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1. 10:40 AM - Kolb Firestar II Cockpit Enclosure (Dennis Thate)
2. 11:15 AM - Re: Kolb Firestar II Cockpit Enclosure (herb)
3. 02:13 PM - Re: Kolb Firestar II Cockpit Enclosure (Dennis Thate)
4. 02:30 PM - Re: Re: Kolb Firestar II Cockpit Enclosure (herb)
5. 03:34 PM - Re: Kolb Firestar II Cockpit Enclosure (Dennis Thate)
6. 03:44 PM - Re: Re: Kolb Firestar II Cockpit Enclosure (herb)
7. 05:04 PM - Re: Kolb Firestar II Cockpit Enclosure (frank goodnight)
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Subject: | Kolb Firestar II Cockpit Enclosure |
I've decided to enclose my Firestar II Cockpit because of the short flying season
where I live. I've discussed this with Kolb Aircraft but as much as I would
like to buy from Travis, I'm just not satisfied with the post running down the
middle of canopy concept they offer in their after market kit.
I'm hoping to see some different ideas posted that Firestar owners have built
,and any pro's and con's of these original designs.
I've seen many cool ideas, but so far this design in the photo appeals to me the
most .
Thanks,
Dennis
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things Antoine de
Saint-Exupry
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
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Subject: | Re: Kolb Firestar II Cockpit Enclosure |
Kinda looks like the firefly , full enclosure...The lexan is the center
hinge...Fastens to the nose cone well down from center on the left
side...and same on the curved support at the rear...Just wraps over the
right side of the nose cone and rear frame...The left side and the right
are fitted with a piece of angle aluminum to firm up the lexan..the
angle on the right side provides attach points for the latch...The angle
on the left attaches to the cage longeron...Herb
On 03/03/2013 12:37 PM, Dennis Thate wrote:
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> I've decided to enclose my Firestar II Cockpit because of the short flying season
where I live. I've discussed this with Kolb Aircraft but as much as I would
like to buy from Travis, I'm just not satisfied with the post running down
the middle of canopy concept they offer in their after market kit.
>
> I'm hoping to see some different ideas posted that Firestar owners have built
,and any pro's and con's of these original designs.
>
> I've seen many cool ideas, but so far this design in the photo appeals to me
the most .
>
> Thanks,
> Dennis
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Kolb Firestar II Cockpit Enclosure |
Just got this in a private e-mail... This is a fine piece of workmanship and I
think this is exactly what I'm seeking!
Thanks for sharing !
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Subject: | Re: Kolb Firestar II Cockpit Enclosure |
Good design...but---way overbuilt ....check out the Firefly
enclosure...no tubing in the field of view...Almost no tubing at
all...Just a circular piece up near the wing to support the ,0625
lexan.. The curved lexan has quite a bit of strength...and is fine at
the speeds that we fly.. Herb
On 03/03/2013 04:13 PM, Dennis Thate wrote:
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> Just got this in a private e-mail... This is a fine piece of workmanship and
I think this is exactly what I'm seeking!
>
> Thanks for sharing !
>
> --------
> Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395550#395550
>
>
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb_cockpit_184.jpg
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>
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Subject: | Re: Kolb Firestar II Cockpit Enclosure |
That's a beautiful firefly.
The overbuilt concept may be true, but still a great idea in event of a bird strike,
something in my part of the country to be concerned about. A weight & balance
to follow for sure.
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
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Subject: | Re: Kolb Firestar II Cockpit Enclosure |
Thanks Dennis
Certainly a bird strike is a concern...I tend to think that the
curvature and toughness of the Lexan would negate a bird strike...
I had a close call some years back...Some kind of high flying "swift"
..I saw it as a speck and within seconds it went by me...We were closing
at a very high rate... Herb
On 03/03/2013 05:34 PM, Dennis Thate wrote:
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> That's a beautiful firefly.
>
> The overbuilt concept may be true, but still a great idea in event of a bird
strike, something in my part of the country to be concerned about. A weight &
balance to follow for sure.
>
> --------
> Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395552#395552
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Kolb Firestar II Cockpit Enclosure |
Hi All,=0ADennis--Soon as the weather warms up a little I plan to cover the
cage on my=0Afirestar 11. I have enough .016 alum left over from the 701 p
roject to skin it .=0A Don't know how much more it weighs but it shouldn't
be much heavier than the=0Apolyfiber.Plan to weld some tabs on the tubes an
d go from there.My main worry is =0Aif i can get it to look neat enough to
suit me.The other thing is -- I plan to =0Amove my instrument =0Apanel aft
about 8''. As it is in the standard nose bowl from kolb , i can't =0Areach
my=0AEIS without using a stick to punch the buttons, also have trouble read
ing or =0Achanging=0Athe GPS. =0A I've tried 3 different type windscreens-
- the shorty from kolb--one with 2 =0Atubes from the nose bowl aft--and one
with one tube from the nose bowl aft. For =0Amy money there isn't any real
=0Adifference as far as visitability or ease of getting in and out of the
cockpit. =0AMy real faverite=0Ais no nose bowl or cage cover, but there is
just too much bad weather in north =0AAR for that.=0A Good luck with your p
roject, keep us posted=0AFrank=0Ado not archive=0A=0A=0A=0A________________
________________=0AFrom: Dennis Thate <retroman@frontier.com>=0ATo: kolb-li
st@matronics.com=0ASent: Sun, March 3, 2013 12:41:06 PM=0ASubject: Kolb-Lis
"Dennis Thate" <retroman@frontier.com>=0A=0AI've decided to enclose my Fir
estar II Cockpit because of the short flying =0Aseason where I live. I've d
iscussed this with Kolb Aircraft but as much as I =0Awould like to buy from
Travis, I'm just not satisfied with the post running down =0Athe middle of
canopy concept they offer in their after market kit.=0A=0A I'm hoping to
see some different ideas posted that Firestar owners have built =0A,and any
pro's and con's of these original designs.=0A=0AI've seen many cool ideas,
but so far this design in the photo appeals to me the =0Amost .=0A=0AThank
s,=0ADennis=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=9CI fly because it releases my
mind from the tyranny of petty things=9D =93 Antoine
=0Ade Saint-Exup=C3=A9ry=0A=0A--------=0ABoth optimists and pessimists cont
ribute to our society. The optimist invents =0Athe airplane and the pessim
ist the parachute. ~Gil Stern=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:
=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395523#395523=0A=0A=0A
=0A=0AAttachments: =0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb99_149.jpg
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