---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 01/30/13: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:08 AM - Re: Re: Kolb Mark III versus Rans S-12 (Beauford) 2. 08:10 AM - New Possibilities (Dennis Thate) 3. 08:25 AM - Re: Re: Kolb Mark III versus Rans S-12 (Beauford) 4. 08:48 AM - Re: Re: Kolb Mark III versus Rans S-12 (chris davis) 5. 09:06 AM - Re: Re: Kolb Mark III versus Rans S-12 (b young) 6. 10:05 AM - Virus-DO NOT OPEN EMAIL with subject Hi (your name or Hey) from me (GARY JINDRA) 7. 03:00 PM - Re: Re: Re: Kolb Mark III versus Rans S-12 (Ellery Batchelder Jr) 8. 03:22 PM - 447 engine maintnance... (herb) 9. 06:17 PM - Kolb Slingshot (Jimmy Young) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:08:03 AM PST US From: "Beauford " Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb Mark III versus Rans S-12 Dennis, Sounds good, but I'm really afraid of heights... and it might take a while - it's a 447.... beauford Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- be dropped at all: What if .... when the engine quit, instead of dropping - You could get out and work on the engine to try to get it restarted - Dennis ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:10:47 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: New Possibilities From: "Dennis Thate" Meet the new mighty V4 "baby block" engine 1650cc liquid-cooled V4, 185 HP Can I purchase a V4 Baby Block engine for a different application? Yes, we will offer crated engines once they have completed durability testing and become available in 2013. Pricing, drawings, and specifications will be announced soon. http://motusmotorcycles.com/kmv4.html [Idea] -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=393279#393279 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:25:10 AM PST US From: "Beauford " Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb Mark III versus Rans S-12 Brother Davis, I think you will be very happy with the way your Fly will handle.Mine is a ton of fun. As for the 447, they are known in some circles as being a tad cantankerous at times.but when alive, they put out a lot of power for their size and weight and make the Fly a snappy performer. I'm still considering the movement.. will advise. Good luck with your building. beauford FF-076 Brandon, FL Confused by 47 years of matrimony Do Not Archive From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of chris davis Beauford , Hi Im building av Firefly dont you fly one? I read that you are thinking about starting an anti 447 movement . I didnt know youwere unhappy with the 447 Chris Davis KXP 503 492 hrs Glider Pilot Disabled from crash building Firefly ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:48:02 AM PST US From: chris davis Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb Mark III versus Rans S-12 BEAUFORD, Thanks for the comeback I was afraid I jumped into the middle of somthing . Now if =0AI can find a 447 I can afford ! I have been considerin g every different type of power fro Wankel to electric=0A=C2-but they are all too expensive so I guess a lowtime used 447 is my best bet? Chris=0A =0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash build ing Firefly=0A=0A=0A>________________________________=0A> From: Beauford =0A>To: kolb-list@matronics.com =0A>Sent: Wednes day, January 30, 2013 11:24 AM=0A>Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb Mark III versus Rans S-12=0A> =0A>=0A>Brother Davis,=0A>I think you will be very h appy with the way your Fly will handleMine is a ton of fun.=C2- =C2- As for the 447, they are known in some=0A>circles as being a tad can tankerous at timesbut when alive, they put out a lot of power for their size and weight and make the=0A>Fly a snappy performer. =C2-I =99m still considering the movement.=C2-=C2- will advise. =0A> =C2-=0A>Good luck with your building.=0A>=C2-=0A>beauford=0A>FF-076=0A> Brandon, FL=0A>Confused by 47 years of matrimony=0A>Do Not Archive=0A>=C2 -=0A>From:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-se rver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of chris davis=0A>Beauford , Hi Im building a v Firefly dont you fly one? I read that you are thinking about starting an anti 447 movement . I didnt know youwere unhappy with the 447=0A>=C2-=0A> Chris Davis=0A>KXP 503 492 hrs=0A>Glider Pilot=0A>Disabled from crash build = =0A>=0A> ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:06:18 AM PST US From: "b young" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb Mark III versus Rans S-12 I am all ears!!!! how do I do this??????? boyd young do not archive >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What if .... when the engine quit, instead of dropping - You could get out and work on the engine to try to get it restarted - Dennis ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:05:08 AM PST US From: GARY JINDRA Subject: Kolb-List: Virus-DO NOT OPEN EMAIL with subject Hi (your name or Hey) from me =0Aattaches to contact list and sends itself,sorry-=0AGary Jindra ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:00:38 PM PST US Subject: Re: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb Mark III versus Rans S-12 From: Ellery Batchelder Jr I ran 3 different 447's without a hitch maintenance Is everything Ellery Batchelder Jr. -----Original Message----- From: capedavis@yahoo.com Sent: Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:49 pm Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb Mark III versus Rans S-12 Beauford , Hi Im building av Firefly dont you fly one? I read that you are thinking about starting an anti 447 movement . I didnt know youwere unhappy with the 447 Chris Davis KXP 503 492 hrs Glider Pilot Disabled from crash building Firefly From: Beauford Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 7:36 PM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb Mark III versus Rans S-12 Brother Elliott... T'is mathematics... count the number of spars in the wing....(3 for Kolb, w/one central huge main spar, v.s. 2, one front one rear, for the Rans) and the amount of 4130 chromoly steel wrapped around yer arse...(a complete welded 4130 cage in the Kolb, v.s. riveted aluminum tubes in the Rans).... and suddenly the math works out. i.e. .... Would you rather be dropped from the third deck sitting in a Reynolds-wrap hammock, or a Mosler steel safe...? If you prefer not to be dropped at all, contact me off-list.... Am starting an anti-447 working group... Worth what ye paid fer it... Do Not Archive beauford FF-076 Brandon FL . I consider safety a big priority Wesley ======================= ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:22:54 PM PST US From: herb Subject: Kolb-List: 447 engine maintnance... Ellery I am very interested to see your maintenance schedule for 447's. Thanks Herb n 01/30/2013 05:00 PM, Ellery Batchelder Jr wrote: > > I ran 3 different 447's without a hitch maintenance Is everything > > Ellery Batchelder Jr. > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:17:34 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb Slingshot From: "Jimmy Young" Kolbers, I'm making this post on behalf of fellow Kolb owner & pilot Dean Chandler. He asked me to let the list know he is moving from Kentucky to Florida and has his Kolb Slingshot for sale. He would have made the post himself, but lives so far out in the boonies he does not have internet access. I first saw his plane back in 2007 at the Kolb Factory reunion. At the time I knew nothing about Kolbs or flying for that matter, but we stayed in touch and I have a few photos of his Slingshot on file which I am attaching. He told me the 582 engine has over 500 hrs, well past TBO, but according to him it still runs fine and has flown within the month. He is asking $6500 for the plane. It is N359RC and has an A/W certificate dated 1999. When I last saw it, his Slingshot was one fine looking Kolb. Dean's ph# is 606.305.7870. If anyone is interested, he asks that you give him a call. Jimmy Young Houston TX Former Kolb FS owner, but still a Kolb admirer & List Lurker. Now flying something different. 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