---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 09/27/12: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:40 AM - Seat frame brace (Dennis Thate) 2. 04:33 PM - Re: Seat frame brace (209GS) 3. 04:56 PM - Re: Seat frame brace (Dennis Thate) 4. 06:02 PM - oil usage?? (Malcolm Brubaker) 5. 06:11 PM - Re: oil usage?? (Herb Gayheart) 6. 06:17 PM - New Blog entry (Larry Cottrell) 7. 06:24 PM - Re: oil usage?? (pcking) 8. 06:47 PM - Re: oil usage?? (Lanny Fetterman) 9. 07:15 PM - Re: oil usage?? (Herb Gayheart) 10. 08:57 PM - Re: oil usage?? (b young) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:40:08 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Seat frame brace From: "Dennis Thate" A very light thin walled piece of tubing solved the Firestar II weak frame issue. -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384072#384072 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/frame_2_210.jpg ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:33:36 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Seat frame brace From: "209GS" What issue is that? -------- Gerry Uebbing Firestar II 503 b-box (not flying yet) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384104#384104 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:56:24 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Seat frame brace From: "Dennis Thate" Gerry, Hands down..... the Kolb Firestar is probably the most fun aviation experience you will most likely ever have. [ But the little Kolb is a bit frail in places.] But nothing that can't be resolved if you are resource full. I flew nearly two hours today and shared a heavy thermal with a bunch of rising corn leaves and a couple migrating hawks within fifty feet of me . My little Firstar II moaned and groaned a bit but the seat back brace never bent a bit this time. And Remember....... :) -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384105#384105 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/cloud_cover_918.jpg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:02:51 PM PST US From: Malcolm Brubaker Subject: Kolb-List: oil usage?? My new plane has oil injection and i have never used oil injection befor so im getting used to topping it off. it looks like my last 2 nites flying four short flights 4 landings and take offs with taxing and such I burned 9 gallons gas in 2.2 hrs and used 12 oz of semi synthetic oil. Is this a safe amount? of oil for that many gallons of fuel over that time on the tiny tac? mal Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker Michigan Sport Pilot Repair http://michigansportpilotrepair.com/ LSRM-A, PPC, WS Great Sails - Sailmaker for Ultralight & Light Sport (989)513-3022 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:11:20 PM PST US From: Herb Gayheart Subject: Re: Kolb-List: oil usage?? Mac Oil injection runs proportionately to the throttle opening...Good thing...lean of oil at low speeds and likely 50 to 1 at elevated rpms.. notice the lever on the oil pump... it has a linear function... Herb At 08:00 PM 9/27/2012, you wrote: >My new plane has oil injection and i have never used oil injection >befor so im getting used to topping it off. it looks like my last 2 >nites flying four short flights 4 landings and take offs with taxing >and such I burned 9 gallons gas in 2.2 hrs and used 12 oz of semi >synthetic oil. >Is this a safe amount? of oil for that many gallons of fuel over >that time on the tiny tac? >mal > >Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker >Michigan Sport Pilot Repair >http://michigansportpilotrepair.com/ >LSRM-A, PPC, WS >Great Sails - Sailmaker >for Ultralight & Light Sport >(989)513-3022 > > >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List >http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:17:19 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: New Blog entry From: Larry Cottrell I flew yesterday morning to the Jordan Craters Lava Flow. I had flown there before we moved here and wanted to get some videos of the area. It is an area of very nasty places to not go down in, and while my engine and plane did not let me down, it has been a trial getting it so that you could see it. I am not sure if it will run all the way through or not. Please be kind enough to tell me if it does not. http://highdesertflier.blogspot.com/ The password is owyheeflyer Larry -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:24:22 PM PST US From: "pcking" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: oil usage?? Doesn't that come out to 96:1? Is that right? ----- Original Message ----- From: Herb Gayheart To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:08 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: oil usage?? Mac Oil injection runs proportionately to the throttle opening...Good thing...lean of oil at low speeds and likely 50 to 1 at elevated rpms.. notice the lever on the oil pump... it has a linear function... Herb At 08:00 PM 9/27/2012, you wrote: My new plane has oil injection and i have never used oil injection befor so im getting used to topping it off. it looks like my last 2 nites flying four short flights 4 landings and take offs with taxing and such I burned 9 gallons gas in 2.2 hrs and used 12 oz of semi synthetic oil. Is this a safe amount? of oil for that many gallons of fuel over that time on the tiny tac? mal Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker Michigan Sport Pilot Repair http://michigansportpilotrepair.com/ LSRM-A, PPC, WS Great Sails - Sailmaker for Ultralight & Light Sport (989)513-3022 Email Forum - http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - http://forums.matronics.com - List Contribution Web Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:47:22 PM PST US From: "Lanny Fetterman" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: oil usage?? That`s the ratio I got, when I did the math. (96/1) Seems a little lean on oil to me. I took my oil injector off my 503, so I could install an electric starter. I premix 50/1, so I`m not sure if an average of 96/1 is good or not. As Herb said the amount of oil injected varies with RPM. Still that might not be enough oil. In order to average 96/1 it has to be running at an even higher ratio at some throttle settings. That would make me nervous. Lanny FSII From: pcking Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:22 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: oil usage?? Doesn't that come out to 96:1? Is that right? ----- Original Message ----- From: Herb Gayheart To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:08 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: oil usage?? Mac Oil injection runs proportionately to the throttle opening...Good thing...lean of oil at low speeds and likely 50 to 1 at elevated rpms.. notice the lever on the oil pump... it has a linear function... Herb At 08:00 PM 9/27/2012, you wrote: My new plane has oil injection and i have never used oil injection befor so im getting used to topping it off. it looks like my last 2 nites flying four short flights 4 landings and take offs with taxing and such I burned 9 gallons gas in 2.2 hrs and used 12 oz of semi synthetic oil. Is this a safe amount? of oil for that many gallons of fuel over that time on the tiny tac? mal Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker Michigan Sport Pilot Repair http://michigansportpilotrepair.com/ LSRM-A, PPC, WS Great Sails - Sailmaker for Ultralight & Light Sport (989)513-3022 Email Forum - http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - http://forums.matronics.com - List Contribution Web Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Kolb-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:15:51 PM PST US From: Herb Gayheart Subject: Re: Kolb-List: oil usage?? The link talks about over 100 to 1....Herb At 08:44 PM 9/27/2012, you wrote: >That`s the ratio I got, when I did the math. (96/1) Seems a little >lean on oil to me. I took my oil injector off my 503, so I could >install an electric starter. I premix 50/1, so I`m not sure if an >average of 96/1 is good or not. As Herb said the amount of oil >injected varies with RPM. Still that might not be enough oil. In >order to average 96/1 it has to be running at an even higher ratio >at some throttle settings. That would make me nervous. Lanny FSII > >From: pcking >Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:22 PM >To: kolb-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: oil usage?? > > >Doesn't that come out to 96:1? > >Is that right? > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Herb Gayheart >To: kolb-list@matronics.com >Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:08 PM >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: oil usage?? > >Mac > > Oil injection runs proportionately to the throttle > opening...Good thing...lean of oil at low speeds and likely 50 to 1 > at elevated rpms.. notice the lever on the oil pump... it has a > linear function... Herb > > >At 08:00 PM 9/27/2012, you wrote: >>My new plane has oil injection and i have never used oil injection >>befor so im getting used to topping it off. it looks like my last 2 >>nites flying four short flights 4 landings and take offs with >>taxing and such I burned 9 gallons gas in 2.2 hrs and used 12 oz of >>semi synthetic oil. >>Is this a safe amount? of oil for that many gallons of fuel over >>that time on the tiny tac? >>mal >> >>Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker >>Michigan Sport Pilot Repair >>http://michigansportpilotrepair.com/ >>LSRM-A, PPC, WS >>Great Sails - Sailmaker >>for Ultralight & Light Sport >>(989)513-3022 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Email Forum - >> >> >>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List >> >>- MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - >> >>http://forums.matronics.com >> >>- List Contribution Web Site - >> >>-Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> >> >>http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> > > >href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > >href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > >href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > >href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List >href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:57:08 PM PST US From: "b young" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: oil usage?? I guess I don=99t understand =9Chigher ratio at some throttle settings=9D seems that the oil injector has an actuator that is linked to/with the throttle....when you are at idle, there is only a small amount of oil being injected,,,, when you are at WOT the oil injector is pumping more oil,,, but the ratio of oil to gas should be constant. more throttle =more gas and more oil less throttle=less gas and less oil....but both should be a constant mix..... the only experience I have had with oil injection was with a snowmobile.... when the injector failed for the second time,,,,, I removed it and went to pre mix. boyd young mkiii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That`s the ratio I got, when I did the math. (96/1) Seems a little lean on oil to me. I took my oil injector off my 503, so I could install an electric starter. I premix 50/1, so I`m not sure if an average of 96/1 is good or not. As Herb said the amount of oil injected varies with RPM. Still that might not be enough oil. In order to average 96/1 it has to be running at an even higher ratio at some throttle settings. That would make me nervous. 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