---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 09/28/12: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:46 AM - Re: Re: Seat frame brace (Pat Ladd) 2. 06:19 AM - Re: oil usage?? (Gary Aman) 3. 07:09 AM - Kolb Mark III Classic for Sale (zeus627) 4. 12:56 PM - Re: New Blog entry (Martin Koxxy) 5. 03:10 PM - Re: New Blog entry (Larry Cottrell) 6. 06:40 PM - Re: kolbster ages (Robert Laird) 7. 06:45 PM - Re: oil usage?? (Richard Girard) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:46:45 AM PST US From: "Pat Ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Seat frame brace shared a heavy thermal with a bunch of rising corn leaves >> Engine OFF, throttled back, cruise revs? Pat ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:19:27 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: oil usage?? From: Gary Aman My flying friends refuse to trust oil injection from 503's to 582's.I was t he only one in the group to stick with it from new purchase to sale of the FS2. I flew over 750 hrs with absolutely NO problems,checking the rings for free movement every 150 hrs,checking the bore and skirts for issues as wel l.At 450 hrs I pulled the heads and cylinders to de-carbon the top ring lan ds which showed carbon instead of oil when pushing on the ring through the exhaust port with a popcicle stick during inspection.I even used 100LL for the first 100 hrs or so because it was so handy at the airport.New plugs e very 25 hrs.I loved that engine and I could find no fault with the factory engineers at Rotax who designed the injection system.Used Pennsoil for airc ooled from the start. G.Aman FS2 503 DCDI 750hrs MK3 Jabiru 2200A 760 hrs ----Original Message----- From: b young Sent: Thu, Sep 27, 2012 11:57 pm Subject: Re: Kolb-List: oil usage?? I guess I don=99t understand =9Chigher ratio at some throttle settings=9D seems that the oil injector has an actuator that is l inked to/with the throttle....when you are at idle, there is only a small a mount of oil being injected,,,, when you are at WOT the oil injector is pumping more oil,,, but the ratio of oil to gas should be constant. mor e throttle =more gas and more oil less throttle=less gas and less oi l....but both should be a constant mix..... the only experience I have ha d with oil injection was with a snowmobile.... when the injector failed fo r the second time,,,,, I removed it and went to pre mix. boyd young mkiii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That`s the ratio I got, when I did the math. (96/1) Seems a little lean on oil to me. I took my oil injector off my 503, so I could install an electri c starter. I premix 50/1, so I`m not sure if an average of 96/1 is good or not. As Herb said the amount of oil injected varies with RPM. Still that mi ght not be enough oil. In order to average 96/1 it has to be running at an even higher ratio at some throttle settings. That would make me nervous. L anny FSII ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:09:41 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb Mark III Classic for Sale From: "zeus627" My Mark III Classic is still for sale. I've reduced the price on it and hoping to sell it before winter. It's a super nice plane at a very reasonable price. I have more pictures available. My ad from Barnstormers.com is below. I would be happy to answer any questions. KOLB MARK III CLASSIC $12,900 2003 Kolb Mark III Classic for sale. Registered E-LSA, N-numbered. 78 hrs. TT airframe & eng. Rotax 618 eng., 75 hp. Kiev 3-blade comp. prop. VFR panel w/ airspd., alt., EGT, hobbs, compass, temp. Lowrance GPS, Vertex 220 radio. ELT, strobe/nav lights. Dual controls, hyd. heel brakes. Enclosed w/rear cargo area. Pilot 2-pl. int., 2 Flightcomm headsets. Folding wings. Trailerable. Nice covering and paint. 10-gal. fuel. Construction plans and manuals inc. Extra parts. Great LSA plane. Flown regularly. $12,900. Contact Brad Zearfoss, Owner - Plane is located at Somerset County Airport (2G9) PA USA Telephone: 814-442-4368 or email: brad@mykcwireless.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384139#384139 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0890_150.jpg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:56:28 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New Blog entry From: Martin Koxxy Beautiful, Larry! Video worked well, excellent quality. And the soundtrack made it even more enjoyable. Inhospitable terrain, alright. Do you fly with a ballistic chute? How many seconds would you have had to pull the trigger? Martin Beaverton, OR On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote: > I flew yesterday morning to the Jordan Craters Lava Flow. I had flown > there before we moved here and wanted to get some videos of the area. It is > an area of very nasty places to not go down in, and while my engine and > plane did not let me down, it has been a trial getting it so that you could > see it. I am not sure if it will run all the way through or not. Please be > kind enough to tell me if it does not. > > http://highdesertflier.blogspot.com/ > > The password is owyheeflyer > > Larry > > -- > *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email > address before sending.* > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:10:05 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New Blog entry From: Larry Cottrell I do not have a ballistic chute. Sometimes "you pays your money and take your chances". I rarely fly high enough for a chute to be effective. Do not archive Larry On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Martin Koxxy wrote: > Beautiful, Larry! Video worked well, excellent quality. And the soundtrack > made it even more enjoyable. > > Inhospitable terrain, alright. Do you fly with a ballistic chute? How many > seconds would you have had to pull the trigger? > > Martin > Beaverton, OR > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote: > >> I flew yesterday morning to the Jordan Craters Lava Flow. I had flown >> there before we moved here and wanted to get some videos of the area. It is >> an area of very nasty places to not go down in, and while my engine and >> plane did not let me down, it has been a trial getting it so that you could >> see it. I am not sure if it will run all the way through or not. Please be >> kind enough to tell me if it does not. >> >> http://highdesertflier.blogspot.com/ >> >> The password is owyheeflyer >> >> Larry >> >> -- >> *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email >> address before sending.* >> >> * >> >> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> * >> >> > * > > * > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:40:20 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: kolbster ages From: Robert Laird When I re-posted the "Kolbster Ages" chart about 10 days ago, it apparently prompted a lot of people to fill out the form... And perhaps some filled it out the first time, too! Oh well. It's far from scientific, but I just thought it would be interesting. So, tallying up the new information, here is what it looks like now: [image: Inline image 1] If you're more a numbers person than visual, here's the breakdown: [image: Inline image 2] I think that there is whatcha call a bell curve. Glad to know us Kolbsters conform so well! ;-) -- Robert ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:45:58 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: oil usage?? From: Richard Girard All, When discussing the advantages of oil injection over premixing at the last Rotax class I went to, Eric said that the oil pump is a variable ratio pump. More oil goes in at low rpm, on the order of the 2% (50 to 1) that is recommended for premixing, but at cruise RPM it drops to around 1.6% or 70 to 1. Somewhere I've seen a graph showing oil consumption versus fuel consumption that confirmed it but I'll be darned if I can find it right now .. Rick Girard do not archive On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Gary Aman wrote: > My flying friends refuse to trust oil injection from 503's to 582's.I was > the only one in the group to stick with it from new purchase to sale of t he > FS2. I flew over 750 hrs with absolutely NO problems,checking the rings f or > free movement every 150 hrs,checking the bore and skirts for issues as > well.At 450 hrs I pulled the heads and cylinders to de-carbon the top rin g > lands which showed carbon instead of oil when pushing on the ring throug h > the exhaust port with a popcicle stick during inspection.I even used 100L Lfor the first 100 hrs or so because it was so handy at the airport.New > plugs every 25 hrs.I loved that engine and I could find no fault with the > factory engineers at Rotax who designed the injection system.Used Pennsoi l > for aircooled from the start. > G.Aman FS2 503 DCDI 750hrs MK3 Jabiru 2200A 760 hrs > > ----Original Message----- > From: b young > To: kolb-list > Sent: Thu, Sep 27, 2012 11:57 pm > > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: oil usage?? > > I guess I don=92t understand =93higher ratio at some throttle > settings=94 seems that the oil injector has an actuator that is linke d > to/with the throttle....when you are at idle, there is only a small amoun t > of oil being injected,,,, when you are at WOT the oil injector is > pumping more oil,,, but the ratio of oil to gas should be constant. > more throttle =more gas and more oil less throttle=less gas and le ss > oil....but both should be a constant mix..... the only experience I hav e > had with oil injection was with a snowmobile.... when the injector faile d > for the second time,,,,, I removed it and went to pre mix. > > boyd young > mkiii > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > That`s the ratio I got, when I did the math. (96/1) Seems a little lean > on oil to me. I took my oil injector off my 503, so I could install an > electric starter. I premix 50/1, so I`m not sure if an average of 96/1 is > good or not. As Herb said the amount of oil injected varies with RPM. Sti ll > that might not be enough oil. In order to average 96/1 it has to be runni ng > at an even higher ratio at some throttle settings. That would make me > nervous. 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