at how Homer=92s tiniest Kolb was having no > problem climbing out, and keeping up with me. Our field elevation is 650 0 > feet, and at one point we climbed all the way to 9000 feet to get over a > mountain range here in central New Mexico. Admittedly, I was throttled > back a bit (4200 rpm), but he was right on my wingtip the whole flight. > Our indicated airspeeds matched exactly (53 mph), and his 447 was running > at 5400.**** > > ** ** > > After the flight, he said his Firefly still flew crisp and spritely, not > sluggish at all. Although he admitted his takeoff roll was a bit longer > than usual compared to lower elevations, but not a whole lot.**** > > ** ** > > In a post earlier this week, Arty Trost shared with us that taking off > from the Monument Valley airstip took most of the runway. What Arty left > out was, she was talking about the PAVED part of the runway! Back before > 2008, the first several hundred feet of that airstrip was paved, and the > other few thousand feet was dirt. It was always a fun challenge to see i f > we could get into the air before our tires hit the dirt part! (Am I righ t, > Arty?)**** > > ** ** > > For what it=92s worth =85**** > > ** ** > > Dennis Kirby**** > > Mark-3, 912ul, =93Magic Bike=94**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:11:58 PM PST US From: william sullivan Subject: Kolb-List: JBM - I ordered some rubber parts and springs from JBM on Tuesday the 8th, an d just got them in today's mail.- Excellent service! do not archive ------------------------- ------------------- Bill Sullivan ------------------------- ------------------- Windsor Locks, Ct .. ------------------------- ------------------- FS 447 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:57:04 PM PST US From: gittlj@q.com Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb Kolbra for sale ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:21:40 PM PST US From: Arksey@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: RE: back in the air in Michigan Hi group, got the firestar ll serviced and back in the air today....wonderful thing...made a very good landing to my surprise....now to put on some hours....had a fellow I know that lives East of me about 20 miles stop in with his firefly....he sure has fun with it and had just installed a full enclosure which looked good...we also got Bob's MK lll classic out of the pole barn and into the hangar, plan on starting it up tomorrow and weather permitting will get it in the air....so Knobs are flying in Michigan...will post some pictures on the Kolb facebook page....blue skys and safe flying from Michigan....Jim Swan do not archive.. 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