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1. 04:45 AM - Re: "Hypothetically" (Lockamy, Jack CIV Atlantic Targets Marine Ops, AD.5.3.3 / Key West Det)
2. 05:43 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 05/17/12 (b young)
3. 07:30 AM - Re: Re: CG on a MK II twinstar (Eugene Zimmerman)
4. 01:53 PM - Thanks. (Pat Ladd)
5. 02:28 PM - Re: Re: CG on a MK II twinstar (Gary Aman)
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Subject: | "Hypothetically" |
From: | "Lockamy, Jack CIV Atlantic Targets Marine Ops, AD.5.3.3 / Key West Det" |
<jack.lockamy@navy.mil>
You are correct George.
I guess my point is/was that you essentially do anything you want to do, until
you get caught.
I have LOTS of friends on the west coast in Central CA who own their own production
model aircraft (Cessnas, Pipers, Twin Comanche, etc.) who don't even have
a PVT Pilots, no BFR, or a third class medical! These are guys who taught themselves
to fly or had taken just enough lessons to feel confident enough to fly
solo. These same guys stay away from Class D (tower controlled fields) airspace
and tend to only fly from non-controlled or private fields all their lives.
I have been flying since 1987 and NOT ONCE have I ever been asked for my PPL, aircraft
registration, etc. by an official. I had a catastrophic prop failure
and ultimately crashed my homebuilt at a tower controlled airport on 8 SEP 2002.
Even during the post accident investigation, neither the FAA or NTSB asked
to see of any of my 'documents' to verify my pilot status or the aircraft status.
Final thoughts on the matter.... millions of people drive vehicles every day with
a valid driver's license. They will also most likely get away with this 'crime'
so long as they aren't involved in an accident or pulled over for a driving
violation. Same thing goes for us pilots. I could probably fly the rest of
my life without having another BFR, medical exam, etc. and no one would be the
wiser. I 'could do it.... but I won't.'
V/R,
Jack L. Lockamy
NAS Key West, FL
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From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Myers
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 18:59
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: "Hypothetically"
Normally the serial number is on a tag, pop riveted to the frame, or
boom......................................
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lockamy, Jack CIV
Atlantic Targets Marine Ops, AD.5.3.3 / Key West Det
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 1:08 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: "Hypothetically"
Is it legal? No. (Serial numbers have to match)
Can you do it? Yes!
And you could fly it for the next 20-30 years and no one would ever know the
difference UNLESS you get in accident and the investigator learns your
secret. Lots of bad things happen in that scenario.
Jack in Key West
Kolb M3C (N33040)
Rotax 582 and PJ floats
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of FIRESTARII
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 22:38
Subject: Kolb-List: "Hypethetically"
If a guy currently had a registered and N-Numbered FSII and "Happened" to
Find a really good deal on an unregistered FSII, The same exact make and
model, would it be possible to use the existing paper work and N-Number on
the other airplane to make it legal??? Of course this is pure theroy.
Just something to mull over while hanger flying. Let's also assume the
unregistered FSII is WAY nicer and newer than the registered one. Then
re-power the old one with say a 447 and a 5 gallon tank, 1 seat and sell as
part 103 UL???? This is of course all speculation of course but the issue
"May" have come across a friends desk and if its possible I know a guy who
knows a guy who may be interested in moving forward with the deal? :D.
Looking for yeah or neah here not a toung lashing, please also my friend of
a friend is asking BEFOR doing and not the other way around. I think my
friend is a good guy who flys very safe and respects the law, when the law
makes logical sense and does not make an otherwise perfectly airworthy
airplane un-airworthy because o!
f a piece of paper and a few extra bucks in uncle SAMs pockets! Let me
know what you think so I cal steer my friend in the correct direction.
--------
Low and Slow FireStar II
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=372481#372481
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Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 05/17/12 |
If a guy currently had a registered and N-Numbered FSII and "Happened" to
Find a really good deal on an unregistered FSII, The same exact make and
model, would it be possible to use the existing paper work and N-Number on
the other airplane to make it legal???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I do not know what is legal or not legal here, only telling a story.
it seems while hanger flying at the airport. I have heard of a&p's who have bought
a crashed super cub, Waco, the name is of little importance here. but they
have taken as little as 1 foot of strait tube found in the rudder, and rebuilt
the aircraft. all the parts used were purchased new except for the 1
foot of tubing. and when completed they reattached the data plate from the crashed
plane. when they got finished they had a 1947 vintage certified aircraft
that had been restored. I think it could have been registered as a new home
built experimental. but there was an advantage to calling it a rebuild.
I am not sure if the rebuilt vintage aircraft would be more valuable, quicker
resale,
worth what you paid.
boyd y
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Subject: | Re: CG on a MK II twinstar |
G,
How much experience do you have with a Mark II?
I was not telling anyone how to overcome a CG "problem", since at this
point a CG "problem" has not been established. Since there was no
mention of any modifications made to the Kolb designed Mark II in
question, my assumption is that it is highly unlikely that it has an
actual CG "problem".
As a matter of list member information, an in-flight adjustable elevator
trim tab is part of the Mark II's standard equipment.
Gene,
On May 17, 2012, at 8:50 AM, Gary Aman wrote:
> Gene,
> I really believe adjusting the controls to overcome a CG problem does
a terrible disservice to a normally good handling airplane.The weight
and balance is the way to go.Someone will give you the info you need
Lee,How about it Crystal,do you still have that info?
> G.Aman MK3C
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Hi All,
I would just like to say thank you to all those listers who sent
messages, on and off list, after my `retirement`post.
Many offering cures for bad backs and suggestions on how to keep flying.
Several said that they would miss my contributions from my `vast
experience`. I think that was overstating the case. Varied maybe but if
you want `vast ` listen to John H.
John also made the point that I was the lister who had travelled
furthest to attend Monument Valley. It is agreat experience how ever
you get there.Try it.
We drove from San Diego. expressly avoiding Interstates. motorways etc
to Palm Springs. Vegas, Bryce..I remember that at one point the GPS
showed `Drive 102 miles.Turn Right` We were flown by someone whose name
I have forgotten around the Camping Grounds area. Much appreciated and
remembered. On the ground we were taken by Big Lar in his massive camper
up tracks which no self respecting goat would have considered for a
moment. Great Stuff.
We went on through Medicine Hat and Durango and met up again with Lar at
Santa Fe where again he became a guide around the area.Lar is
interested in everything.He takes photos to a professional standard.
Read his blog.
Thanks to everyone for their kind messages
Cheers
Pat
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Subject: | Re: CG on a MK II twinstar |
Gene,
None with a Mk2,but quite a bit with the FS and Mk3.I did the same thing yo
u did,made an assumption.He was looking for cg info and I assumed he wanted
to do a weight /balance check, which I would recommend.I would not make tr
im changes until the CG has been established.It's possible to make an out o
f balance plane fly level with trim changes but it really screws up the han
dling,especially in rough air.No offense meant Gene.
Gary Aman Mk3C 690hrs Jabiru2200A
-----Original Message-----
From: Eugene Zimmerman <etzimm@gmail.com>
Sent: Fri, May 18, 2012 10:30 am
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: CG on a MK II twinstar
G,
How much experience do you have with a Mark II?
I was not telling anyone how to overcome a CG "problem", since at this poin
t a CG "problem" has not been established. Since there was no mention of an
y modifications made to the Kolb designed Mark II in question, my assumptio
n is that it is highly unlikely that it has an actual CG "problem".
As a matter of list member information, an in-flight adjustable elevator tr
im tab is part of the Mark II's standard equipment.
Gene,
On May 17, 2012, at 8:50 AM, Gary Aman wrote:
Gene,
I really believe adjusting the controls to overcome a CG problem does a ter
rible disservice to a normally good handling airplane.The weight and balanc
e is the way to go.Someone will give you the info you need Lee,How about it
Crystal,do you still have that info?
G.Aman MK3C
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