---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 10/27/12: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 10:27 AM - Re: Firestar II copit photos... (Larry Cottrell) 2. 10:29 AM - oops! (Larry Cottrell) 3. 10:47 AM - Re: Firestar II copit photos... (Thom Riddle) 4. 04:23 PM - Re: 'Tis the Season' Reminder (Jack B. Hart) 5. 08:37 PM - Re: Re: 'Tis the Season' Reminder (Brad Nation) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:27:06 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar II copit photos... From: Larry Cottrell Here is my panel. I didn't have enough room to put the two fuel gages that I used before, so the alum side panel supplied a spot for them. The only guy with a Kolb in the Medford area is Roger Hankins, who has a KXP. I am not sure if he monitors the list, so if you don't hear from him before you get there, email me and I will give you his phone number. I am sorry that I live about 8 hours from there. Larry On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Nick Cassara wrote: > Hello Kolbers,**** > > ** ** > > Winter is closing in, here in the far north, and it is time to get busy > building again. I am trying to complete the kit that has the Kolbra > =93prototype fuselage.=94 For my conversation with Jim Hauck, who built t he > prototype, what I have is basically a Firestar III.**** > > ** ** > > I have a pile of instruments, and gear that needs to find a home on the > panel and in the front.**** > > ** ** > > If you have a Firestar and like the way you have set things up, please > post a photo so that I can benefit from your knowledge. **** > > ** ** > > Thanks, for the help!**** > > ** ** > > Nick Cassara**** > > Palmer, Ak**** > > ** ** > > N607AK**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:29:02 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: oops! From: Larry Cottrell Sorry about inflicting my reply to Nick on the group. Getting forgetful I guess. :-/ Larry -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.* ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:47:03 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Firestar II copit photos... From: "Thom Riddle" Nick, Attached is a shot of my Slingshot panel, same size as Firestar panel. All engine and flight parameters are monitored with the EIS, except for ASI. I don't trust electronics for my airspeed indication. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Diamond Katana DA20-A1 Rotax 912 F3 Don't worry about old age... it doesn't last very long. - Anonymous Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=386120#386120 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0533_smaller_193.jpeg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:23:57 PM PST US From: "Jack B. Hart" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 'Tis the Season' Reminder From: Phil > I wonder what risks a diaphragm carb suffers with carb ice? ( I.e. a Tillotson ) At least there's no slide to stick. Perhaps just reduced air intake, resulting in higher oil-to-fuel ratio? > Assuming the whole throat doesn't fill up with ice, does that mean fouled plugs are the biggest problem? > Phil, >From the few flights I have with the MZ 34 with a Tillitson carburetor, I found that it will ice up. Always I make a high approach so that if the engine quits I can always make the field. This means that one must close the throttle and spill altitude and results in a cold engine when one reaches the point of round out and flare. After roll out the engine starts easily. Since I use mixed fuel, there is no reason to expect fouled plugs. To get around this icing up problem, I searched the web and found some small bolt heater that is used on KTM motorcycle engine carburetors. I drilled the Tillotson carburetor and mounted one. I have not had a chance, as yet, to check it out but you can see how it was done at the bottom of: http://jackbhart.com/firefly/firefly153.html Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:37:05 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: 'Tis the Season' Reminder From: Brad Nation When I was flying 172s, the SOP was to turn on carb heat when entering the pattern and pulling the throttle back as there was a greater tendency for carb icing. Sent from my iPad Brad On Oct 26, 2012, at 8:48, "b young" wrote: > > I had a similar episode last spring... about 60 65 deg f humidity was up ,high but not extremely high, I had been out about an hour and was coming back into the pattern when I pulled the throttle back, I heard some funny/different noises,,, cycled the throttle a couple of times, a bit more noise, and landed promptly. when I shut the engine down I hurried out and could see a very thin film of ice on the outside of the carb. > I have a friend that moved here from florida,,, and he said on a humid day after a rain, carb ice was routine on his 912. he had to add a carb heater or limit his flying days. he was flying a plane in tractor configuration. > > boyd young > mkiii 912 utah > > Gary, > I've not had any carb icing in my Slingshot with Jab2200 but in the 11 years I've been flying Rotax 912 engines, I've had two carb ice incidents. Detecting it early both times, I was able to get rid of it by cycling the throttle idle to WOT, back and forth a couple times. In both cases it was in warm weather with high humidity. > > -------- > Thom Riddle > Buffalo, NY (9G0) > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.