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1. 05:43 AM - Jabiru TBI (Colin Hudson)
2. 10:03 AM - Question about Airframe lifespan...inspection ports? (Nick Cassara)
3. 12:10 PM - Re: Question about Airframe lifespan...inspection ports? (John Hauck)
4. 05:34 PM - Re: Question about Airframe lifespan...inspection ports? (Beauford)
5. 06:18 PM - Re: Question about Airframe lifespan...inspection ports? (Richard Girard)
6. 07:05 PM - Re: Question about Airframe lifespan...inspection ports? (Brad Nation)
7. 07:57 PM - Re: Question about Airframe lifespan...inspection ports? (John Hauck)
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In an effort to curb carb heat problems with the Bing carburetor I've
purchased a Rotec TBI injector for my 2200 Jabiru. Before I try to
work out all the cable and air filter problems, I was wondering if
anyone has installed this TBI on their Jabiru? Pictures would really
help and a pusher configuration would be even better as my Jabiru is
installed on a Kolb Mark III X-tra.
Thanks - Colin Hudson
Belton TX
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| Subject: | Question about Airframe lifespan...inspection ports? |
Hello Kolbers,
Your question is not "silly" Wesley!
The great thing about the Kolb list is that there are no "silly" questions;
everyone on the list has a different background and bring a variety of
experiences to the list. So ask away!
Two days ago, the North American distributor of Oratex fabric asked me what
I was planning on coating my wings frames with before covering them?
My memory is that almost no one treats the aluminum with anything. I do have
a recollection of the story of Kolb once coated a frame with Zinc chromate
for a fellow who lived on the salt water of Chesapeake bay and intended to
operate on floats.
My question for the list how many inspection ports do folks put in their
wings?
Thanks,
Nick Cassara
Palmer, AK
607AK
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| Subject: | Question about Airframe lifespan...inspection ports? |
My question for the list how many inspection ports do folks put in their
wings?
Thanks,
Nick Cassara
Nick/Kolbers:
I use epoxy chromate primer on all the 4130 parts and fuselage. Nothing on
the aluminum unless I am going to finish paint, then apply epoxy chromate
primer.
Put as many inspection rings on your wings, or any other place for that
matter, that you think you will "ever" need in the future. All you have to
do is process the inspection rings during covering and painting. If and
when you ever need to get inside, simply cut out the inside of the ring,
then place the pre-painted inspection covers on them.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Question about Airframe lifespan...inspection ports? |
Brother Cassara:
Not sure what the majority of folks do, but I put one ring on each side of
the spar at the strut attachment fitting, and one
at the root to look at the drag strut attachment to the wing butt rib. I
open and use all three at each annual.
No reason I can see that a man could not put more on the wing if desired.
Guess it depends on how pessimistic one
wants to be.
Worth what ye paid fer it.
Beauford
FF-076
N173BW
Brandon, FL
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Nick Cassara
Subject: Kolb-List: Question about Airframe lifespan...inspection ports?
My question for the list how many inspection ports do folks put in their
wings?
Thanks,
Nick Cassara
Palmer, AK
607AK
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| Subject: | Re: Question about Airframe lifespan...inspection ports? |
If you are planning on using the Poly Fiber series of chemicals, zinc
chromate and any other one part primer will NOT work. The solvents in the
Poly Fiber will eat through it and the bond of the fabric to the air frame
weakened. The only approved primer is two part epoxy and if you use any
other brand than Poly Fiber you should check with a factory rep to find out
if it will withstand MEK. I used Tran Star epoxy primer sold by O'Reilly's
Auto Parts.
Rick Girard
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Beauford <beauford173@tampabay.rr.com>wrot
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> Not sure what the majority of folks do, but I put one ring on each side o
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> the spar at the strut attachment fitting, and one****
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> at the root to look at the drag strut attachment to the wing butt rib. I
> open and use all three at each annual.****
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> No reason I can see that a man could not put more on the wing if desired.
> Guess it depends on how pessimistic one****
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> Worth what ye paid fer it=85****
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> Beauford****
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> N173BW****
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> Brandon, FL****
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> *From:* owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Nick Cassara
> *Subject:* Kolb-List: Question about Airframe lifespan...inspection ports
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> My question for the list how many inspection ports do folks put in their
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Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| Subject: | Re: Question about Airframe lifespan...inspection ports? |
I don't have a Kolb yet, so I don't quite understand how an inspection ring w
orks. A picture is worth a thousand words.
Sent from my iPad
Brad
On Dec 19, 2012, at 13:09, "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
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> My question for the list how many inspection ports do folks put in their w
ings?
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> Thanks,
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> Nick Cassara
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> Nick/Kolbers:
>
> I use epoxy chromate primer on all the 4130 parts and fuselage. Nothing o
n the aluminum unless I am going to finish paint, then apply epoxy chromate p
rimer.
>
> Put as many inspection rings on your wings, or any other place for that ma
tter, that you think you will "ever" need in the future. All you have to do
is process the inspection rings during covering and painting. If and when y
ou ever need to get inside, simply cut out the inside of the ring, then plac
e the pre-painted inspection covers on them.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Question about Airframe lifespan...inspection ports? |
I don't have a Kolb yet, so I don't quite understand how an inspection
ring works. A picture is worth a thousand words.
Brad
Brad/Kolbers:
The ring is a plastic reinforcement for the inspection hole covers.
Keeps from tearing the fabric. Gives the cover springs something to
hold on to keep them in place\.
Here's a bunch of questions and answers about inspection rings:
http://www.polyfiber.com/techquestions/inspectionrings/index.htm
Google this, "fabric aircraft inspection rings" and hit IMAGES. You'll
get a lot of photos of rings and how they are used.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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