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1. 07:20 AM - Re: Antioch, CA (alienwes)
2. 08:07 AM - Re: Antioch, CA (CaliPaul)
3. 08:16 AM - Re: Re: Antioch, CA (Rick Neilsen)
4. 08:27 AM - Re: Re: Antioch, CA (Robert Laird)
5. 09:19 AM - Re: Antioch, CA (alienwes)
6. 09:21 AM - Re: Re: Antioch, CA (Robert Laird)
7. 10:16 AM - Re: Re: Antioch, CA (Dana Hague)
8. 12:26 PM - Re: Re: Antioch, CA (Phil)
9. 01:26 PM - Re: Antioch, CA (alienwes)
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I found this video on the KOLB website. Shows how easy it is to fold the wings.
http://www.kolbaircraft.com/foldingwings.htm
He does it in 11 minutes and I am sure one could do it faster. Compared to unpacking
and laying out a PPC parachute wing I would say it is comparable. I have
read of some KOLB owners who are very happy to fold and unfold everytime. Some
of the steps are part of a a good preflight checklist as well.
Wes
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Wes,
That was the best video I've seen in showing the steps involved. I must have overlooked
it on their website when browsing it prior. Thanks for sharing.
Over the course of time I have heard folks say that it really takes them 30-60
minutes to fold or unfold the wings however based off of this I'm going to guess
it is more of the whole preflight or unloading off a trailer that maybe draws
out that time. I'm now pretty confident my 14yr old son and I could do this
by ourselves.
Paul
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Wes
Just trying to help. Sorry thought you were asking.
With the wings folded the tail is overloaded and the ground clearance is
very low. To move it home you need a long trailer and it needs to be loaded
on the trailer so maybe that is the rest of the story.
Check out the following web site
http://www.oh2fly.net/Main_trailer_kolb.htm for trailer ideas. Also
consider that most of these trailers require a big
tow vehicle.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 10:19 AM, alienwes <elliott.wesley@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> I found this video on the KOLB website. Shows how easy it is to fold the
> wings.
>
> http://www.kolbaircraft.com/foldingwings.htm
>
> He does it in 11 minutes and I am sure one could do it faster. Compared to
> unpacking and laying out a PPC parachute wing I would say it is comparable.
> I have read of some KOLB owners who are very happy to fold and unfold
> everytime. Some of the steps are part of a a good preflight checklist as
> well.
>
> Wes
>
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> Wesley Elliott
> Sport Pilot-PPC
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391140#391140
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I unfold then refold my MkIIIC (Rotax 912ULS) each time I fly. Back in
2007, I made this video (which isn't so much an instruction as it is a
demonstration):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGblkR8cdYE
It takes about 20 minutes to unfold, and about 25 minutes to refold my Kolb.
I have a trailer but only use it rarely for transportation. Normally, my
Kolb is rolled up into my large workshop, which only takes a couple of
minutes.
-- Robert
P.S. I'm thinking about selling it.
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 10:07 AM, CaliPaul <paulandgeorgia@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Wes,
>
> That was the best video I've seen in showing the steps involved. I must
> have overlooked it on their website when browsing it prior. Thanks for
> sharing.
>
> Over the course of time I have heard folks say that it really takes them
> 30-60 minutes to fold or unfold the wings however based off of this I'm
> going to guess it is more of the whole preflight or unloading off a trailer
> that maybe draws out that time. I'm now pretty confident my 14yr old son
> and I could do this by ourselves.
>
> Paul
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391144#391144
>
>
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Another cool video on folding/unfolding! The time lapsed fast speed was cool. Have
you posted your KOLB for sale yet or still unsure?
Wes
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Wesley Elliott
Sport Pilot-PPC
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It's not yet posted. I'm currently replacing the brake cylinders... when
that's done, I'll post it.
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 11:19 AM, alienwes <elliott.wesley@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Another cool video on folding/unfolding! The time lapsed fast speed was
> cool. Have you posted your KOLB for sale yet or still unsure?
>
> Wes
>
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> Wesley Elliott
> Sport Pilot-PPC
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391154#391154
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It takes me 10 minutes to unfold my Ultrastar, starting with unlocking the
trailer. I fold/unfold every time I fly. I keep the plane in the trailer
at the airport for the outdoor tiedown rate which is far cheaper than a
hangar, and tow it home only to work on it or for winter storage. Add a
few more minutes if it's tied down inside the trailer for towing. Here's
another video of the process:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMdPk6KjHDM&list=UU_nPeJ0w_803-4ZUNMg-hMg&index=9>
-Dana
At 11:07 AM 12/29/2012, CaliPaul wrote:
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>Wes,
>
>That was the best video I've seen in showing the steps involved. I must
>have overlooked it on their website when browsing it prior. Thanks for sharing.
>
>Over the course of time I have heard folks say that it really takes them
>30-60 minutes to fold or unfold the wings however based off of this I'm
>going to guess it is more of the whole preflight or unloading off a
>trailer that maybe draws out that time. I'm now pretty confident my 14yr
>old son and I could do this by ourselves.
--
If ignorance is bliss, why aren't there more happy people?
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It takes me exactly 2 mins and 51 secs to unfold, trailer, fold, and store
my Firefly- :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqSVwTGYO6o
I also live 0.40 miles from Dallas Bay Skypark (1a0) so I keep my Firefly a
t home in the carport. I have a very simple modified T-trailer.
Phil H
FF11-4-76
--- On Sat, 12/29/12, Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net> wrote:
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Antioch, CA
=0AIt takes me 10 minutes to unfold my Ultrastar, starting with=0Aunlocking
the trailer.- I fold/unfold every time I fly.- I keep=0Athe plane in t
he trailer at the airport for the outdoor tiedown rate=0Awhich is far cheap
er than a hangar, and tow it home only to work on it or=0Afor winter storag
e.- Add a few more minutes if it's tied down inside=0Athe trailer for tow
ing.- Here's another video of the=0Aprocess:
=0A<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMdPk6KjHDM&list=UU_nPeJ0w_803-4ZUN
Mg-hMg&index=9>
=0A-Dana
=0AAt 11:07 AM 12/29/2012, CaliPaul wrote:
=0AWes,
=0AThat was the best video I've seen in showing the steps involved. I must
=0Ahave overlooked it on their website when browsing it prior. Thanks for
=0Asharing.
=0AOver the course of time I have heard folks say that it really takes them
=0A30-60 minutes to fold or unfold the wings however based off of this I'm
=0Agoing to guess it is more of the whole preflight or unloading off a=0Atr
ailer that maybe draws out that time. I'm now pretty confident my 14yr=0Aol
d son and I could do this by ourselves.
=0A--=0AIf ignorance is bliss, why aren't there more happy=0Apeople?--
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====================0A=0A
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Phil, Dana,
Nice Vids! I noticed someone commented on youtube that they were jealous because
there MX was difficult to fold. I was initially researching the Quicksilver
line but was turned off by the lack of tranportability.
Wes
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Wesley Elliott
Sport Pilot-PPC
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