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1. 02:49 AM - Re: printing aircraft (Pat Ladd)
2. 04:06 AM - Re: Confused about FAA Registration ... (alienwes)
3. 04:10 AM - Re: Re: Confused about FAA Registration ... (Richard Girard)
4. 07:31 AM - Re: printing aircraft (Robert Laird)
5. 07:54 AM - Re: printing aircraft (Pat Ladd)
6. 08:06 AM - Re: printing aircraft (Robert Laird)
7. 08:13 AM - Too Cold To F fly (John Hauck)
8. 08:38 AM - Re: Re: Confused about FAA Registration ... (McCarthy Tom)
9. 01:17 PM - Sun N Fun 2013 (kolbaircraft)
10. 01:26 PM - Re: Sun N Fun 2013 (John Hauck)
11. 01:29 PM - Re: Future of Kolb (kolbaircraft)
12. 03:15 PM - Re: printing aircraft (chris davis)
13. 03:27 PM - Re: Sun N Fun 2013 (Herb Gayheart)
14. 03:32 PM - Re: printing aircraft (chris davis)
15. 03:41 PM - Re: Sun N Fun 2013 (Herb Gayheart)
16. 05:59 PM - Re: Sun N Fun 2013 (John Hauck)
17. 06:15 PM - Re: Sun N Fun 2013 (Herb Gayheart)
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| Subject: | Re: printing aircraft |
how much longer before an ultralight is printed>>
Hi,
probably not as long as you think. There has already been a car printed.
I have an app which enables a small object to be assembled from drawings
on the computer and if the result is sent to the company they will print
out in three dimensions whatever has been designed. Incredible.
When I mentioned this to my grandchildren they were unimpressed and told
me that they had a 3d Printer at school.
The world is shifting under our feet.
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Confused about FAA Registration ... |
Scott,
Please update us when you talk to the FSDO.
Forum: Did not want to come across as arguing on this forum. I really just want
to get along with all members and contribute and learn as much as I can.
Wes
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Wesley Elliott
Sport Pilot-PPC
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| Subject: | Re: Confused about FAA Registration ... |
Wes, It's a free country, you can think what you want, but the Light Sport
Branch is using the logic that registration is a requirement for issuing an
experimental Certificate of Airworthiness and if the registration expires,
since there is NO paperwork path available for re-registration, the CoA
then becomes void. I have tried to get the EAA, the AOPA, and the FAA legal
council in Washington DC to address this to no avail. That's the
interpretation and that's what happens. Again, I urge you to call the Light
Sport Branch and verify it for yourself, perhaps the interpretation has
changed.
Rick
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 9:24 PM, alienwes <elliott.wesley@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Rick,
> You are right on those E-LSA's that were given an Airworthiness Cert that
> expired. If his Airworthiness Cert has an "unlimited" for the expiration
> which most do, I still think he will be just fine. The only thing that he
> needs is an N number. Not hard to get. I believe the ones that have an
> expiration on them had until Jan 1 2010 to make them unlimited, and that
> date has passed also.
> Wes
>
> --------
> Wesley Elliott
> Sport Pilot-PPC
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392918#392918
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| Subject: | Re: printing aircraft |
I've no doubt that, right now, many of the components could be printed ....
e.g. ribs... (Some, probably not so much, e.g., sails.) But it would be
cool to have a 3D printer that, using a composite formula, would print the
whole thing, from bottom to top, excluding non-printable stuff like sails,
tires, etc.. I would think that, in theory, you could make something much,
much lighter, in sum, than the lightest (in sum) UL currently made by
conventional methods.
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 4:49 AM, Pat Ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> wrote:
> **
> how much longer before an ultralight is printed>>
>
> Hi,
> probably not as long as you think. There has already been a car printed.
> I have an app which enables a small object to be assembled from drawings
> on the computer and if the result is sent to the company they will print
> out in three dimensions whatever has been designed. Incredible.
>
> When I mentioned this to my grandchildren they were unimpressed and told
> me that they had a 3d Printer at school.
>
> The world is shifting under our feet.
>
> Pat
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: printing aircraft |
Robert,
what I find incredible is that it is possible to print a WORKING model..
I saw a guy on TV copy an adjustable spanner (What you call a wrench I
believe) and it featured a knurled nut to obtain the adjustment. At the
last moment someone asked for the nut to be a different colour, Sure
enough the finished copy not only was delivered with the nut in red and
the rest of the spanner in silver but the nut WORKED and the spanner
could be adjusted in the normal way.
Also on TV I saw a small model with a multiple rolling leg design.It
was 8/9 inches long and had a body about 4inches by 4.It looked like a
design for a moon explorer. It came straight from the 3D printer.It then
had a small fan attached. When the presenter blew on the fan it turned a
gear train which drove an axle to which the legs were attached and the
damn thing moved forward. There must have been 25 or 30 working joints
on this thing and they all flexed and hinged as if assembled from
separate pieces.This was STRAIGHT FROM THE PRINTER. Unbelievable.
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: printing aircraft |
Yes, I've seen the spanner demo... I've seen some incredible examples, one
of a hollow sphere inside a hollow sphere inside a hollow sphere, with each
sphere exquisitely "carved", something that would be truly impossible to do
any other way. So, yeah, doing the impossible is why this is such an
incredible technology.
I think the next step is the ability to extrude different materials -- each
with unique properties -- so that when printing, unique capabilities can be
added... things like bearings, ceramic cylinders, etc. When we get to that
stage, then people won't have to buy small appliances any longer, they'll
just buy the "plans", it'll be downloaded into the home-3D-printer, and the
appliance will simply be printed. (Ideally, old appliances can be
de-constituted into its component parts, and the material re-used into the
next appliance.)
I do wonder if we'll ever be able to print a working engine... but if
ceramics can be extruded, I can't think of why not. And, with enough
resolution and control, sails should be able to be printed, too.
So, my guess is about 15 years from now, for a fully printable aircraft.
If only we could print gasoline/petrol! haha.
-- R
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Pat Ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> wrote:
> **
> Robert,
> what I find incredible is that it is possible to print a WORKING model..
>
> I saw a guy on TV copy an adjustable spanner (What you call a wrench I
> believe) and it featured a knurled nut to obtain the adjustment. At the
> last moment someone asked for the nut to be a different colour, Sure enough
> the finished copy not only was delivered with the nut in red and the rest
> of the spanner in silver but the nut WORKED and the spanner could be
> adjusted in the normal way.
> Also on TV I saw a small model with a multiple rolling leg design.It was
> 8/9 inches long and had a body about 4inches by 4.It looked like a design
> for a moon explorer. It came straight from the 3D printer.It then had a
> small fan attached. When the presenter blew on the fan it turned a gear
> train which drove an axle to which the legs were attached and the damn
> thing moved forward. There must have been 25 or 30 working joints on this
> thing and they all flexed and hinged as if assembled from separate
> pieces.This was STRAIGHT FROM THE PRINTER. Unbelievable.
>
> Pat
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Too Cold To F fly |
Morning Kolbers:
Too cold to play outside today. Stumbled across a few photos from our get
together at the Rock House last June 2012. Was a much better day the day of
this flight.
The blue and white FSII is Larry Cottrell, Rock House, Oregon, and the
yellow FS KXP is Roger Hankin, Grants Pass, Oregon.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Confused about FAA Registration ... |
Time: 06:51:31 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Confused about FAA Registration ...
From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
Wes, Most of what you say is true, unless your airplane is E-LSA
and not
derived from an S-LSA airplane (like the RV-12) or demoted from an
S-LSA
when the manufacturer went out of business. If you let your
registration
expire on an E-LSA that was registered during the grandfathering
phase of
starting up LSA there is no way to go back and re-register. Why,
because
21.191 i(1) expired on 1-31-2008. The version of form 8088A that
was used
during the grandfathering period to apply for registration expired
then,
too. I'm sure the good folks at the Light Sport Branch of the FAA
in
Oklahoma City are tired of confirming it, but you can call them
and check
it out.
Rick,
This has come up in the past regarding E-LSA registration expiring. I
just talked to Tim Bogenhagen at EAA, and he told me this is not so. If
you are the owner of an expired E-LSA, you simply have to send in form
8050-1. He said since you already own the plane, you do not have to
submit form 8050-2 or show evidence of ownership. Whats more, he said
if you purchase the plane with an expired N-number, you can submit "its
equivalent" to evidence of ownership, as prescribed in part 47, and on
the instructions of form 8050-1.
I am certainly no expert on issues with the FAA, and I know that the EAA
is not perfect, but he sounded like he's been down this path before. I
encourage people to always do their own leg work and take info on forums
with a grain of salt. As you said, call the FAA.
Tom McCarthy
N863GB Slingshot
N441TM Firestar
N541TM Zenith 601HD
All registered E-LSA----All registrations current
Back to lurking mode, and maybe build mode very soon.
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Hi everyone
I wanted to let you know that Kolb will be at Sun N Fun Light plane section in
Paradise City Space # 2 .
The show starts on The 9TH. of April and ends on the 14TH.
We are busy here at The Kolb Co .I will be glad to see my friends and Warm weather
.
Please come and visit our display and always a pleasure to have such wonderful
customers.
We are keeping Homers design alive forever.
Travis
Kolb Co
www.kolbaircraft.com
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392964#392964
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I wanted to let you know that Kolb will be at Sun N Fun Light plane
section in Paradise City Space # 2 .
Travis
Kolb Co
Travis:
Is this the same site Kolb has been in for so many years in the ultralight
area, or over in the LSA area?
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Future of Kolb |
Kolb is doing fine in all ways.
We are blessed with Homer Kolb's name and design.
We don't advertise much because it seems you guys are doing the best job of introducing
new folks to this old ,well thought of design.
Kolb will always be here for support and new kits.
I take calls 24/7 and I love talking about these kits and design.
Here is our youtube channel
http://www.youtube.com/user/kolbaircraft?feature=watch
Kind Regards
Travis
Kolb Co
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| Subject: | Re: printing aircraft |
Hiu guys , About 3d printer try "youtube 3d radial aircraft engine "to see
something incredable !=0A=0A=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot
=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly=0A=0A=0A>__________________________
______=0A>From: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>=0A>To: kolb-list@matron
ics.com =0A>Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 11:05 AM=0A>Subject: Re: Kolb
-List: printing aircraft=0A>=0A>=0A>Yes, I've seen the spanner demo... -I
've seen some incredible examples, one of a hollow sphere inside a hollow s
phere inside a hollow sphere, with each sphere-exquisitely-"carved", so
mething that would be truly impossible to do any other way. -So, yeah, do
ing the impossible is why this is such an incredible technology. =0A>=0A>
=0A>I think the next step is the ability to extrude different materials --
each with unique properties -- so that when printing, unique capabilities c
an be added... things like bearings, ceramic cylinders, etc. -When we get
to that stage, then people won't have to buy small appliances any longer,
they'll just buy the "plans", it'll be downloaded into the home-3D-printer,
and the appliance will simply be printed. -(Ideally, old appliances can
be de-constituted into its component parts, and the material re-used into t
he next appliance.)=0A>=0A>=0A>I do wonder if we'll ever be able to print a
working engine... but if ceramics can be extruded, I can't think of why no
t. -And, with enough resolution and control, sails should be able to be p
rinted, too.=0A>=0A>=0A>So, my guess is about 15 years from now, for a full
y printable aircraft.=0A>=0A>=0A>If only we could print gasoline/petrol!
-haha.=0A>=0A>=0A>- -- R=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:54 AM
, Pat Ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> wrote:=0A>=0A>Robert,=0A>>what I find i
ncredible is that it is possible to print a WORKING model..=0A>>-=0A>>I s
aw a guy on TV copy an adjustable spanner (What you call a wrench I believe
) and it featured a knurled nut to obtain the adjustment. At the last momen
t someone asked for the nut to be a different colour, Sure enough the finis
hed copy not only was delivered with the nut in red and the rest of the spa
nner in silver but the nut WORKED and the spanner could be adjusted in the
normal way.=0A>>Also- on TV I saw a small model with a multiple rolling l
eg design.It was 8/9 inches long and- had a body about 4inches by 4.It lo
oked like a design for a moon explorer. It came straight from the 3D printe
r.It then had a small fan attached. When the presenter blew on the fan it t
urned a gear train which drove an axle to which the legs were attached and
the damn thing moved forward. There must have been 25 or 30 working joints
on this thing and they all flexed and hinged as if assembled from separate
pieces.This was --- STRAIGHT FROM THE PRINTER. Unbelievable.=0A>>-
=0A>>Pat=0A>>get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
tp://forums.matronics.com_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
================= =0A>=0A>
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John
I think Travis said that they got booted from their old spot...? Herb
At 03:26 PM 1/23/2013, you wrote:
>
>
> I wanted to let you know that Kolb will be at Sun N Fun Light plane
>section in Paradise City Space # 2 .
>
>
> Travis
>Kolb Co
>
>
>Travis:
>
>Is this the same site Kolb has been in for so many years in the ultralight
>area, or over in the LSA area?
>
>john h
>mkIII
>Titus, Alabama
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: printing aircraft |
Try this--- www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1eKadlPC4w =0A=0A=0AChris Davi
s=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly
=0A=0A=0A>________________________________=0A>From: chris davis <capedavis@
yahoo.com>=0A>To: "kolb-list@matronics.com" <kolb-list@matronics.com> =0A>S
ent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 6:14 PM=0A>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: printin
g aircraft=0A>=0A>=0A>Hiu guys , About 3d printer try "youtube 3d radial ai
rcraft engine "to see something incredable !=0A>=0A>=0A>Chris Davis=0A>KXP
503 492 hrs=0A>Glider Pilot=0A>Disabled from crash building Firefly=0A>=0A>
=0A>=0A>>________________________________=0A>>From: Robert Laird <rlaird@ca
vediver.com>=0A>>To: kolb-list@matronics.com =0A>>Sent: Wednesday, January
23, 2013 11:05 AM=0A>>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: printing aircraft=0A>>=0A>>
=0A>>Yes, I've seen the spanner demo... -I've seen some incredible exampl
es, one of a hollow sphere inside a hollow sphere inside a hollow sphere, w
ith each sphere-exquisitely-"carved", something that would be truly imp
ossible to do any other way. -So, yeah, doing the impossible is why this
is such an incredible technology. =0A>>=0A>>=0A>>I think the next step is t
he ability to extrude different materials -- each with unique properties --
so that when printing, unique capabilities can be added... things like bea
rings, ceramic cylinders, etc. -When we get to that stage, then people wo
n't have to buy small appliances any longer, they'll just buy the "plans",
it'll be downloaded into the home-3D-printer, and the appliance will simply
be printed. -(Ideally, old appliances can be de-constituted into its com
ponent parts, and the material re-used into the next appliance.)=0A>>=0A>>
=0A>>I do wonder if we'll ever be able to print a working engine... but if
ceramics can be extruded, I can't think of why not. -And, with enough res
olution and control, sails should be able to be printed, too.=0A>>=0A>>=0A>
>So, my guess is about 15 years from now, for a fully printable aircraft.
=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>If only we could print gasoline/petrol! -haha.=0A>>=0A>>
=0A>>- -- R=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Pat Ladd
<pj.ladd@btinternet.com> wrote:=0A>>=0A>>Robert,=0A>>>what I find incredibl
e is that it is possible to print a WORKING model..=0A>>>-=0A>>>I saw a g
uy on TV copy an adjustable spanner (What you call a wrench I believe) and
it featured a knurled nut to obtain the adjustment. At the last moment some
one asked for the nut to be a different colour, Sure enough the finished co
py not only was delivered with the nut in red and the rest of the spanner i
n silver but the nut WORKED and the spanner could be adjusted in the normal
way.=0A>>>Also- on TV I saw a small model with a multiple rolling leg de
sign.It was 8/9 inches long and- had a body about 4inches by 4.It looked
like a design for a moon explorer. It came straight from the 3D printer.It
then had a small fan attached. When the presenter blew on the fan it turned
a gear train which drove an axle to which the legs were attached and the d
amn thing moved forward. There must have been 25 or 30 working joints on th
is thing and they all flexed and hinged as if assembled from separate piece
s.This was --- STRAIGHT FROM THE PRINTER. Unbelievable.=0A>>>-=0A>>
>Pat=0A>>>get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-Listtp:
//forums.matronics.com_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution =0A>
-========================
=================== =0A>=0A>
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Think he said that the old area was full.... ? Herb
At 05:27 PM 1/23/2013, you wrote:
>
>John
>
> I think Travis said that they got booted from their old spot...? Herb
>
>
>At 03:26 PM 1/23/2013, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I wanted to let you know that Kolb will be at Sun N Fun Light plane
>>section in Paradise City Space # 2 .
>>
>>
>> Travis
>>Kolb Co
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Travis:
>>
>>Is this the same site Kolb has been in for so many years in the ultralight
>>area, or over in the LSA area?
>>
>>john h
>>mkIII
>>Titus, Alabama
>>
>>
>
>
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I think Travis said that they got booted from their old spot...? Herb
That would be a shame after all these years.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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Do not think it was a negative thing...just something about changes
in space allocation by Sun N Fun...?? Herb
At 07:58 PM 1/23/2013, you wrote:
>
>
> I think Travis said that they got booted from their old spot...? Herb
>
>
>That would be a shame after all these years.
>
>john h
>mkIII
>Titus, Alabama
>
>
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