---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 10/06/12: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:20 AM - Re: Re: The spot that doesn't move (Pat Ladd) 2. 09:00 AM - Re: Re: The spot that doesn't move (David Peters) 3. 10:25 AM - Re: Re: The spot that doesn't move (Rick Neilsen) 4. 10:37 AM - Re: Re: The spot that doesn't move (David Peters) 5. 10:53 AM - Re: Re: The spot that doesn't move (Larry Cottrell) 6. 11:05 AM - Re: Re: The spot that doesn't move (Rick Neilsen) 7. 11:09 AM - Re: Re: The spot that doesn't move (Jack B. Hart) 8. 01:02 PM - Re: tail wheel compression springs? (Rick Neilsen) 9. 03:06 PM - Re: Re: The spot that doesn't move (Dana Hague) 10. 03:28 PM - Re: Re: The spot that doesn't move (b young) 11. 04:50 PM - Reg. Canadian aircraft (sword181) 12. 06:08 PM - AT OMSI: RECORD-BREAKING SUPERSONIC SKYDIVE ON OCTOBER 8 (TheWanderingWench) 13. 08:25 PM - Re: Re: The spot that doesn't move (Rick Neilsen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:20:39 AM PST US From: "Pat Ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: The spot that doesn't move The object not moving is very common on a horizontal plane>> Ask any sailor. If you are moving and an object remain on a fixed bearing and nothing changes YOU WILL HIT IT. Same with the non moving spot on your windshield. If you do nothing (and don`t flare) that is where you will meet the ground. Pat ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:00:47 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: The spot that doesn't move From: David Peters Common in an airplane too; sorry, couldn't't resist. On Saturday, October 6, 2012, Pat Ladd wrote: > > The object not moving is very common on a horizontal plane>> > > Ask any sailor. > If you are moving and an object remain on a fixed bearing and nothing changes YOU WILL HIT IT. > > Same with the non moving spot on your windshield. If you do nothing (and don`t flare) that is where you will meet the ground. > > Pat > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:25:37 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: The spot that doesn't move From: Rick Neilsen That spot that doesn't move should be in the same place assuming the weight, speed, is close and the flap position is the same. So why not put a mark on the windscreen showing where you will be landing??? Would that work? Rick Neilsen Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 12:00 PM, David Peters wrote: > Common in an airplane too; sorry, couldn't't resist. > > > On Saturday, October 6, 2012, Pat Ladd wrote: > > > > The object not moving is very common on a horizontal plane>> > > > > Ask any sailor. > > If you are moving and an object remain on a fixed bearing and nothing > changes YOU WILL HIT IT. > > > > Same with the non moving spot on your windshield. If you do nothing (and > don`t flare) that is where you will meet the ground. > > > > Pat================ > mp; Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, > --> http://www.===== > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > == > > > > > > > > > > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:37:41 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: The spot that doesn't move From: David Peters A mark that looks like Kennedy Airport would be great! On Oct 6, 2012 10:27 AM, "Rick Neilsen" wrote: > That spot that doesn't move should be in the same place assuming the > weight, speed, is close and the flap position is the same. So why not put a > mark on the windscreen showing where you will be landing??? > > Would that work? > > Rick Neilsen > Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC > > On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 12:00 PM, David Peters wrote: > >> Common in an airplane too; sorry, couldn't't resist. >> >> >> On Saturday, October 6, 2012, Pat Ladd wrote: >> > >> > The object not moving is very common on a horizontal plane>> >> > >> > Ask any sailor. >> > If you are moving and an object remain on a fixed bearing and nothing >> changes YOU WILL HIT IT. >> > >> > Same with the non moving spot on your windshield. If you do nothing >> (and don`t flare) that is where you will meet the ground. >> > >> > Pat================ >> mp; Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, >> --> http://www.===== >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> == >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> * >> >> ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List* >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:53:58 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: The spot that doesn't move From: Larry Cottrell I did that on the side of my boat once, but for some reason they weren't there when I went fishing again. :-/ do not archive and wish that I could be anonymous Larry On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Rick Neilsen wrote: > That spot that doesn't move should be in the same place assuming the > weight, speed, is close and the flap position is the same. So why not put a > mark on the windscreen showing where you will be landing??? > > Would that work? > > Rick Neilsen > Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC > > On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 12:00 PM, David Peters wrote: > >> Common in an airplane too; sorry, couldn't't resist. >> >> >> On Saturday, October 6, 2012, Pat Ladd wrote: >> > >> > The object not moving is very common on a horizontal plane>> >> > >> > Ask any sailor. >> > If you are moving and an object remain on a fixed bearing and nothing >> changes YOU WILL HIT IT. >> > >> > Same with the non moving spot on your windshield. If you do nothing >> (and don`t flare) that is where you will meet the ground. >> > >> > Pat================ >> mp; Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, >> --> http://www.===== >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> == >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> * >> >> ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List* >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> > * > > * > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:05:06 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: The spot that doesn't move From: Rick Neilsen OK very funny. Our Kolbs have a very wide field of view. When flying GA planes I could picture a few inches or so above the dash and get close to where we were going to land but we really don't have nor do we want that obstruction. But a mark might be useful. Rick Neilsen On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote: > I did that on the side of my boat once, but for some reason they weren't > there when I went fishing again. :-/ > > do not archive and wish that I could be anonymous > Larry > > On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Rick Neilsen wrote: > >> That spot that doesn't move should be in the same place assuming the >> weight, speed, is close and the flap position is the same. So why not put a >> mark on the windscreen showing where you will be landing??? >> >> Would that work? >> >> Rick Neilsen >> Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC >> >> On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 12:00 PM, David Peters wrote: >> >>> Common in an airplane too; sorry, couldn't't resist. >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, October 6, 2012, Pat Ladd wrote: >>> > >>> > The object not moving is very common on a horizontal plane>> >>> > >>> > Ask any sailor. >>> > If you are moving and an object remain on a fixed bearing and nothing >>> changes YOU WILL HIT IT. >>> > >>> > Same with the non moving spot on your windshield. If you do nothing >>> (and don`t flare) that is where you will meet the ground. >>> > >>> > Pat================ >>> mp; Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, >>> --> http://www.===== >>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>> == >>> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> * >>> >>> ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List* >>> tp://forums.matronics.com >>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> >>> >> * >> >> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> * >> >> > > > -- > *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email > address before sending.* > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:09:35 AM PST US From: "Jack B. Hart" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: The spot that doesn't move From: Rick Neilsen > >That spot that doesn't move should be in the same place assuming the weight, speed, is close and the flap position is the same. So why not put a mark on the windscreen showing where you will be landing??? > Rick, When I started flying sailplanes, I had difficulty finding the spot. I did not know where to look. Part of the problem was that I was used to flying in tractor aircraft with high instrument panels that did not let you look down over the nose. With the low instrument panels and forward reaching canopy on the sailplane, one had very good forward and downward view over the nose. It took a while to find the spot relative to the top of the low instrument panel or forward edge of the canopy. I found I was spending too much time finding the spot. I solved the problem by doing what you suggest. I placed a horizontal strip of black electricians tape forward on the inside of the canopy just below where I thought the spot would appear. I flew this way for several months, and then I found I didn't need it any more. It just takes some self training and practice. When I first started flying the FireFly to out lying airports, I would cruise at 2,500 to 3,000 feet agl. I could not find the airports. There was too much too look at. But the gps said, the airport was there. I would start to circle at altitude until I could find it. I discovered I was too close when I started to look for the airports. I was looking beyond them. Later on, I had little trouble seeing them from miles out. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:02:49 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: tail wheel compression springs? From: Rick Neilsen Larry This is what I use. Aircraft Spruce - Springs Only ................. P/N 06-15700 .............Ea $7.35 Rick Neilsen On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote: > Does any body know what size compression springs work best on on Kolbs? > Larry > > -- > *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email > address before sending.* > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:06:48 PM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: The spot that doesn't move At 01:24 PM 10/6/2012, Rick Neilsen wrote: >That spot that doesn't move should be in the same place assuming the >weight, speed, is close and the flap position is the same. So why not put >a mark on the windscreen showing where you will be landing??? > >Would that work? No, because it will vary (quite significantly) depending on the wind. -Dana -- This is a test of the emergency tagline system. Were this an actual tagline, you would see amusing mottos, disclaimers, a zillion net addresses, or edifying philisophical statements. This is only a test. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:28:40 PM PST US From: "b young" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: The spot that doesn't move how do you adjust the tape for differing winds. 5, 10 mph..12 or 14????. now is that straight down the runway,,, cross wind from the left or the right.. did anyone say quartering tail wind, by the time we get done the piece of tape will be a sheet of paper with peep holes punched through out it each marked with a different wind configuration, glide speed, wing loading. we might as well be flying some tractor we cant see out of. OR you could just carry a flat rock in your shirt pocket,,,,,, open the door and toss it out and follow it down. just make sure it is a brightly colored rock so you can see it all the way to the ground. with too much tape on the window you may just for get to fly the plane,,, as you try and remember what each mark on the tape is for. the reality of the situation is,,,, by the time you figure out where to put the tape, you should not need it any more. LOL boyd young please!!! do not archive >>>>>> That spot that doesn't move should be in the same place assuming the weight, speed, is close and the flap position is the same. So why not put a mark on the windscreen showing where you will be landing??? Would that work? Rick Neilsen Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:50:09 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Reg. Canadian aircraft From: "sword181" Can anyone tell me what kind of hassle it is to register an aircraft in the US that you purchase in Canada? -------- It is never to late for a joyous childhood. 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The mission aims to:=0A=C2-=0AAid development of a new generation of space suits, inc luding enhanced mobility and visual clarity, and parachute systems that lea d to passenger crew exits from space=0AAid development of protocols for exp osure to high altitude/high acceleration=0AAid exploration of the effects o f supersonic acceleration and subsequent deceleration on the human body, in cluding development of the latest innovations in parachute systems=0A=C2- =0AImages and additional info are also located here:=C2-http://www.redbul lstratos.com/ ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:25:27 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: The spot that doesn't move From: Rick Neilsen You guys aren't flying enough. Talk about a pain in the... I flew my VW powered MKIIIC out of a 1400 ft (about 900 usable) one way strip for fifteen years. I have landed in from 20 MPH head wind to 20 MPH tail wind. When flying a bunch I could pick out the touch down point within a few seconds after turning final. There were a few times when tired or not focused I misjudged and things got tense. This with a strip that didn't allow me a go around if I waited too long. With a line horizontal line drawn across the wind screen indicating the normal touch down point I would have been able to much more quickly adjust to the conditions. If the threshold of my strip is moving above the reference line then add power. If it is moving under cut power more, add flaps and or go around before it is too late. I'm currently flying out a 3200' GA strip so my short field landing skills aren't as good as they were. If I lost power and had to land in a small clearing in the woods a horizontal reference line on my wind screen might be a life saver. My point was and still is in a emergency hope you have a plan and may be a reference line to get to a safe landing point. If I'm flying under 3000 AGL I'm not likely going to grab a calculator and GPS to find a landing site. Do as you wish. As all ways worth what you paid for it. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 6:28 PM, b young wrote: > how do you adjust the tape for differing winds. 5, 10 mph..12 or > 14????. now is that straight down the runway,,, cross wind from the left > or the right.. did anyone say quartering tail wind, by the time we get > done the piece of tape will be a sheet of paper with peep holes punched > through out it each marked with a different wind configuration, glide > speed, wing loading. we might as well be flying some tractor we cant see > out of. OR you could just carry a flat rock in your shirt pocket,,,,,, > open the door and toss it out and follow it down. just make sure it is a > brightly colored rock so you can see it all the way to the ground. with > too much tape on the window you may just for get to fly the plane,,, as > you try and remember what each mark on the tape is for. the reality of the > situation is,,,, by the time you figure out where to put the tape, you > should not need it any more. > LOL > boyd young > please!!! do not archive > > >>>>>> > That spot that doesn't move should be in the same place assuming the > weight, speed, is close and the flap position is the same. So why not put a > mark on the windscreen showing where you will be landing??? > > Would that work? > > Rick Neilsen > Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC > > ** > > * > > > * > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.