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1. 04:47 AM - Re: Re: twinstar MK II thanks and another endless question (Pat Ladd)
2. 05:01 AM - Re: Re: home from the rock house ()
3. 06:46 AM - Re: prop (Richard Girard)
4. 06:46 AM - Re: prop (Richard Girard)
5. 06:56 AM - apologies (Pat Ladd)
6. 11:53 AM - fuel pressure high (cdupuis)
7. 04:24 PM - Re: Re: twinstar MK II thanks and another endless question (kinne russ)
8. 05:40 PM - q (kinne russ)
9. 06:32 PM - Powerfin (Larry Cottrell)
10. 07:33 PM - Re: Powerfin (frank goodnight)
11. 08:01 PM - Re: Powerfin (Larry Cottrell)
12. 08:16 PM - Re: Powerfin (Richard Girard)
13. 08:27 PM - Re: Powerfin (Larry Cottrell)
14. 09:25 PM - Re: fuel pressure high (Richard Girard)
15. 10:28 PM - Hi KOLBER'S (FlyColt45@aol.com)
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Subject: | Re: twinstar MK II thanks and another endless question |
May have a Beneteau 523 to bring up from the VI's in a couple weex. Hope
so. Prolly cooler there than here!>>
Sounds nice. Reference `cooler`. just got back from Portugal. 3 days in
Lisbon, a very nice city and then a week up the Duoro from
Oporto.Temperatures around 104 for 3 days.
Not a wide river. In some places not much wider than the boat. Several
massive dams. A couple were around 200feet high.
Steep sided valley covered in vines. The port wine growing is strictly
controlled and only extend s a little way up the valley. After that it
is just Portuguese wine which is OK but I didn`t buy any.
In fact I find that I buy mainly Australian or New Zealand or Chilean or
Spanish. Nice wine at a reasonable price.
No one seems interested in buying my Kolb. Bugger!
Have fun
Pat
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Subject: | Re: home from the rock house |
---- chris davis <capedavis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> John , Fair winds and a safe flight, my friend . Ill be watching for your posts.
Chris
Thanks, Chris/Kolbers.
Looks like I have my work cut out for me today. Winds are forecast for "breezy
conditions out of the south from here in Laramie, WY, to Neosho, MO. I would
like to make Neosho, but the winds will be the determining factor if I do or
not. I have a good place to stay in the FBO at Goodland, KS, if the wind proves
to strong to be comfortable and/or economical.
john h
mkIII
Laramie, WY
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Frank, Does it have the plate and plastic blade blocks or the CNC machined
one?
Rick Girard
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 3:28 PM, frank goodnight <frank.goodnight@att.net>wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I have a prop that I need to sell.It's a warp drive 64in 3 blade cf . Has
> nickel leading
> edges and, taper tips , bought in 2004 or 5 , 700 hrs no damage nicks, or
> abrasions
> came off a 912 uls pusher, comes with a 2 or 3in prop ext.(I'm at the
> house-- too hot
> at the hanger) can some one that uses this prop on a kolb (Kolb related E-
> Mail) give
> me an idea as to what it might be worth.
> Thanks
> Frank
>
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Prop hub, that is.
Rick
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
> Frank, Does it have the plate and plastic blade blocks or the CNC machined
> one?
>
> Rick Girard
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 3:28 PM, frank goodnight <frank.goodnight@att.net>wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I have a prop that I need to sell.It's a warp drive 64in 3 blade cf . Has
>> nickel leading
>> edges and, taper tips , bought in 2004 or 5 , 700 hrs no damage nicks, or
>> abrasions
>> came off a 912 uls pusher, comes with a 2 or 3in prop ext.(I'm at the
>> house-- too hot
>> at the hanger) can some one that uses this prop on a kolb (Kolb related
>> E- Mail) give
>> me an idea as to what it might be worth.
>> Thanks
>> Frank
>>
>
>
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> Zulu Delta
> Mk IIIC
> Thanks, Homer GBYM
>
> It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
> - Groucho Marx
>
>
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Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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Hi,
sorry that my post in reply to a message from Russ Kine appeared on the
list.
I just hit reply and forgot that this list works the opposite way to all
others.
Sorry
Pat
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Subject: | fuel pressure high |
Hi all,
My fuel pressure is 11 psi at full speed on my 447. I teed the two lines off the
pump together then to the single carb. What's normally done?
Thanks!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377164#377164
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Subject: | Re: twinstar MK II thanks and another endless question |
Thanx email. Dint envy you the heat but it sounds like an interesting
trip. Since I dont drink wine at all, lots places aren't high on my
must-see list.
Fly the Kolb to CT or ME and I'll buy it!
Fair winds,
Russ
On Jul 3, 2012, at 7:46 AM, Pat Ladd wrote:
> May have a Beneteau 523 to bring up from the VI's in a couple weex.
Hope so. Prolly cooler there than here!>>
>
> Sounds nice. Reference `cooler`. just got back from Portugal. 3 days
in Lisbon, a very nice city and then a week up the Duoro from
Oporto.Temperatures around 104 for 3 days.
> Not a wide river. In some places not much wider than the boat. Several
massive dams. A couple were around 200feet high.
> Steep sided valley covered in vines. The port wine growing is strictly
controlled and only extend s a little way up the valley. After that it
is just Portuguese wine which is OK but I didn`t buy any.
> In fact I find that I buy mainly Australian or New Zealand or Chilean
or Spanish. Nice wine at a reasonable price.
>
> No one seems interested in buying my Kolb. Bugger!
>
> Have fun
>
> Pat
>
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List, I apologize. That was addressed to Pat Ladd.
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I would like to hear from those of you who have three blade Powerfin props.
I am interested in proformance compared to two blades. Climb, cruise and
how mush smoother. On or off list, your choice.
Larry
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Larry,
I use a 3 blade powerfin on my HKS powered firestar 2 if you remember my plane
is really dragie ( no cover on the cage or under the tail ) large tires and a
BRS canister under the belly. plus I carry 15 gal fuel and weigh about 250 ,
cruise about
55mph @ 5500 rpm, climb somewhere around 800 fpm --depend on temp . I chose a 3
blade because it gives me about 6in of
clearance between prop tip and the boom. The 2blade only gave about an inch.
Spent a couple of months in New Mexico
And managed to get to 11,500 ft. to clear some of the mountians. Took almost 45
min. to get there and it was toped out.
There was a guy in Hawai about the time I built mine that got his Hks firestar
to 18,000 with a 2 blade powerfin,
but he was a glider pilot and may have been riding a wave, claimed the 2 blade
was the way to go. Got a couple hundred
hrs. on my 3 blade, no problems , and would choose it again if I were starting
over.
Did Jimmy Young contact you about the air scoops--they really work-- I can't
get my cht over 315 no matter long I climb @ 40mph and 5,800 rpm & 100 degrees
OAT.
fly safe
Frank
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From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
Sent: Tue, July 3, 2012 8:32:35 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Powerfin
I would like to hear from those of you who have three blade Powerfin props. I am
interested in proformance compared to two blades. Climb, cruise and how mush
smoother. On or off list, your choice.
Larry
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Thanks for the input. Mine is a bit cleaner, and with a two blade warp I am
doing about 67 at 5500 as much as 75 at full cruise of 5800. Climb is
perhaps 450 fps at 4000 feet.
I did put Jimmy in touch with the guy and he got them, but he has since
sold his Firestar.
Thanks,
Larry
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 8:31 PM, frank goodnight <frank.goodnight@att.net>wrote:
> Larry,
> I use a 3 blade powerfin on my HKS powered firestar 2 if you remember my
> plane is really dragie ( no cover on the cage or under the tail ) large
> tires and a BRS canister under the belly. plus I carry 15 gal fuel and
> weigh about 250 , cruise about
> 55mph @ 5500 rpm, climb somewhere around 800 fpm --depend on temp . I
> chose a 3 blade because it gives me about 6in of
> clearance between prop tip and the boom. The 2blade only gave about an
> inch. Spent a couple of months in New Mexico
> And managed to get to 11,500 ft. to clear some of the mountians. Took
> almost 45 min. to get there and it was toped out.
> There was a guy in Hawai about the time I built mine that got his Hks
> firestar to 18,000 with a 2 blade powerfin,
> but he was a glider pilot and may have been riding a wave, claimed the 2
> blade was the way to go. Got a couple hundred
> hrs. on my 3 blade, no problems , and would choose it again if I were
> starting over.
> Did Jimmy Young contact you about the air scoops--they really work-- I
> can't get my cht over 315 no matter long I climb @ 40mph and 5,800 rpm &
> 100 degrees OAT.
> fly safe
> Frank
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
> *To:* "kolb-list@matronics.com" <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Tue, July 3, 2012 8:32:35 PM
> *Subject:* Kolb-List: Powerfin
>
> I would like to hear from those of you who have three blade Powerfin
> props. I am interested in proformance compared to two blades. Climb, cruise
> and how mush smoother. On or off list, your choice.
> Larry
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Larry, I have both WD and a Powerfin. The WD is a three blade, the Powerfin
a four with "F" blades. I ran the WD on a 582 with a 4 to 1 gearbox and the
Powerfin on an HKS with the 3.54 to 1 ratio. I thought the two engines and
their gearbox ratios were close enough that they would interchange so I
tried them both on the 582 on my Mk III. When I put the Powerfin on the 582
would not rev past about 4200 rpm and I aborted the take off. The HKS from
which the Powerfin had come would rev to 6000 in climb and 6200. By the
time I repitched the Pfin to work on the 582 I lost almost ten miles per
hour. I pulled two blades from the prop and repitched it for the 582 and
got back 6 miles an hour. My conclusion was that the HKS has a much broader
power band and the Powerfins ability to absorb it made it well suited to
the engine when run with that gearbox. How well it would work with the
lower ratio gearbox I do not know.
On the down side, on two occasions I have learned of the fragility of the
Powerfin. The first was when I forgot to put my glasses on and left them
hanging from the collar of my tee shirt. The wind ripped my glasses off and
they went through the prop. That cost me for two blades. A cheap pair of
five buck Dollar General bifocals cost me $330 that day. The second was
when I let the prairie grass get a little long in my back yard and I taxied
my trike out without mowing first. Tore up the ends of all four blades and
I had to go from a 68" prop to a 67 1/2" to get it cleaned up and
balanced. Obviously, the second would not have happened on the Kolb, but a
bolt or pin would do at least as good a job on Powerfin blades as those
cheap glasses did.
Rick Girard
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>wrote:
> I would like to hear from those of you who have three blade Powerfin
> props. I am interested in proformance compared to two blades. Climb, cruise
> and how mush smoother. On or off list, your choice.
> Larry
>
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> address before sending.*
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Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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Thanks, I appreciate the information. The prop in question has a nick in it
that has been repaired with JB weld. Not sure what caused it, rock I
suppose. My two blade warp launched a pair of heavy duty dikes all the way
to the roof of my hanger and down through my wing and I couldn't find a
nick in either of the blades. Just thinking about faster and smoother.
Probably better off where I am.
Thanks
Larry
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
> Larry, I have both WD and a Powerfin. The WD is a three blade, the
> Powerfin a four with "F" blades. I ran the WD on a 582 with a 4 to 1
> gearbox and the Powerfin on an HKS with the 3.54 to 1 ratio. I thought the
> two engines and their gearbox ratios were close enough that they would
> interchange so I tried them both on the 582 on my Mk III. When I put the
> Powerfin on the 582 would not rev past about 4200 rpm and I aborted the
> take off. The HKS from which the Powerfin had come would rev to 6000 in
> climb and 6200. By the time I repitched the Pfin to work on the 582 I lost
> almost ten miles per hour. I pulled two blades from the prop and repitched
> it for the 582 and got back 6 miles an hour. My conclusion was that the HKS
> has a much broader power band and the Powerfins ability to absorb it made
> it well suited to the engine when run with that gearbox. How well it would
> work with the lower ratio gearbox I do not know.
> On the down side, on two occasions I have learned of the fragility of the
> Powerfin. The first was when I forgot to put my glasses on and left them
> hanging from the collar of my tee shirt. The wind ripped my glasses off and
> they went through the prop. That cost me for two blades. A cheap pair of
> five buck Dollar General bifocals cost me $330 that day. The second was
> when I let the prairie grass get a little long in my back yard and I taxied
> my trike out without mowing first. Tore up the ends of all four blades and
> I had to go from a 68" prop to a 67 1/2" to get it cleaned up and
> balanced. Obviously, the second would not have happened on the Kolb, but a
> bolt or pin would do at least as good a job on Powerfin blades as those
> cheap glasses did.
>
> Rick Girard
>
> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I would like to hear from those of you who have three blade Powerfin
>> props. I am interested in proformance compared to two blades. Climb, cruise
>> and how mush smoother. On or off list, your choice.
>> Larry
>>
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> Mk IIIC
> Thanks, Homer GBYM
>
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Subject: | Re: fuel pressure high |
Are you having any problems with fuel overflowing the float bowl? The Rotax
installation manual, page 15-1 shows the single outlet fuel pump (Mikuni
DF44) used with the single carb engines. On page 15-2 it speaks of using an
electric and pneumatic pump with a max pressure of 7 psi.
Mikuni only lists the pump output and the DF52 at 35 liters per hour is
over three times what the DF44 puts out.
Rick Girard
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 1:53 PM, cdupuis <ctdupuis@maine.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> My fuel pressure is 11 psi at full speed on my 447. I teed the two lines
> off the pump together then to the single carb. What's normally done?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377164#377164
>
>
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Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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Hope all of you Kolb flyer's builder's, lurker's & dreamer's have a
blessed and safe 4th of July.
Safe trip home all - from the Rock house adventure. Love keeping up with
you.
Jim - presently at Camp Leatherneck - in the South (8 1/2hrs ahead of East
coast time)
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