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1. 05:19 AM - Re: 'Tis the Season' Reminder (Thom Riddle)
2. 07:48 AM - Re: Re: 'Tis the Season' Reminder (b young)
3. 09:47 AM - Firestar II copit photos... (Nick Cassara)
4. 10:42 AM - Re: Re: 'Tis the Season' Reminder (Gerry Visel)
5. 12:44 PM - Re: Re: 'Tis the Season' Reminder (Gary Aman)
6. 01:03 PM - Re: Re: 'Tis the Season' Reminder (Gary Aman)
7. 02:15 PM - Visiting Oregon.. (Nick Cassara)
8. 03:25 PM - Re: CARB HEAT// Re: 'Tis the Season' Reminder (Dan)
9. 08:29 PM - Re: Firestar II copit photos... (EricS)
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| Subject: | Re: 'Tis the Season' Reminder |
Gary,
Unless your Jab2200 is a very very early one, the Bing carb on it is a 94 (40mm).
They used a 64 model (36mm) for only a short while and it didn't take them
very long to determine it was not big enough. However, they are of similar design
and function much the same way,
I've not had any carb icing in my Slingshot with Jab2200 but in the 11 years I've
been flying Rotax 912 engines, I've had two carb ice incidents. Detecting it
early both times, I was able to get rid of it by cycling the throttle idle to
WOT, back and forth a couple times. In both cases it was in warm weather with
high humidity.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Diamond Katana DA20-A1
Rotax 912 F3
Don't worry about old age... it doesn't last very long.
- Anonymous
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| Subject: | Re: 'Tis the Season' Reminder |
I had a similar episode last spring... about 60 65 deg f humidity was up
,high but not extremely high, I had been out about an hour and was
coming back into the pattern when I pulled the throttle back, I heard some
funny/different noises,,, cycled the throttle a couple of times, a bit more
noise, and landed promptly. when I shut the engine down I hurried out and
could see a very thin film of ice on the outside of the carb.
I have a friend that moved here from florida,,, and he said on a humid day
after a rain, carb ice was routine on his 912. he had to add a carb
heater or limit his flying days. he was flying a plane in tractor
configuration.
boyd young
mkiii 912 utah
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Gary,
I've not had any carb icing in my Slingshot with Jab2200 but in the 11 years
I've been flying Rotax 912 engines, I've had two carb ice incidents.
Detecting it early both times, I was able to get rid of it by cycling the
throttle idle to WOT, back and forth a couple times. In both cases it was in
warm weather with high humidity.
--------
Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
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| Subject: | Firestar II copit photos... |
Hello Kolbers,
Winter is closing in, here in the far north, and it is time to get busy
building again. I am trying to complete the kit that has the Kolbra
"prototype fuselage." For my conversation with Jim Hauck, who built the
prototype, what I have is basically a Firestar III.
I have a pile of instruments, and gear that needs to find a home on the
panel and in the front.
If you have a Firestar and like the way you have set things up, please post
a photo so that I can benefit from your knowledge.
Thanks, for the help!
Nick Cassara
Palmer, Ak
N607AK
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| Subject: | Re: 'Tis the Season' Reminder |
Is there a carb heat mod for the 503? --Gerry
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 9:48 AM, b young <byoungplumbing@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I had a similar episode last spring... about 60 65 deg f humidity was
> up ,high but not extremely high, I had been out about an hour and was
> coming back into the pattern when I pulled the throttle back, I heard some
> funny/different noises,,, cycled the throttle a couple of times, a bit
> more noise, and landed promptly. when I shut the engine down I hurried
> out and could see a very thin film of ice on the outside of the carb.
> I have a friend that moved here from florida,,, and he said on a humid day
> after a rain, carb ice was routine on his 912. he had to add a carb
> heater or limit his flying days. he was flying a plane in tractor
> configuration.
>
> boyd young
> mkiii 912 utah
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| Subject: | Re: 'Tis the Season' Reminder |
It must be a 94.Don't see any identification on the casting,just looked lik
e a 64.
G.Aman
-----Original Message-----
From: Thom Riddle <riddletr@gmail.com>
Sent: Fri, Oct 26, 2012 8:19 am
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: 'Tis the Season' Reminder
Gary,
Unless your Jab2200 is a very very early one, the Bing carb on it is a 94
(40mm). They used a 64 model (36mm) for only a short while and it didn't ta
ke
them very long to determine it was not big enough. However, they are of sim
ilar
design and function much the same way,
I've not had any carb icing in my Slingshot with Jab2200 but in the 11 year
s
I've been flying Rotax 912 engines, I've had two carb ice incidents. Detect
ing
it early both times, I was able to get rid of it by cycling the throttle id
le to
WOT, back and forth a couple times. In both cases it was in warm weather wi
th
high humidity.
--------
Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Diamond Katana DA20-A1
Rotax 912 F3
Don't worry about old age... it doesn't last very long.
- Anonymous
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| Subject: | Re: 'Tis the Season' Reminder |
The ice will build at cruise power settings,and the power loss is so gradua
l that you may not catch it.But you WILL notice when the ice breaks loose a
nd the engine gags on it for a couple of revolutions.It gets me at warm up
speeds,1100rpm,and will almost die without heat.If you go to idle it will q
uit.It must ice over those small ports just aft of the throttle plate as we
ll.You've seen some pictures of the fog we get up here,great flying above t
he broken stuff but icing down low.
G.A.
-----Original Message-----
From: b young <byoungplumbing@gmail.com>
Sent: Fri, Oct 26, 2012 10:48 am
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: 'Tis the Season' Reminder
I had a similar episode last spring... about 60 65 deg f humidity was u
p
,high but not extremely high, I had been out about an hour and was
coming back into the pattern when I pulled the throttle back, I heard some
funny/different noises,,, cycled the throttle a couple of times, a bit mor
e
noise, and landed promptly. when I shut the engine down I hurried out an
d
could see a very thin film of ice on the outside of the carb.
I have a friend that moved here from florida,,, and he said on a humid day
after a rain, carb ice was routine on his 912. he had to add a carb
heater or limit his flying days. he was flying a plane in tractor
configuration.
boyd young
mkiii 912 utah
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Gary,
I've not had any carb icing in my Slingshot with Jab2200 but in the 11 year
s
I've been flying Rotax 912 engines, I've had two carb ice incidents.
Detecting it early both times, I was able to get rid of it by cycling the
throttle idle to WOT, back and forth a couple times. In both cases it was i
n
warm weather with high humidity.
--------
Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
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| Subject: | Visiting Oregon.. |
Hello Oregon Kolb flyers,
I will be visiting in Oregon over the Holidays. Around Xmas I will be in the
Medford area, and in Portland around New Years. If you live in either of
these areas and are interested in showing for your Kolb, I would enjoy
meeting you and your plane.
Please Email me directly off list.
Thanks,
Nick Cassara
Palmer, Alaska
L.E. Please do not archive this post
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| Subject: | Re: : Kolb-List:CARB HEAT// Re: 'Tis the Season' Reminder |
Yes, and simple.http://legacy.rotax-owner.com/si_tb_info/serviceinfo/4ul94.
pdf
--- On Fri, 10/26/12, Gerry Visel <gcvisel@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Gerry Visel <gcvisel@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: 'Tis the Season' Reminder
-- Is there a carb heat mod for the 503? --Gerry
=0AOn Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 9:48 AM, b young <byoungplumbing@gmail.com> wrot
e:
=0A
I had a similar episode -last spring... - about 60 65 deg f -humidity
was up ,high but not extremely high, - - -I had been out about an ho
ur and was coming back into the pattern when I pulled the throttle back, I
heard some funny/different noises,,, -cycled the throttle a couple of tim
es, a bit more noise, -and landed promptly. - when I shut the engine do
wn I hurried out and could see a very thin film of ice on the outside of th
e carb.
=0AI have a friend that moved here from florida,,, and he said on a humid d
ay after a rain, carb ice was routine on his 912. - he had to -add a ca
rb heater or limit his flying days. he was flying a plane in tractor config
uration.
=0A
boyd young
========================0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II copit photos... |
Hi Nick,
I visited your area 4 years ago in an RV with my Dad towing my amphib. trike and
we flew over the Knik glacier from a nearby ROUGH bush flying field. The one
thing that sticks with you after flying in Alaska and seeing so many cool looking
bush planes is all those BIG tires. I love to land out and I put BIG tires
on my trike as soon as I returned to Texas.
When I bought my Kold Firestar II a few months back, it had 18" tundra tires on
it that were worn out and needed replacing. I bought the largest tires I could
afford - 21" tires for $100 each plus $40 BIG tubes to go inside them. The
next step up is real 26" Alaska Bushwheels for $1,000 each. I can land my Kolb
on the roughest fields with these BIG marshmallow tires as long as my LOW wingtips
on my "high" wing won't scrape the bushes (or grader terraces in some
cases on gravel roads).
My recommendation for any airplane flying at Kolb Firestar speeds is to get the
BIGGEST tires you can afford. Here's a pic of the shadow of my Kolb flying over
one of my crosswind practice areas. I love it because it highlights those
BIG tires!
Eric
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