---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 07/23/12: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:05 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: (Ted Cowan) 2. 06:09 AM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: (David Kulp) 3. 06:30 AM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: (pcking) 4. 11:24 AM - A fairing for the Mk III (Richard Girard) 5. 05:21 PM - Re: Video- Long Draw Fire (kinne russ) 6. 05:29 PM - Re: Video- Long Draw Fire (John Hauck) 7. 06:09 PM - Re: Video- Long Draw Fire (Larry Cottrell) 8. 06:14 PM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: (chris davis) 9. 08:02 PM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: (David Kulp) 10. 08:54 PM - Re: Video- Long Draw Fire (pcking) 11. 09:37 PM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: (chris davis) 12. 09:51 PM - Re: Video- Long Draw Fire (Larry Cottrell) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:05:39 AM PST US From: "Ted Cowan" Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: I would like to thank David Kulp for sending me this stuff for the threads of my 912. I have been using just a little dab of never seize. Always have on all my motors. Never had a problem. Also put a silicone stuff around the top of the plug - on the white part -- to keep water out. Was a problem with the Cyunna engine. Got looking around and found a very larg tube of silicone heat sink that came with my sling shot about five years ago. Never gave it a thought. If this is the same stuff, which I believe it is from the internet, I will give the small tube to a friend of mine for his 912. Hope this is okay with David. Still for a 912. Thanks much. I would be happy to send the mailing money to him. Ted Cowan, Slingshot 912UL zoom zoom ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:09:14 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: From: David Kulp That'd be fine. No payment necessary Ted. Dave Do not archive Sent from my iPhone On Jul 23, 2012, at 7:05 AM, "Ted Cowan" wrote: > > I would like to thank David Kulp for sending me this stuff for the threads of my 912. I have been using just a little dab > of never seize. Always have on all my motors. Never had a problem. Also put a silicone stuff around the top of the > plug - on the white part -- to keep water out. Was a problem with the Cyunna engine. Got looking around and found a very > larg tube of silicone heat sink that came with my sling shot about five years ago. Never gave it a thought. If this is > the same stuff, which I believe it is from the internet, I will give the small tube to a friend of mine for his 912. Hope this > is okay with David. Still for a 912. Thanks much. I would be happy to send the mailing money to him. Ted Cowan, > Slingshot 912UL zoom zoom > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:30:26 AM PST US From: "pcking" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: David, The silicon heat sink arrived. Thank you, PCKing ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Kulp" Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 9:08 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: > > That'd be fine. No payment necessary Ted. > Dave > > Do not archive > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 23, 2012, at 7:05 AM, "Ted Cowan" wrote: > >> >> I would like to thank David Kulp for sending me this stuff for the >> threads of my 912. I have been using just a little dab >> of never seize. Always have on all my motors. Never had a problem. >> Also put a silicone stuff around the top of the >> plug - on the white part -- to keep water out. Was a problem with the >> Cyunna engine. Got looking around and found a very >> larg tube of silicone heat sink that came with my sling shot about five >> years ago. Never gave it a thought. If this is >> the same stuff, which I believe it is from the internet, I will give the >> small tube to a friend of mine for his 912. Hope this >> is okay with David. Still for a 912. Thanks much. I would be happy to >> send the mailing money to him. Ted Cowan, >> Slingshot 912UL zoom zoom >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:24:22 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: A fairing for the Mk III From: Richard Girard There hasn't been a lot of building activity on the forum for some time. Attached are two pics of the composite fairing I made for the aft end of the fuselage pod on Ken Holle's Mk IIIX. I call it a duck tail for short. The idea behind it is to help smooth the inflow to the prop, gain a little efficiency and maybe decrease drag a little. The first pic shows the profile of the duck tail and illustrates the construction method used to make it, your basic Burt Rutan moldless composite techniques. The shape was derived from pressure recovery shapes developed for sail plane fuselages. The second pic shows the part mounted on the airplane. >From a block of large cell (flotation billet) Styrofoam I hot wire cut the first side with the divot at the trailing edge and glassed it with two plies of BID at 45 degrees. Peel ply was placed over the lay up and wetted out. The drop from the cut was put aside to be used to hold the part for the second cut and when the second lay up was done. TIP: When you make the hot wire templates for a part like this, layout the nail holes (the templates are attached to the foam with 10 penny finishing nails) in a symmetrical pattern, stack up the templates and drill them all at one time. That way you can pull off the first template, attach the second and they line up perfectly. The first lay up was rough trimmed with a box knife while the glass was in the "green" stage. The second template was applied, the hot wire cut was made and two more plies of BID were laid up and peel plied. Once again the drop was retained for use later. This second lay up was rough trimmed in the green stage too. I mixed up a batch of heavy micro (glass micro balloons and epoxy) TIP: When the epoxy will not absorb any more micro balloons put a drop or two of denatured alcohol into the mix and it will absorb more. The idea is to make the mix as light as possible. The heavy micro was used to fill the divot, and scraped flush with the edges. A single layer of BID wide enough to cover the micro in the divot was wetted out an a strip of plastic sheet, a second piece of plastic sheet was placed over the glass and a squeegee was used to push out as much epoxy as possible while still keeping the glass wet (this method is known as the poor man's vacuum bagging technique). The top layer of plastic sheet was carefully peeled off and the bottom sheet was used to transport the lay up to the part. This lay up was applied over the micro fill to seal it. This, too, was green trimmed and the whole part was allowed to cure for a few days. After the part was fully cured it was placed between the drops from the hot wire cuts of the OML and the sandwich of part and drops was lightly clamped with a few rail clamps. The hot wire was charged and most of the block on the inside of the part was cut away. The inside of the mounting surfaces were scraped with a Surform tool to remove all the residual foam and the part was ready to trim to length and fit around the boom tube. The mounts are two lengths of 1/2" X 3/4" 2024-T3 aluminum angle .062" thick. They are held to the "H" frame uprights with three custom formed Adel clamps. At 5 inch intervals Nut Serts were installed so the duck tail could be attached with thin head 10-32 phillips screws. The duck tail, the mounting rails, and all the hardware weigh less than a pound and a half. Flight testing will be in a few days and we'll see if it actually does anything or if it just looks cool. IMOH :-} Rick Girard -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:21:07 PM PST US From: kinne russ Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Video- Long Draw Fire Larry Can't watch your video without a password! do not archive Russ On Jul 18, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote: > I rolled out Dart today to check on the fire. The visibility has finally cleared up a bit. It was quite windy, but since it was early, it was only just faster one direction more than the other, and my crosswind strip while pretty short, was right in line. > > I have been having some issues with my oil pressure in my HKS after a recent oil change. I replaced the recent oil filter with a new and different one, and had thought that it had helped. I had only flown some 12 miles when the pressure started fluctuating enough to cause an "alarm" from my EIS. Not wanting to walk back through a charred landscape, I turned tail for home, so the video is not as extensive as I would have liked it. > > The Kolb however preformed flawlessly as usual, and while the wife thought my landing was one of my best, it scared the crap out of me. My depth perception is not the greatest, and a 10 MPH headwind had me a bit slower than I really wanted, but the Firestar made it look easy, and a little throttle at the right time kept us high enough to clear the fence and touch down like a feather. > > https://vimeo.com/45984093 The password is "owyheeflyer" > > Larry > > -- > If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending. > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:29:20 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Video- Long Draw Fire You are a little quick on the draw. Try reading the original email. Right next to the url: "The password is "owyheeflyer". ;-) john h mkIII Titus, Alabama Larry Can't watch your video without a password! do not archive Russ https://vimeo.com/45984093 The password is "owyheeflyer" Larry ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:09:52 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Video- Long Draw Fire From: Larry Cottrell The password is the same- owyheeflyer. It was right behind the url link. Larry On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 6:20 PM, kinne russ wrote: > Larry > Can't watch your video without a password! " > > do not archive > Russ > > > On Jul 18, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote: > > I rolled out Dart today to check on the fire. The visibility has finally > cleared up a bit. It was quite windy, but since it was early, it was only > just faster one direction more than the other, and my crosswind strip while > pretty short, was right in line. > > I have been having some issues with my oil pressure in my HKS after a > recent oil change. I replaced the recent oil filter with a new and > different one, and had thought that it had helped. I had only flown some 12 > miles when the pressure started fluctuating enough to cause an "alarm" from > my EIS. Not wanting to walk back through a charred landscape, I turned tail > for home, so the video is not as extensive as I would have liked it. > > The Kolb however preformed flawlessly as usual, and while the wife thought > my landing was one of my best, it scared the crap out of me. My depth > perception is not the greatest, and a 10 MPH headwind had me a bit slower > than I really wanted, but the Firestar made it look easy, and a little > throttle at the right time kept us high enough to clear the fence and touch > down like a feather. > > https://vimeo.com/45984093 The password is "owyheeflyer" > > Larry > > -- > *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email > address before sending.* > > * > > * > > > * > > * > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:14:25 PM PST US From: chris davis Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: Dave , I never heard . Did I make your list of recievers? Chris=0A=0A=0AChr is Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building Fi refly=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: David Kulp =0ATo: "kolb-list@matronics.com" =0ASent : Monday, July 23, 2012 9:08 AM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Dig =0A=0AThat'd be fine. No payment necessary Ted. =0ADave=0A=0ADo not archive =0A=0ASent from my iPhone=0A=0AOn Jul 23, 2012, at 7:05 AM, "Ted Cowan" =0A> =0A> I would like to thank David Kulp for se nding me this stuff for the threads of my 912.- I have been using just a little dab=0A> of never seize.- Always have on all my motors.- Never ha d a problem.- Also put a silicone stuff around the top of the=0A> plug - on the white part -- to keep water out.- Was a problem with the Cyunna en gine.- Got looking around and found a very=0A> larg tube of silicone heat sink that came with my sling shot about five years ago.- Never gave it a thought.- If this is=0A> the same stuff, which I believe it is from the internet, I will give the small tube to a friend of mine for his 912.- Ho pe this=0A> is okay with David.- Still for a 912.- Thanks much.- I wo uld be happy to send the mailing money to him.- Ted Cowan,=0A> Slingshot == ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:02:29 PM PST US From: David Kulp Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: If I remember correctly you're out on the Cape, right? If so, it should have gotten to you by now. Dave On 7/23/2012 9:14 PM, chris davis wrote: > Dave , I never heard . Did I make your list of recievers? Chris > Chris Davis > KXP 503 492 hrs > Glider Pilot > Disabled from crash building Firefly > *From:* David Kulp > *To:* "kolb-list@matronics.com" > *Sent:* Monday, July 23, 2012 9:08 AM > *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: > > > > > That'd be fine. No payment necessary Ted. > Dave > > Do not archive > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 23, 2012, at 7:05 AM, "Ted Cowan" > wrote: > > > > > > > I would like to thank David Kulp for sending me this stuff for the > threads of my 912. I have been using just a little dab > > of never seize. Always have on all my motors. Never had a > problem. Also put a silicone stuff around the top of the > > plug - on the white part -- to keep water out. Was a problem with > the Cyunna engine. Got looking around and found a very > > larg tube of silicone heat sink that came with my sling shot about > five years ago. Never gave it a thought. If this is > > the same stuff, which I believe it is from the internet, I will give > the small tube to a friend of mine for his 912. Hope this > > is okay with David. Still for a 912. Thanks much. I would be > happy to send the mailing money to him. Ted Cowan, > > Slingshot 912UL zoom zoom > > > > > > > > --> > > > > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:54:59 PM PST US From: "pcking" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Video- Long Draw Fire John, Are you a fan of David Mallett or did you search for a fire song? He's not well known outside New England. In truth he isn't known much outside Maine. A powerful song. PCKing ----- Original Message ----- From: John Hauck To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:29 PM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Video- Long Draw Fire You are a little quick on the draw. Try reading the original email. Right next to the url: "The password is "owyheeflyer". ;-) john h mkIII Titus, Alabama Larry Can't watch your video without a password! do not archive Russ https://vimeo.com/45984093 The password is "owyheeflyer" Larry ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:37:29 PM PST US From: chris davis Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: ok zDave thank you very much ill check the mail tomorrow=0A=0A=0AChri . Chr iss Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building F irefly=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: David Kulp =0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Monday, July 23, 2012 11: 02 PM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest:=0A=0A=0AIf I remember correctly you're out on the Cape, right?- If so, it should have gotten t o you by now.- =0A=0ADave=0A=0A=0A=0AOn 7/23/2012 9:14 PM, chris davis wr ote:=0A=0ADave , I never heard . Did I make your list of recievers? Chris =0A>=0A>=0A>Chris Davis=0A>KXP 503 492 hrs=0A>Glider Pilot=0A>Disabled from crash building Firefly=0A>=0A>From: David Kulp mailto:undoctor@ptd.net=0A> Monday, July 23, 2012 9:08 AM=0A>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Dig =0A>=0A>That'd be fine. No payment necessary Ted. =0A>Dave=0A>=0A>Do not ar chive=0A>=0A>Sent from my iPhone=0A>=0A>On Jul 23, 2012, at 7:05 AM, "Ted C owan" wrote:=0A>=0A>> --> Kolb-List message posted b y: "Ted Cowan" =0A>> =0A>> I would like to thank Davi d Kulp for sending me this stuff for the threads of my 912.- I have been using just a little dab=0A>> of never seize.- Always have on all my motor s.- Never had a problem.- Also put a silicone stuff around the top of t he=0A>> plug - on the white part -- to keep water out.- Was a problem wit h the Cyunna engine.- Got looking around and found a very=0A>> larg tube of silicone heat sink that came with my sling shot about five years ago.- Never gave it a thought.- If this is=0A>> the same stuff, which I believ e it is from the internet, I will give the small tube to a friend of mine f or his 912.- Hope this=0A>> is okay with David.- Still for a 912.- Th anks much.- I would be happy to send the mailing money to him.- Ted Cow an,=0A>> Slingshot 912UL zoom zoom =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>>- --> =0A>=0A> ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:51:08 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Video- Long Draw Fire From: Larry Cottrell I am assuming that your question was aimed at me, since I made the video and used the song. I am a fan of David Mallett, and I think I have all his albums. He is quite a word smith, and I hope to hell he doesn't mind me using it. Perhaps its use will encourage some to try some of his stuff. I think I have sold a few Indian flute music CD's with my videos. :-) Larry On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:54 PM, pcking wrote: > ** > > John, > > Are you a fan of David Mallett or did you search for a fire song? > > He's not well known outside New England. In truth he isn't known much > outside Maine. > > A powerful song. > > PCKing > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* John Hauck > *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Monday, July 23, 2012 8:29 PM > *Subject:* RE: Kolb-List: Video- Long Draw Fire > > You are a little quick on the draw. **** > > ** ** > > Try reading the original email. **** > > ** ** > > Right next to the url: "The password is "owyheeflyer". ;-)**** > > ** ** > > john h**** > > mkIII**** > > Titus, Alabama**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Larry**** > > Can't watch your video without a password!**** > > do not archive**** > > Russ**** > > **** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > https://vimeo.com/45984093 The password is "owyheeflyer" > > Larry > **** > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c* > > * > > * > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.