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Fri 08/10/12


Total Messages Posted: 10



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     1. 12:35 PM - Re: Icom External Antenna (Gary Aman)
     2. 01:03 PM - Re: Icom External Antenna (Lockamy, Jack CIV Atlantic Targets Marine Ops, AD.5.3.3 / Key West Det)
     3. 01:21 PM - Re: Icom External Antenna (David Kulp)
     4. 01:37 PM - Re: Icom External Antenna (David Kulp)
     5. 01:42 PM - Re: Icom External Antenna (Frank Fanelli)
     6. 04:51 PM - Re: Icom External Antenna (b young)
     7. 05:49 PM - Re: Icom External Antenna (Gary Aman)
     8. 05:54 PM - Re: Icom External Antenna (Gary Aman)
     9. 06:35 PM - Re: Icom External Antenna (Dana Hague)
    10. 09:57 PM - Re: Icom External Antenna (b young)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:35:56 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Icom External Antenna
    From: Gary Aman <zeprep251@aol.com>
    This is actually covered in a March post from Boyd Young, but I need some m ore particulars if you don't mind.Looks like RG58, but what lengths do I st art with before tuning with the SWR meter Boyd? Thanx G.Aman -----Original Message----- From: b young <byoungplumbing@gmail.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 22, 2011 2:57 pm Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Icom External Antenna I've got an icom A5 and would like to get an external antenna that I can mo unt on the belly of my Mark3. Anyone out have any good recommendations? my dipole center is at the left side bottom of the nose cone, the center w ire goes up the left side and accross the top. and the braided wire angels back on about a 45 deg under the floor. the position was selected to gi ve the best swr, and both wires were cut to give the best swr's. way che ep, way easy, and nothing sticking outside to get bumped or bent. one watt radio will talk 150 miles plane to plane. the signal report was good sign al but with some background noise. last week i had a hard time talking t o another plane (super cub) in the area,,, but one of the fbo's who was further away heard me ok and relayed to the super cub. made me think the r adio setup in the cub was not up to par. he could hear the fbo but the fbo is putting out 15 watts. boyd young mkiii


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    Time: 01:03:27 PM PST US
    Subject: Icom External Antenna
    From: "Lockamy, Jack CIV Atlantic Targets Marine Ops, AD.5.3.3 / Key West Det"
    <jack.lockamy@navy.mil> For a 1/4 wave antenna in the VHF Airband (118.0-136.0 MHz) about 20" will put you in the middle of the spectrum (127.0 MHz). Good luck. Jack in Key West -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Aman Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 15:33 Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Icom External Antenna This is actually covered in a March post from Boyd Young, but I need some more particulars if you don't mind.Looks like RG58, but what lengths do I start with before tuning with the SWR meter Boyd? Thanx G.Aman -----Original Message----- From: b young <byoungplumbing@gmail.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 22, 2011 2:57 pm Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Icom External Antenna I've got an icom A5 and would like to get an external antenna that I can mount on the belly of my Mark3. Anyone out have any good recommendations? my dipole center is at the left side bottom of the nose cone, the center wire goes up the left side and accross the top. and the braided wire angels back on about a 45 deg under the floor. the position was selected to give the best swr, and both wires were cut to give the best swr's. way cheep, way easy, and nothing sticking outside to get bumped or bent. one watt radio will talk 150 miles plane to plane. the signal report was good signal but with some background noise. last week i had a hard time talking to another plane (super cub) in the area,,, but one of the fbo's who was further away heard me ok and relayed to the super cub. made me think the radio setup in the cub was not up to par. he could hear the fbo but the fbo is putting out 15 watts. boyd young mkiii


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    Time: 01:21:58 PM PST US
    From: David Kulp <undoctor@ptd.net>
    Subject: Re: Icom External Antenna


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    Time: 01:37:09 PM PST US
    From: David Kulp <undoctor@ptd.net>
    Subject: Re: Icom External Antenna


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    Time: 01:42:12 PM PST US
    From: Frank Fanelli <frankf@flying-models.com>
    Subject: Re: Icom External Antenna
    One other item I'd like to find out is the best and maybe easiest way to suppress ignition noise. Is it necessary to go the full gamut and use resistor plugs, cap, and ignition lead shielding? Will strobes also add to the noise? Frank Fanelli On 8/10/2012 4:01 PM, Lockamy, Jack CIV Atlantic Targets Marine Ops, AD.5.3.3 / Key West Det wrote: > For a 1/4 wave antenna in the VHF Airband (118.0-136.0 MHz) about 20" will put you in the middle of the spectrum (127.0 MHz). > > Good luck. > > Jack in Key West > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Aman > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 15:33 > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Icom External Antenna > > This is actually covered in a March post from Boyd Young, but I need some more particulars if you don't mind.Looks like RG58, but what lengths do I start with before tuning with the SWR meter Boyd? > Thanx G.Aman > > > -----Original Message----- > From: b young<byoungplumbing@gmail.com> > To: kolb-list<kolb-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Tue, Mar 22, 2011 2:57 pm > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Icom External Antenna > > > I've got an icom A5 and would like to get an external antenna that I can mount on the belly of my Mark3. Anyone out have any good recommendations? > > my dipole center is at the left side bottom of the nose cone, the center wire goes up the left side and accross the top. and the braided wire angels back on about a 45 deg under the floor. the position was selected to give the best swr, and both wires were cut to give the best swr's. way cheep, way easy, and nothing sticking outside to get bumped or bent. one watt radio will talk 150 miles plane to plane. the signal report was good signal but with some background noise. last week i had a hard time talking to another plane (super cub) in the area,,, but one of the fbo's who was further away heard me ok and relayed to the super cub. made me think the radio setup in the cub was not up to par. he could hear the fbo but the fbo is putting out 15 watts. > > boyd young > mkiii


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    Time: 04:51:07 PM PST US
    From: "b young" <byoungplumbing@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Icom External Antenna
    This is actually covered in a March post from Boyd Young, but I need some more particulars if you don't mind.Looks like RG58, but what lengths do I start with before tuning with the SWR meter Boyd? Thanx G.Aman i started plenty long.. i think about 25 inches, on both legs, the inner connector, and braid... my ham radio club has an antenna analizer, and i used it to figure the final legnths... i will have to measure the next time i go to the airport. boyd do not archive


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    Time: 05:49:39 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Icom External Antenna
    From: Gary Aman <zeprep251@aol.com>
    Thanks Boyd, I wondered if I could use the same SWR meter that I had for CB? G.A. -----Original Message----- From: b young <byoungplumbing@gmail.com> Sent: Fri, Aug 10, 2012 7:51 pm Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Icom External Antenna This is actually covered in a March post from Boyd Young, but I need some m ore particulars if you don't mind.Looks like RG58, but what lengths do I st art with before tuning with the SWR meter Boyd? Thanx G.Aman i started plenty long.. i think about 25 inches, on both legs, the inner connector, and braid... my ham radio club has an antenna analizer, and i used it to figure the final legnths... i will have to measure the next time i go to the airport. boyd do not archive


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    Time: 05:54:49 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Icom External Antenna
    From: Gary Aman <zeprep251@aol.com>
    Frank, I'm fighting the same issue with the Jabiru.Resistor plugs made no differen ce.Shutting the engine off helps the most. G.Aman -----Original Message----- From: Frank Fanelli <frankf@flying-models.com> Sent: Fri, Aug 10, 2012 4:42 pm Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Icom External Antenna One other item I'd like to find out is the best and maybe easiest way to suppress ignition noise. Is it necessary to go the full gamut and use resistor plugs, cap, and ignition lead shielding? Will strobes also add to the noise? Frank Fanelli On 8/10/2012 4:01 PM, Lockamy, Jack CIV Atlantic Targets Marine Ops, AD.5.3.3 / Key West Det wrote: > For a 1/4 wave antenna in the VHF Airband (118.0-136.0 MHz) about 20" wil l put you in the middle of the spectrum (127.0 MHz). > > Good luck. > > Jack in Key West > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server @matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Aman > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 15:33 > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Icom External Antenna > > This is actually covered in a March post from Boyd Young, but I need some more particulars if you don't mind.Looks like RG58, but what lengths do I start with before tuning with the SWR meter Boyd? > Thanx G.Aman > > > -----Original Message----- > From: b young<byoungplumbing@gmail.com> > To: kolb-list<kolb-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Tue, Mar 22, 2011 2:57 pm > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Icom External Antenna > > > I've got an icom A5 and would like to get an external antenna that I can mount on the belly of my Mark3. Anyone out have any good recommendations? > > my dipole center is at the left side bottom of the nose cone, the center wire goes up the left side and accross the top. and the braided wire angels bac k on about a 45 deg under the floor. the position was selected to give the be st swr, and both wires were cut to give the best swr's. way cheep, way easy , and nothing sticking outside to get bumped or bent. one watt radio will talk 15 0 miles plane to plane. the signal report was good signal but with some background noise. last week i had a hard time talking to another plane (s uper cub) in the area,,, but one of the fbo's who was further away heard me o k and relayed to the super cub. made me think the radio setup in the cub was not up to par. he could hear the fbo but the fbo is putting out 15 watts. > > boyd young > mkiii


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    Time: 06:35:43 PM PST US
    From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Icom External Antenna
    At 04:39 PM 8/10/2012, Frank Fanelli wrote: > >One other item I'd like to find out is the best and maybe easiest way to >suppress ignition noise. Is it necessary to go the full gamut and use >resistor plugs, cap, and ignition lead shielding? Will strobes also add to >the noise? You can use resistor plugs, OR resistor caps. Use both together and you can fry your ignition. Shielding always helps. For me, the combination of resistor plugs and the "ANL" setting (automatic noise limiter) on the radio is all I need. Strobes can add noise, but I don't notice any from mine. -Dana -- Congress shall make no law....What part of NO didn't you understand?


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    Time: 09:57:16 PM PST US
    From: "b young" <byoungplumbing@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Icom External Antenna
    Thanks Boyd, I wondered if I could use the same SWR meter that I had for CB? G.A. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> i am doubtfull.... cb is around 50 mhz,,, aircraft centers at 127 mhz,,, i dont think it will cover that mhz spread.( check the owners/ tech manual) check arrl.org,, and see if there is a ham radio club in your area,, can probabley get some help for free. \\\ boyd




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