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1. 10:34 AM - Re: Confused about FAA Registration ... (Richard Girard)
2. 10:51 AM - Re: Confused about FAA Registration ... (Herb Gayheart)
3. 10:56 AM - Re: electric fuel pump (Richard Girard)
4. 02:40 PM - Re: Future of Kolb (alienwes)
5. 02:57 PM - Re: Re: Future of Kolb (John Hauck)
6. 03:07 PM - Re: Re: Future of Kolb (Herb Gayheart)
7. 03:27 PM - Re: Re: Future of Kolb (Malcolm Brubaker)
8. 04:31 PM - Re: Future of Kolb (alienwes)
9. 05:16 PM - Re: Confused about FAA Registration ... (alienwes)
10. 06:51 PM - Re: Re: Confused about FAA Registration ... (Richard Girard)
11. 07:24 PM - Re: Confused about FAA Registration ... (alienwes)
12. 08:07 PM - Re: Confused about FAA Registration ... (rsbiser)
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Subject: | Re: Confused about FAA Registration ... |
That will be a tough one. About the only option open to you is Experimental
Exhibition since you didn't build it and it can't go Experimental Amateur
Built.
Rick Girard
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 12:19 AM, b young <byoungplumbing@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> call your local Flight Standards District Offices (FSDO)
>
> BOYD YOUNG
>
> -----Original Message----- From: rsbiser
> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 9:48 PM
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kolb-List: Confused about FAA Registration ...
>
>
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> I recently bought a used Kolb Mark III Xtra. It already has an
> airworthiness certificate, but it has been de-registered by the former
> owner. In other words, he canceled the N Number and removed it from the
> aircraft.
>
> I have reserved a new N Number.
>
> Can anyone help me understand what registration process I must go through
> to register the plane with my newly reserved N Number? What forms must I
> submit, etc.?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott
>
> --------
> Scott Biser
>
> Cincinnati, Ohio
>
> Mark III Xtra
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> Read this topic online here:
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Subject: | Re: Confused about FAA Registration ... |
Buy some paperwork from a wreck?? Herb
At 12:33 PM 1/22/2013, you wrote:
>That will be a tough one. About the only option open to you is
>Experimental Exhibition since you didn't build it and it can't go
>Experimental Amateur Built.
>
>Rick Girard
>
>On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 12:19 AM, b young
><<mailto:byoungplumbing@gmail.com>byoungplumbing@gmail.com> wrote:
><<mailto:byoungplumbing@gmail.com>byoungplumbing@gmail.com>
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>call your local Flight Standards District Offices (FSDO)
>
>BOYD YOUNG
>
>-----Original Message----- From: rsbiser
>Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 9:48 PM
>To: <mailto:kolb-list@matronics.com>kolb-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kolb-List: Confused about FAA Registration ...
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><<mailto:Rsbiser@gmail.com>Rsbiser@gmail.com>
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>I recently bought a used Kolb Mark III Xtra. It already has an
>airworthiness certificate, but it has been de-registered by the
>former owner. In other words, he canceled the N Number and removed
>it from the aircraft.
>
>I have reserved a new N Number.
>
>Can anyone help me understand what registration process I must go
>through to register the plane with my newly reserved N Number? What
>forms must I submit, etc.?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Scott
>
>--------
>Scott Biser
>
>Cincinnati, Ohio
>
>Mark III Xtra
>
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>Read this topic online here:
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Subject: | Re: electric fuel pump |
Frank, In very tiny letters at the bottom of the picture it says "Copyright
Yahoo 2008 all rights reserved"
Rick Girard
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>wrote:
> John and I have been trying to find "Stationary" like that but so far have
> not been successful. I will keep trying.
> Larry
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> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net> wrote:
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>> At 11:52 AM 1/20/2013, frank goodnight wrote:
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>> Pat,--- Don't what you are talking about. I have sent NO
>> pictures to you or anyone else.
>> Please be sure of what you are talking about before flaming someone.
>> Thanks Frank
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>> do not archive
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>> Frank, it's a picture of a cartoon character blowing heart shaped
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>> time.
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Subject: | Re: Future of Kolb |
I really hope the company stays afloat in this tough economy. But I think asking
the company if they are doing good will result in a "yes" know matter what the
truth may be. My reason for wanting to know is two fold. The first reason is
to have parts available. The second is the value of a Kolb plane will remain
higher if the company is still around. These are important things to me as I
do my research.
Brubaker,
Not sure what you meant by your comment. I started skydiving in my early 20's and
moved on to PPG's and PPC's. Currently have a Sport Pilot License and want
to cross over to fixed wing. If I were to speculate I would say that I would continue
doing what I have been doing for the last 12 years.
Wes
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Sport Pilot-PPC
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Subject: | Re: Future of Kolb |
I really hope the company stays afloat in this tough economy. But I think
asking the company if they are doing good will result in a "yes" know matter
what the truth may be.
Wes
Wes/Kolbers:
I have been doing business with Kolb Aircraft for 29 years and three owners.
They have always been an outstanding organization, placing customer service
first.
I got it from a very reliable source that Kolb Aircraft is solvent. It is
one of the oldest ultralight/light plane companies in the world.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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Subject: | Re: Future of Kolb |
Remember also....The Kolb guys can do other things to fill dead
time... They take on covering and welding jobs for GA airplanes
also.. Excellent workmanship and at a better price than standard
shops.. Herb
At 04:57 PM 1/22/2013, you wrote:
>
>
>I really hope the company stays afloat in this tough economy. But I think
>asking the company if they are doing good will result in a "yes" know matter
>what the truth may be.
>
>Wes
>
>
>Wes/Kolbers:
>
>I have been doing business with Kolb Aircraft for 29 years and three owners.
>
>They have always been an outstanding organization, placing customer service
>first.
>
>I got it from a very reliable source that Kolb Aircraft is solvent. It is
>one of the oldest ultralight/light plane companies in the world.
>
>john h
>mkIII
>Titus, Alabama
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Future of Kolb |
- WESS what you meen then is you plan on flying PPC like you have for 12
years? =0A=0A=0AMalcolm & Jeanne Brubaker =0AMichigan Sport Pilot Repair
=0Ahttp://michigansportpilotrepair.com/ =0ALSRM-A, PPC, WS=0AGreat Sails -
Sailmaker =0Afor Ultralight & Light Sport=0A(989)513-3022 =0A- =0A=0A=0A
=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A From: alienwes <elliott.wesle
y@yahoo.com>=0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Tuesday, January 22, 20
13 5:40 PM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: Re: Future of Kolb=0A =0A--> Kolb-List me
ssage posted by: "alienwes" <elliott.wesley@yahoo.com>=0A=0AI really hope t
he company stays afloat in this tough economy. But I think asking the compa
ny if they are doing good will result in a "yes" know matter what the truth
may be. My reason for wanting to know is two fold. The first reason is to
have parts available. The second is the value of a Kolb plane will remain h
igher if the company is still around. These are important things to me as I
do my research. =0A=0ABrubaker, =0ANot sure what you meant by your comment
. I started skydiving in my early 20's and moved on to PPG's and PPC's. Cur
rently have a Sport Pilot License and want to cross over to fixed wing. If
I were to speculate I would say that I would continue doing what I have bee
n doing for the last 12 years. =0A=0AWes=0A=0A--------=0AWesley Elliott=0AS
port Pilot-PPC=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forum
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Subject: | Re: Future of Kolb |
Malcolm,
While I like the Low and Slow of PPC, I have been thinking alot about fixed wing.
I like the idea of an enclosed cockpit, more opportunities to fly than the
wind limitations of PPC, and greater distance abilities. I also like the folding
wings so you can transport like a PPC.
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Wesley Elliott
Sport Pilot-PPC
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Subject: | Re: Confused about FAA Registration ... |
Since you have an Airworthiness Certificate I think there is hope. The N-Number
is nothing more than a $5 fee to the FAA. The AIRWORTHINESS CERTIFICATE is the
one thats hard to get. I ran across this on another forum.
"So, if you don't re-register and you lose your N-number, you should still be able
to get your aircraft re-instated. You'd have to register it and, if more than
90 days past due, it would be registered under a new N-number. You would then
have to take your AWC and Ops Limits to the FSDO and have them re-issued under
the new N-number. It shouldn't be anymore complicated than getting new paperwork
after changing the N-number to a unique number (vanity number.) (I've
done that. It's not too much trouble to do."
Now, if it was the other way around and you only had an N number and NO Airworthiness
Cert, you would be screwed. Only route then would be Experimental Exhibition.
Congrats on your new plane as I am jealous,
Wes
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Wesley Elliott
Sport Pilot-PPC
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Subject: | Re: Confused about FAA Registration ... |
Wes, Most of what you say is true, unless your airplane is E-LSA and not
derived from an S-LSA airplane (like the RV-12) or demoted from an S-LSA
when the manufacturer went out of business. If you let your registration
expire on an E-LSA that was registered during the grandfathering phase of
starting up LSA there is no way to go back and re-register. Why, because
21.191 i(1) expired on 1-31-2008. The version of form 8088A that was used
during the grandfathering period to apply for registration expired then,
too. I'm sure the good folks at the Light Sport Branch of the FAA in
Oklahoma City are tired of confirming it, but you can call them and check
it out.
Rick Girard
do not archive
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 7:16 PM, alienwes <elliott.wesley@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Since you have an Airworthiness Certificate I think there is hope. The
> N-Number is nothing more than a $5 fee to the FAA. The AIRWORTHINESS
> CERTIFICATE is the one thats hard to get. I ran across this on another
> forum.
> "So, if you don't re-register and you lose your N-number, you should still
> be able to get your aircraft re-instated. You'd have to register it and, if
> more than 90 days past due, it would be registered under a new N-number.
> You would then have to take your AWC and Ops Limits to the FSDO and have
> them re-issued under the new N-number. It shouldn't be anymore complicated
> than getting new paperwork after changing the N-number to a unique number
> (vanity number.) (I've done that. It's not too much trouble to do."
>
> Now, if it was the other way around and you only had an N number and NO
> Airworthiness Cert, you would be screwed. Only route then would be
> Experimental Exhibition.
>
> Congrats on your new plane as I am jealous,
>
> Wes
>
> --------
> Wesley Elliott
> Sport Pilot-PPC
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392910#392910
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Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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Subject: | Re: Confused about FAA Registration ... |
Rick,
You are right on those E-LSA's that were given an Airworthiness Cert that expired.
If his Airworthiness Cert has an "unlimited" for the expiration which most
do, I still think he will be just fine. The only thing that he needs is an N
number. Not hard to get. I believe the ones that have an expiration on them had
until Jan 1 2010 to make them unlimited, and that date has passed also.
Wes
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Sport Pilot-PPC
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Subject: | Re: Confused about FAA Registration ... |
Hey Guys,
Thanks for the help.
Just to be clear, the Airworthiness Certificate is EAB issued in March of '07 with
an UNLIMITED Expiry Date.
It does include the old N Number which the previous owner transferred to another
airplane. I already have my new N Number reserved. So, it looks like I'll
just have to wrestle through the process with the FSDO.
Hope it won't be too painful.
Thanks,
Scott
--------
Scott Biser
Cincinnati, Ohio
Mark III Xtra
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