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Sun 03/03/13


Total Messages Posted: 7



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     1. 10:40 AM - Kolb Firestar II Cockpit Enclosure (Dennis Thate)
     2. 11:15 AM - Re: Kolb Firestar II Cockpit Enclosure (herb)
     3. 02:13 PM - Re: Kolb Firestar II Cockpit Enclosure (Dennis Thate)
     4. 02:30 PM - Re: Re: Kolb Firestar II Cockpit Enclosure (herb)
     5. 03:34 PM - Re: Kolb Firestar II Cockpit Enclosure (Dennis Thate)
     6. 03:44 PM - Re: Re: Kolb Firestar II Cockpit Enclosure (herb)
     7. 05:04 PM - Re: Kolb Firestar II Cockpit Enclosure (frank goodnight)
 
 
 


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    Time: 10:40:27 AM PST US
    Subject: Kolb Firestar II Cockpit Enclosure
    From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman@frontier.com>
    I've decided to enclose my Firestar II Cockpit because of the short flying season where I live. I've discussed this with Kolb Aircraft but as much as I would like to buy from Travis, I'm just not satisfied with the post running down the middle of canopy concept they offer in their after market kit. I'm hoping to see some different ideas posted that Firestar owners have built ,and any pro's and con's of these original designs. I've seen many cool ideas, but so far this design in the photo appeals to me the most . Thanks, Dennis I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things Antoine de Saint-Exupry -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395523#395523 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb99_149.jpg


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    Time: 11:15:51 AM PST US
    From: herb <herbgh@nctc.com>
    Subject: Re: Kolb Firestar II Cockpit Enclosure
    Kinda looks like the firefly , full enclosure...The lexan is the center hinge...Fastens to the nose cone well down from center on the left side...and same on the curved support at the rear...Just wraps over the right side of the nose cone and rear frame...The left side and the right are fitted with a piece of angle aluminum to firm up the lexan..the angle on the right side provides attach points for the latch...The angle on the left attaches to the cage longeron...Herb On 03/03/2013 12:37 PM, Dennis Thate wrote: > > I've decided to enclose my Firestar II Cockpit because of the short flying season where I live. I've discussed this with Kolb Aircraft but as much as I would like to buy from Travis, I'm just not satisfied with the post running down the middle of canopy concept they offer in their after market kit. > > I'm hoping to see some different ideas posted that Firestar owners have built ,and any pro's and con's of these original designs. > > I've seen many cool ideas, but so far this design in the photo appeals to me the most . > > Thanks, > Dennis > >


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    Time: 02:13:48 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kolb Firestar II Cockpit Enclosure
    From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman@frontier.com>
    Just got this in a private e-mail... This is a fine piece of workmanship and I think this is exactly what I'm seeking! Thanks for sharing ! -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395550#395550 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb_cockpit_184.jpg


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    Time: 02:30:47 PM PST US
    From: herb <herbgh@nctc.com>
    Subject: Re: Kolb Firestar II Cockpit Enclosure
    Good design...but---way overbuilt ....check out the Firefly enclosure...no tubing in the field of view...Almost no tubing at all...Just a circular piece up near the wing to support the ,0625 lexan.. The curved lexan has quite a bit of strength...and is fine at the speeds that we fly.. Herb On 03/03/2013 04:13 PM, Dennis Thate wrote: > > Just got this in a private e-mail... This is a fine piece of workmanship and I think this is exactly what I'm seeking! > > Thanks for sharing ! > > -------- > Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395550#395550 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb_cockpit_184.jpg > >


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    Time: 03:34:54 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kolb Firestar II Cockpit Enclosure
    From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman@frontier.com>
    That's a beautiful firefly. The overbuilt concept may be true, but still a great idea in event of a bird strike, something in my part of the country to be concerned about. A weight & balance to follow for sure. -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395552#395552


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    Time: 03:44:56 PM PST US
    From: herb <herbgh@nctc.com>
    Subject: Re: Kolb Firestar II Cockpit Enclosure
    Thanks Dennis Certainly a bird strike is a concern...I tend to think that the curvature and toughness of the Lexan would negate a bird strike... I had a close call some years back...Some kind of high flying "swift" ..I saw it as a speck and within seconds it went by me...We were closing at a very high rate... Herb On 03/03/2013 05:34 PM, Dennis Thate wrote: > > That's a beautiful firefly. > > The overbuilt concept may be true, but still a great idea in event of a bird strike, something in my part of the country to be concerned about. A weight & balance to follow for sure. > > -------- > Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395552#395552 > >


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    Time: 05:04:47 PM PST US
    From: frank goodnight <frank.goodnight@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Kolb Firestar II Cockpit Enclosure
    Hi All,=0ADennis--Soon as the weather warms up a little I plan to cover the cage on my=0Afirestar 11. I have enough .016 alum left over from the 701 p roject to skin it .=0A Don't know how much more it weighs but it shouldn't be much heavier than the=0Apolyfiber.Plan to weld some tabs on the tubes an d go from there.My main worry is =0Aif i can get it to look neat enough to suit me.The other thing is -- I plan to =0Amove my instrument =0Apanel aft about 8''. As it is in the standard nose bowl from kolb , i can't =0Areach my=0AEIS without using a stick to punch the buttons, also have trouble read ing or =0Achanging=0Athe GPS. =0A I've tried 3 different type windscreens- - the shorty from kolb--one with 2 =0Atubes from the nose bowl aft--and one with one tube from the nose bowl aft. For =0Amy money there isn't any real =0Adifference as far as visitability or ease of getting in and out of the cockpit. =0AMy real faverite=0Ais no nose bowl or cage cover, but there is just too much bad weather in north =0AAR for that.=0A Good luck with your p roject, keep us posted=0AFrank=0Ado not archive=0A=0A=0A=0A________________ ________________=0AFrom: Dennis Thate <retroman@frontier.com>=0ATo: kolb-li st@matronics.com=0ASent: Sun, March 3, 2013 12:41:06 PM=0ASubject: Kolb-Lis "Dennis Thate" <retroman@frontier.com>=0A=0AI've decided to enclose my Fir estar II Cockpit because of the short flying =0Aseason where I live. I've d iscussed this with Kolb Aircraft but as much as I =0Awould like to buy from Travis, I'm just not satisfied with the post running down =0Athe middle of canopy concept they offer in their after market kit.=0A=0A I'm hoping to see some different ideas posted that Firestar owners have built =0A,and any pro's and con's of these original designs.=0A=0AI've seen many cool ideas, but so far this design in the photo appeals to me the =0Amost .=0A=0AThank s,=0ADennis=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=9CI fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things=9D =93 Antoine =0Ade Saint-Exup=C3=A9ry=0A=0A--------=0ABoth optimists and pessimists cont ribute to our society. The optimist invents =0Athe airplane and the pessim ist the parachute. ~Gil Stern=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here: =0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395523#395523=0A=0A=0A =0A=0AAttachments: =0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb99_149.jpg -======================== ==================




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