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Wed 07/04/12


Total Messages Posted: 16



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     1. 04:36 AM - Re: Powerfin (Thom Riddle)
     2. 06:10 AM - Re: Re: Powerfin (Larry Cottrell)
     3. 06:30 AM - Re: Re: Powerfin (pcking)
     4. 07:00 AM - Re: Powerfin (Thom Riddle)
     5. 08:28 AM - Re: Re: Powerfin (Rick Neilsen)
     6. 09:00 AM - Re: Re: Powerfin (Larry Cottrell)
     7. 09:24 AM - Re: Powerfin (Thom Riddle)
     8. 10:41 AM - Re: Re: Powerfin (Dennis Souder)
     9. 10:46 AM - Re: Re: Powerfin (Larry Cottrell)
    10. 11:13 AM - Pitot tube placement on a Firestar.... (Nick Cassara)
    11. 02:29 PM - Video Montage (Dan Breitigam)
    12. 03:31 PM - Re: fuel pressure high (cdupuis)
    13. 04:16 PM - Re: Video Montage (william sullivan)
    14. 05:58 PM - Re: Pitot tube placement on a Firestar.... (Dana Hague)
    15. 05:58 PM - Re: Re: fuel pressure high (Dana Hague)
    16. 07:49 PM - Re: Video Montage ()
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:36:45 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Powerfin
    From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr@gmail.com>
    ...Just thinking about faster and smoother... Larry, If you want faster and smoother, you could get both by buying my Slingshot, which is for sale. I might even fly it to Oregon. I am buying a half share in a Diamond Katana and can't afford overhead for 1 1/2 airplanes, since I don't have my own airstrip and hangar. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Truth is what stands the test of experience. - Albert Einstein Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377232#377232


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    Time: 06:10:32 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Powerfin
    From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
    That's a nice thought, but I think an unnecessary extra powerfin would be a lot cheaper. :-) Larry On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Thom Riddle <riddletr@gmail.com> wrote: > > ...Just thinking about faster and smoother... > > Larry, > If you want faster and smoother, you could get both by buying my > Slingshot, which is for sale. I might even fly it to Oregon. I am buying a > half share in a Diamond Katana and can't afford overhead for 1 1/2 > airplanes, since I don't have my own airstrip and hangar. > > -------- > Thom Riddle > Buffalo, NY (9G0) > Kolb Slingshot SS-021 > Jabiru 2200A #1574 > Tennessee Prop 64x32 > > Truth is what stands the test of experience. > - Albert Einstein > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377232#377232 > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.*


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    Time: 06:30:27 AM PST US
    From: "pcking" <pc.king@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Powerfin
    In boating this is called two-foot-itis. You upgrade two feet at a time until you can't find crew, the boat draws too much to sneak into the holes you enjoyed, the fuel costs too much to run it and you wind up storing an idle boat in a pricey slip. You sell it to the next guy with the disease and get out of boating. At times you wax nostalgic for the simple (cheap) trailer sailer that you took to a different lake, river or bay every weekend. PCKing ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Cottrell To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 9:10 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Powerfin That's a nice thought, but I think an unnecessary extra powerfin would be a lot cheaper. :-) Larry On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Thom Riddle <riddletr@gmail.com> wrote: ...Just thinking about faster and smoother... Larry, If you want faster and smoother, you could get both by buying my Slingshot, which is for sale. I might even fly it to Oregon. I am buying a half share in a Diamond Katana and can't afford overhead for 1 1/2 airplanes, since I don't have my own airstrip and hangar. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Truth is what stands the test of experience. - Albert Einstein Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377232#377232 ========== arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========== -- If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.


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    Time: 07:00:25 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Powerfin
    From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr@gmail.com>
    Larry, You can buy a lot of Powerfins for one Slingshot :-). do not archive -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Truth is what stands the test of experience. - Albert Einstein Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377248#377248


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    Time: 08:28:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Powerfin
    From: Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm@gmail.com>
    Larry I have a three bladed 72" model F Powerfin prop. I couldn't be happier with it. I had a 5/16 X 2 inch bolt go through it on the way back from Oshkosh. I flew the remaining 6 hours home with no further problems. A few years back I purchased a two bladed Powerfin hub to just try it with two blades. The prop vibrated so bad I cut the first flight short and sold the two blade prop hub. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIC On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>wrote: > That's a nice thought, but I think an unnecessary extra powerfin would be > a lot cheaper. :-) > Larry > > On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Thom Riddle <riddletr@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> ...Just thinking about faster and smoother... >> >> Larry, >> If you want faster and smoother, you could get both by buying my >> Slingshot, which is for sale. I might even fly it to Oregon. I am buying a >> half share in a Diamond Katana and can't afford overhead for 1 1/2 >> airplanes, since I don't have my own airstrip and hangar. >> >> -------- >> Thom Riddle >> Buffalo, NY (9G0) >> Kolb Slingshot SS-021 >> Jabiru 2200A #1574 >> Tennessee Prop 64x32 >> >> Truth is what stands the test of experience. >> - Albert Einstein >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377232#377232 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ========== >> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List >> ========== >> http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> le, List Admin. >> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== >> >> >> >> > > > -- > *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email > address before sending.* > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 09:00:47 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Powerfin
    From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
    You know pcking had a pretty wise revelation. I once bought a Mark III in order to fly off my solo time and perhaps save a bit of money. The only down side was that it had a 582 on it. I tried for better than a year to sell my Firestar. Finally I was demonstrating it to a prospective buyer and discovered that it, unlike the Mark III was a hoot to fly. I sold the Mark III instead. This is nothing against any Mark III except those with less than a 912 for power. If I were you I would hesitate to sell your Slingshot, You might find that there is a place for it after all. A "go somewhere" plane is fine, but a cheap to fly to fun plane is hard to come by. Just a thought! Larry On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Thom Riddle <riddletr@gmail.com> wrote: > > Larry, > You can buy a lot of Powerfins for one Slingshot :-). > > do not archive > > -------- > Thom Riddle > Buffalo, NY (9G0) > Kolb Slingshot SS-021 > Jabiru 2200A #1574 > Tennessee Prop 64x32 > > Truth is what stands the test of experience. > - Albert Einstein > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377248#377248 > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.*


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    Time: 09:24:17 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Powerfin
    From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr@gmail.com>
    Larry, Much soul searching has gone before deciding to sell the Slingshot. For personal fun flight, it is hard to beat and the Jabiru (much later model than the one John W had) is a fine, powerful, lightweight, very fuel efficient, easy and cheap to maintain engine. However, I'm not a camping flyer like John H and a few other Kolbers and want to start making some trips to Atlanta to see my daughter and grandson, as well as a few other places. So, the Slingshot is for sale. If I were more financially well endowed, I'd certainly keep it and buy into the Katana as well, but such is not the case. Anyone who has ever thought they would like a Slingshot, this one, built by LuRay Wechter, is as fine an example as one could ever find. See barnstormers.com for my ads. Sorry for the sales pitch; it did not start out that way but sort of ended up as such. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Truth is what stands the test of experience. - Albert Einstein Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377261#377261


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    Time: 10:41:01 AM PST US
    From: "Dennis Souder" <flykolb@pa.net>
    Subject: Re: Powerfin
    At TOK company I lost count of those who traded off their FS for a more faster more capable aircraft. Many later lamented their decision. It is the "fun" factor. The FS (and SS) would fit in that class are just very fun aircraft to fly. A big part of that is visibility and that is why the FS out shines the M3's, you lose so much visibility with the M3. I recall someone who sold their FS and got a Rans S9; he said he knew he made a mistake on the first flight of the S9. John Roncz (Rutan's airfoil guru) mentioned in a forum at Oshkosh that he considered visibility the #1 criterion for his aircraft design - it had forward swept wings to enhance visibility. Little things enter into, like ease of pushing an airplane into and out of the hangar. The FS was so much easier than the M3. Dennis From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Cottrell Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 12:00 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Powerfin You know pcking had a pretty wise revelation. I once bought a Mark III in order to fly off my solo time and perhaps save a bit of money. The only down side was that it had a 582 on it. I tried for better than a year to sell my Firestar. Finally I was demonstrating it to a prospective buyer and discovered that it, unlike the Mark III was a hoot to fly. I sold the Mark III instead. This is nothing against any Mark III except those with less than a 912 for power. If I were you I would hesitate to sell your Slingshot, You might find that there is a place for it after all. A "go somewhere" plane is fine, but a cheap to fly to fun plane is hard to come by. Just a thought! Larry On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Thom Riddle <riddletr@gmail.com> wrote: Larry, You can buy a lot of Powerfins for one Slingshot :-). do not archive -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Truth is what stands the test of experience. - Albert Einstein Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377248#377248 ========== arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========== -- If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.


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    Time: 10:46:00 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Powerfin
    From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
    Personally I think that it should be offered on the list first to give us that love the planes the first chance. I would love to have it, but one is all I can handle at a time. Larry On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Thom Riddle <riddletr@gmail.com> wrote: > > Larry, > Much soul searching has gone before deciding to sell the Slingshot. For > personal fun flight, it is hard to beat and the Jabiru (much later model > than the one John W had) is a fine, powerful, lightweight, very fuel > efficient, easy and cheap to maintain engine. However, I'm not a camping > flyer like John H and a few other Kolbers and want to start making some > trips to Atlanta to see my daughter and grandson, as well as a few other > places. So, the Slingshot is for sale. If I were more financially well > endowed, I'd certainly keep it and buy into the Katana as well, but such is > not the case. > > Anyone who has ever thought they would like a Slingshot, this one, built > by LuRay Wechter, is as fine an example as one could ever find. See > barnstormers.com for my ads. Sorry for the sales pitch; it did not start > out that way but sort of ended up as such. > > -------- > Thom Riddle > Buffalo, NY (9G0) > Kolb Slingshot SS-021 > Jabiru 2200A #1574 > Tennessee Prop 64x32 > > Truth is what stands the test of experience. > - Albert Einstein > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377261#377261 > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.*


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    Time: 11:13:18 AM PST US
    From: "Nick Cassara" <nickc@mtaonline.net>
    Subject: Pitot tube placement on a Firestar....
    Hello Kolbers, I am wondering where you Firestar pilots have your pitot tubes located. I am building the Kolbra prototype kit which has a Firestar noise. The pitot tube was installed straight out the noise and appears to have only stuck out about a =BD inch. Based on the recent pitot tube discussion, this location does not sound ideal, unless I stick a 6=92=92 or longer tube out in to hopefully undisturbed air. So I was wondering where Firestar owners have their pitot tubes mounted? Under the nose seems like a good spot=85? Thanks for your thoughts, Nick Cassara Palmer Alaska


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    Time: 02:29:40 PM PST US
    Subject: Video Montage
    From: "Dan Breitigam" <dbrtgm@me.com>
    Hey gang, I put together this collection of clips from my last three flights over the last week or so. I did it mainly for my parents in California but thought there may be a few on the list who might enjoy it also. Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcZrhczMlSk Dan Breitigam Chattanooga TN Original Kolb Twinstar/503 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377287#377287


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    Time: 03:31:58 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: fuel pressure high
    From: "cdupuis" <ctdupuis@maine.rr.com>
    Hi, Nothing leaking from the bowl. This is my first 447 and the dual outlet is what's shown on the firefly drawing and what LEAF sent me w/ the engine. Can you plug one outlet or is it better to go w/ the smaller pump? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377289#377289


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    Time: 04:16:43 PM PST US
    From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Video Montage
    - Very nice.- Do more. ------------------------- -------------- Bill Sullivan ------------------------- -------------- Windsor Locks, Ct. ------------------------- -------------- FS 447 do not archive --- On Wed, 7/4/12, Dan Breitigam <dbrtgm@me.com> wrote: From: Dan Breitigam <dbrtgm@me.com> Subject: Kolb-List: Video Montage Hey gang, I put together this collection of clips from my last three flights over the last week or so.- I did it mainly for my parents in California but thoug ht there may be a few on the list who might enjoy it also.- Here is the l ink: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcZrhczMlSk Dan Breitigam Chattanooga TN Original Kolb Twinstar/503 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377287#377287 le, List Admin.


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    Time: 05:58:14 PM PST US
    From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Pitot tube placement on a Firestar....
    A lot of planes in this class (not just Kolbs) have the 1/2" stub out the front of the nose, with a 6" or so extension joined with a piece of flexible tubing. This gets it farther out front but saves it from damage if it gets hit. Put it under the nose and I think you'll get too much variation with pitch, unless it's well forward. -Dana At 02:13 PM 7/4/2012, Nick Cassara wrote: >I am wondering where you Firestar pilots have your pitot tubes located. I >am building the Kolbra prototype kit which has a Firestar noise. The pitot >tube was installed straight out the noise and appears to have only stuck >out about a =BD inch. Based on the recent pitot tube discussion, this >location does not sound ideal, unless I stick a 6 or longer tube out in to >hopefully undisturbed air. So I was wondering where Firestar owners have >their pitot tubes mounted? Under the nose seems like a good spot&? -- Error: Keyboard not attached. Press F1 to continue.


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    Time: 05:58:22 PM PST US
    From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: fuel pressure high
    At 06:31 PM 7/4/2012, cdupuis wrote: >Nothing leaking from the bowl. This is my first 447 and the dual outlet >is what's shown on the firefly drawing and what LEAF sent me w/ the >engine. Can you plug one outlet or is it better to go w/ the smaller pump? Plugging one outlet or teeing them both together makes no difference as far as pressure is concerned. Going to the smaller pump will also make no difference; the pressure is what the pulse pressure is from the crankcase. 11 psi does sound rather high; are you sure your pressure gauge is reading correctly? Or do you also have an electric pump in line? -Dana -- Error: Keyboard not attached. Press F1 to continue.


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    Time: 07:49:03 PM PST US
    From: <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Video Montage
    > I put together this collection of clips from my last three flights over the last week or so. > > Dan Breitigam That's Collegedale Airport. Usually land there on the way to the Kolb Company. john h mkIII Neosho, MO (Made it across Kansas today despite the headwinds and heat. Should be home tomorrow weather permitting.)




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