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Fri 05/18/12


Total Messages Posted: 5



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     1. 04:45 AM - Re: "Hypothetically" (Lockamy, Jack CIV Atlantic Targets Marine Ops, AD.5.3.3 / Key West Det)
     2. 05:43 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 05/17/12 (b young)
     3. 07:30 AM - Re: Re: CG on a MK II twinstar (Eugene Zimmerman)
     4. 01:53 PM - Thanks. (Pat Ladd)
     5. 02:28 PM - Re: Re: CG on a MK II twinstar (Gary Aman)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:45:10 AM PST US
    Subject: "Hypothetically"
    From: "Lockamy, Jack CIV Atlantic Targets Marine Ops, AD.5.3.3 / Key West Det"
    <jack.lockamy@navy.mil> You are correct George. I guess my point is/was that you essentially do anything you want to do, until you get caught. I have LOTS of friends on the west coast in Central CA who own their own production model aircraft (Cessnas, Pipers, Twin Comanche, etc.) who don't even have a PVT Pilots, no BFR, or a third class medical! These are guys who taught themselves to fly or had taken just enough lessons to feel confident enough to fly solo. These same guys stay away from Class D (tower controlled fields) airspace and tend to only fly from non-controlled or private fields all their lives. I have been flying since 1987 and NOT ONCE have I ever been asked for my PPL, aircraft registration, etc. by an official. I had a catastrophic prop failure and ultimately crashed my homebuilt at a tower controlled airport on 8 SEP 2002. Even during the post accident investigation, neither the FAA or NTSB asked to see of any of my 'documents' to verify my pilot status or the aircraft status. Final thoughts on the matter.... millions of people drive vehicles every day with a valid driver's license. They will also most likely get away with this 'crime' so long as they aren't involved in an accident or pulled over for a driving violation. Same thing goes for us pilots. I could probably fly the rest of my life without having another BFR, medical exam, etc. and no one would be the wiser. I 'could do it.... but I won't.' V/R, Jack L. Lockamy NAS Key West, FL -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Myers Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 18:59 Subject: RE: Kolb-List: "Hypothetically" Normally the serial number is on a tag, pop riveted to the frame, or boom...................................... -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lockamy, Jack CIV Atlantic Targets Marine Ops, AD.5.3.3 / Key West Det Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 1:08 PM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: "Hypothetically" Is it legal? No. (Serial numbers have to match) Can you do it? Yes! And you could fly it for the next 20-30 years and no one would ever know the difference UNLESS you get in accident and the investigator learns your secret. Lots of bad things happen in that scenario. Jack in Key West Kolb M3C (N33040) Rotax 582 and PJ floats -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of FIRESTARII Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 22:38 Subject: Kolb-List: "Hypethetically" If a guy currently had a registered and N-Numbered FSII and "Happened" to Find a really good deal on an unregistered FSII, The same exact make and model, would it be possible to use the existing paper work and N-Number on the other airplane to make it legal??? Of course this is pure theroy. Just something to mull over while hanger flying. Let's also assume the unregistered FSII is WAY nicer and newer than the registered one. Then re-power the old one with say a 447 and a 5 gallon tank, 1 seat and sell as part 103 UL???? This is of course all speculation of course but the issue "May" have come across a friends desk and if its possible I know a guy who knows a guy who may be interested in moving forward with the deal? :D. Looking for yeah or neah here not a toung lashing, please also my friend of a friend is asking BEFOR doing and not the other way around. I think my friend is a good guy who flys very safe and respects the law, when the law makes logical sense and does not make an otherwise perfectly airworthy airplane un-airworthy because o! f a piece of paper and a few extra bucks in uncle SAMs pockets! Let me know what you think so I cal steer my friend in the correct direction. -------- Low and Slow FireStar II Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=372481#372481


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    Time: 05:43:53 AM PST US
    From: "b young" <byoungplumbing@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 05/17/12
    If a guy currently had a registered and N-Numbered FSII and "Happened" to Find a really good deal on an unregistered FSII, The same exact make and model, would it be possible to use the existing paper work and N-Number on the other airplane to make it legal??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not know what is legal or not legal here, only telling a story. it seems while hanger flying at the airport. I have heard of a&p's who have bought a crashed super cub, Waco, the name is of little importance here. but they have taken as little as 1 foot of strait tube found in the rudder, and rebuilt the aircraft. all the parts used were purchased new except for the 1 foot of tubing. and when completed they reattached the data plate from the crashed plane. when they got finished they had a 1947 vintage certified aircraft that had been restored. I think it could have been registered as a new home built experimental. but there was an advantage to calling it a rebuild. I am not sure if the rebuilt vintage aircraft would be more valuable, quicker resale, worth what you paid. boyd y


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    Time: 07:30:20 AM PST US
    From: Eugene Zimmerman <etzimm@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: CG on a MK II twinstar
    G, How much experience do you have with a Mark II? I was not telling anyone how to overcome a CG "problem", since at this point a CG "problem" has not been established. Since there was no mention of any modifications made to the Kolb designed Mark II in question, my assumption is that it is highly unlikely that it has an actual CG "problem". As a matter of list member information, an in-flight adjustable elevator trim tab is part of the Mark II's standard equipment. Gene, On May 17, 2012, at 8:50 AM, Gary Aman wrote: > Gene, > I really believe adjusting the controls to overcome a CG problem does a terrible disservice to a normally good handling airplane.The weight and balance is the way to go.Someone will give you the info you need Lee,How about it Crystal,do you still have that info? > G.Aman MK3C


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    Time: 01:53:31 PM PST US
    From: "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Thanks.
    Hi All, I would just like to say thank you to all those listers who sent messages, on and off list, after my `retirement`post. Many offering cures for bad backs and suggestions on how to keep flying. Several said that they would miss my contributions from my `vast experience`. I think that was overstating the case. Varied maybe but if you want `vast ` listen to John H. John also made the point that I was the lister who had travelled furthest to attend Monument Valley. It is agreat experience how ever you get there.Try it. We drove from San Diego. expressly avoiding Interstates. motorways etc to Palm Springs. Vegas, Bryce..I remember that at one point the GPS showed `Drive 102 miles.Turn Right` We were flown by someone whose name I have forgotten around the Camping Grounds area. Much appreciated and remembered. On the ground we were taken by Big Lar in his massive camper up tracks which no self respecting goat would have considered for a moment. Great Stuff. We went on through Medicine Hat and Durango and met up again with Lar at Santa Fe where again he became a guide around the area.Lar is interested in everything.He takes photos to a professional standard. Read his blog. Thanks to everyone for their kind messages Cheers Pat


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    Time: 02:28:21 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: CG on a MK II twinstar
    From: Gary Aman <zeprep251@aol.com>
    Gene, None with a Mk2,but quite a bit with the FS and Mk3.I did the same thing yo u did,made an assumption.He was looking for cg info and I assumed he wanted to do a weight /balance check, which I would recommend.I would not make tr im changes until the CG has been established.It's possible to make an out o f balance plane fly level with trim changes but it really screws up the han dling,especially in rough air.No offense meant Gene. Gary Aman Mk3C 690hrs Jabiru2200A -----Original Message----- From: Eugene Zimmerman <etzimm@gmail.com> Sent: Fri, May 18, 2012 10:30 am Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: CG on a MK II twinstar G, How much experience do you have with a Mark II? I was not telling anyone how to overcome a CG "problem", since at this poin t a CG "problem" has not been established. Since there was no mention of an y modifications made to the Kolb designed Mark II in question, my assumptio n is that it is highly unlikely that it has an actual CG "problem". As a matter of list member information, an in-flight adjustable elevator tr im tab is part of the Mark II's standard equipment. Gene, On May 17, 2012, at 8:50 AM, Gary Aman wrote: Gene, I really believe adjusting the controls to overcome a CG problem does a ter rible disservice to a normally good handling airplane.The weight and balanc e is the way to go.Someone will give you the info you need Lee,How about it Crystal,do you still have that info? G.Aman MK3C




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