---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 08/20/12: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:12 AM - Re: Re: Flyin at Houghton Lake (Malcolm Brubaker) 2. 06:05 AM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel (Jack B. Hart) 3. 06:12 AM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel (Gary Aman) 4. 06:38 AM - Re: Re: Tail Post supports (Gary Aman) 5. 06:58 AM - Tail post support question (Lanny Fetterman) 6. 07:03 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel (Thom Riddle) 7. 08:50 AM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel (John Hauck) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:12:39 AM PST US From: Malcolm Brubaker Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Flyin at Houghton Lake let me know about houghton lake we love that fly in- barstow is sep8 and we are having a camp out the weekend of Remax Baloon fest sep14- mal=0A =0A=0AMalcolm & Jeanne Brubaker =0AMichigan Sport Pilot Repair =0Ahttp://m ichigansportpilotrepair.com/ =0ALSRM-A, PPC, WS=0AGreat Sails - Sailmaker =0Afor Ultralight & Light Sport=0A(989)513-3022 =0A- =0A=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A_ _______________________________=0A From: ces308 =0ATo: ko lb-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 7:55 PM=0ASubject: K olb-List: Re: Flyin at Houghton Lake=0A =0A--> Kolb-List message posted by : "ces308" =0A=0ARick....=0A=0AI pulled the plug on this Thursday night when the weatherman predicted 20-30 mph winds with lake effe ct rain showers though Saturday night.Friday was crappy,but Saturday was no thing like they said it would be... Imagine that....I will be out of town t his coming weekend.Maybe this fall I will try it again,but it will be a Sat urday event.=0A=0AI was really looking forward to this and will certainly t ry it again.I will let you know in advance !=0A=0Achris ambrose=0AM3X / Jab iru A-2200=0AN327CS=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp:// forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381290#381290=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A ============== ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:05:37 AM PST US From: "Jack B. Hart" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel At 09:04 AM 8/19/12 -0600, you wrote: > > >I'd have a difficult time flying my mkIII without >differential brakes. > John, Why do you need differential brakes for flying? Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:12:22 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel From: Gary Aman We call dem air brakes do not archive -----Original Message----- From: Jack B. Hart Sent: Mon, Aug 20, 2012 9:05 am Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel At 09:04 AM 8/19/12 -0600, you wrote: > > >I'd have a difficult time flying my mkIII without >differential brakes. > John, Why do you need differential brakes for flying? Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:38:09 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tail Post supports From: Gary Aman Rick, My FS broke the lower aluminum tube flush with the steel just like the pict ure.I reinforced it using a thicker tube and months later it broke at the s teel tube up by the ring as in the photo.If you just push on the top of the tail post you can quickly identify the side loads that affect these tubes even WITH a swivel tail wheel.I am a believer in these braces but It looks like no one but me feels that way about the tail spring clamp. IMHO G.Aman MK3C jabiru 2200A 740hrs -----Original Message----- From: Ellery Batchelder Jr Sent: Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:09 pm Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tail Post supports Thank You Rick I have just repaired my second Tail post on a different kol b in the same place and this is no longer a problem area with the side loa d supports just my experience but results may differ from other views Ellery Batchelder Jr. -----Original Message----- From: Rick Neilsen Sent: Sun, Aug 19, 2012 9:32 pm Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tail Post supports Dennis I have never seen that kind of breakage. I have to ask if plane was built t o specifications. My MKIIIC has a fairly strong .125 wall bottom tube that has in most Kolbs kept that kind of breakage from happening. Normally we s ee side loads causing the problems Ellery has described the fix for. I have had the turning bogie wheel and now the locking/swivel tail wheel on my MK IIIC both of these wheels can produce the side loads that can cause long te rm failure of the tail post without the fix. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Dennis Thate wrote : Ellery, I respectfully disagree. The non-turnable Pizza Cutter tail wheel puts a si de torque on the lower tail-fin midway, so when forced into a tight turn, i t will break, where as a swivel wheel eliminates this problem. Take note where mine broke in two places. I don't believe your concept woul d offer any solution to this, because you are reinforcing it in the wrong l ocation. Hope this photo helps clarify things. -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist inve nts the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381274#381274 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/two_fractures_101.jpg arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List http://forums.matronics.com le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:58:06 AM PST US From: "Lanny Fetterman" Subject: Kolb-List: Tail post support question I have been reading this thread with great interest .Perhaps I missed this information, what material are you using to make the braces? Lanny, FS II ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:03:39 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel From: "Thom Riddle" With a full swivel tailwheel and differential brakes, ground handling in tight places is very easy and I'm glad I have them on my Slingshot. Balancing wheels/tires is pretty simple with the go-kart wheel balancer. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Truth is what stands the test of experience. - Albert Einstein Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381351#381351 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/tailwheel_466.jpg ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:50:47 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel Why do you need differential brakes for flying? Jack B. Hart FF004 Jack H/Kolbers: I start logging flight time when I start the engine. Taxi, takeoff, and landing, are part of the "big picture" of flying. Sorry if you did not understand. What did you think I meant? Gary A: There are times when I wished I had had "dem air brakes". ;-) john h mkIII Sargents, Colorado ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.