---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 07/25/12: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:15 AM - Re: Re: RC kolb airplane (Michael Welch) 2. 10:54 AM - Re: RC kolb airplane (Frank Fanelli) 3. 10:54 AM - Re: RC kolb airplane (Frank Fanelli) 4. 10:59 AM - Silicon Heat Sink (Lockamy, Jack CIV Atlantic Targets Marine Ops, AD.5.3.3 / Key West Det) 5. 12:00 PM - New Firestar II owner - question about elevator oscillations (EricS) 6. 02:22 PM - Re: New Firestar II owner - question about elevator oscillations (Richard Girard) 7. 03:15 PM - Re: RC kolb airplane (Richard Pike) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:15:03 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: RC kolb airplane From: Michael Welch Bro. Richard, > "how about another flight in the morning?" Better yet, how about a picture of your Firestar RC model and even one of your Flying Ninja Monkey. Mike Welch ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:54:33 AM PST US From: Frank Fanelli Subject: Re: Kolb-List: RC kolb airplane Hi guys: Been following this thread on the list--I own a Firestar--and have been pretty interested in it since I put out a model airplane magazine that caters to builders. Please keep me informed, and Mark, would you consider publishing it in the magazine? Let me know. On 7/24/2012 3:23 PM, Mark Shimei wrote: > If I remember...someone on this list was looking into plans or a kit > that could be modified into a Kolb > I am in the process of building a 1/6 scale of my ultrastar,but > figured I would complicate it. > > The wings and tail will fold like the real one,and the shocks I > installed for the landing gear will be functional also. > > Here is a link to the site which I update every few days. > http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1683085 > > May have to copy and paste. > > If there are those that think this is not Kolb related,just say so > and I will no longer post. > However, I dont see why it wouldnt,I have seen more postings about > seafoam and other worthless subjects beat to death here than on any > other list I am a member of.(5 right now,was over 11) > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:54:59 AM PST US From: Frank Fanelli Subject: Re: Kolb-List: RC kolb airplane Hi guys: Been following this thread on the list--I own a Firestar--and have been pretty interested in it since I put out a model airplane magazine that caters to builders. Please keep me informed, and Mark, would you consider publishing it in the magazine? Let me know. On 7/24/2012 3:23 PM, Mark Shimei wrote: > If I remember...someone on this list was looking into plans or a kit > that could be modified into a Kolb > I am in the process of building a 1/6 scale of my ultrastar,but > figured I would complicate it. > > The wings and tail will fold like the real one,and the shocks I > installed for the landing gear will be functional also. > > Here is a link to the site which I update every few days. > http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1683085 > > May have to copy and paste. > > If there are those that think this is not Kolb related,just say so > and I will no longer post. > However, I dont see why it wouldnt,I have seen more postings about > seafoam and other worthless subjects beat to death here than on any > other list I am a member of.(5 right now,was over 11) > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:59:51 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Silicon Heat Sink From: "Lockamy, Jack CIV Atlantic Targets Marine Ops, AD.5.3.3 / Key West Det" Dave, Thanks the tube of silicon! Arrived in yesterday's mail... Jack in Key West DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:00:41 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: New Firestar II owner - question about elevator oscillations From: "EricS" Hello fellow Kolbers, First let me say thanks to all for the helpful info. found here on a variety of subjects. I have around 30 hrs. in my new (used) Firestar II/503 and I spent many hours before and after I started flying it perusing the archives. According to what I can find in the archives, I seem to have an unusual problem. The issue I'm having is elevator oscillations. It's not elevator flutter. Once while flying with my Dad in his Kitfox we experienced sudden and violent aileron flutter, so I know what flutter feels like and this is different. I dialed her in with rudder and aileron trim tabs and she'll fly straight as an arrow, hands off, in calm conditions. But when she gets bounced around in light turbulence, the elevator will occasionally begin to oscillate if I don't keep a firm grip on the stick. It starts slowly and will increase gradually, but I can easily stop it by changing airspeed or pitch. I had a former Firestar pilot and multiple airplane builder fly with me in his Rans to watch and he said the boom tube began flexing - that's not good. The immediate solution has been to never let go of the stick. I'll call Kolb about it, but I thought I would check here first to see if others have experience with this and if there is a known solution. I have balance rods on my ailerons. It sounds like I need them for my elevator too. Thanks, Eric -Currently flying in New Mexico, just S. of Albuquerque Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379170#379170 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:22:37 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New Firestar II owner - question about elevator oscillations From: Richard Girard Eric, Flutter is an a self excited oscillation that increases in amplitude. It can be of low, medium or high frequency. Try putting on stronger trim springs on the elevator circuits or add counter balances to stop it, but this is flutter and you need to get it stopped before it gets out of hand. Has your aircraft ever been repainted? Rick Girard Do not archive On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 2:00 PM, EricS wrote: > > Hello fellow Kolbers, > > First let me say thanks to all for the helpful info. found here on a > variety of subjects. I have around 30 hrs. in my new (used) Firestar > II/503 and I spent many hours before and after I started flying it perusing > the archives. > > According to what I can find in the archives, I seem to have an unusual > problem. The issue I'm having is elevator oscillations. It's not elevator > flutter. Once while flying with my Dad in his Kitfox we experienced sudden > and violent aileron flutter, so I know what flutter feels like and this is > different. > > I dialed her in with rudder and aileron trim tabs and she'll fly straight > as an arrow, hands off, in calm conditions. But when she gets bounced > around in light turbulence, the elevator will occasionally begin to > oscillate if I don't keep a firm grip on the stick. It starts slowly and > will increase gradually, but I can easily stop it by changing airspeed or > pitch. I had a former Firestar pilot and multiple airplane builder fly > with me in his Rans to watch and he said the boom tube began flexing - > that's not good. The immediate solution has been to never let go of the > stick. > > I'll call Kolb about it, but I thought I would check here first to see if > others have experience with this and if there is a known solution. I have > balance rods on my ailerons. It sounds like I need them for my elevator > too. > > Thanks, > Eric > -Currently flying in New Mexico, just S. of Albuquerque > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379170#379170 > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:15:56 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: RC kolb airplane From: "Richard Pike" Ok, here ya go. Bear in mind that the primary concerns are indestructability and ease of repair, and not fidelity to scale appearance. Or any other kind of appearance, which is good, this thing has already been knocked out of a tree twice when it got stuck about 30 feet up. Duct taping one bamboo pole to another and then using the extreme end to poke and flail at the model while standing on a 6' step ladder does nothing to improve the cosmetics... -------- Richard Pike Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org Kingsport, TN 3TN0 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 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