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1. 01:13 AM - Re: mounting hinges (Carolina Flyer)
2. 03:15 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 04/09/13 (Ted Cowan)
3. 05:46 AM - Re: mounting hinges (Richard Pike)
4. 05:55 AM - Re: Re: Kolb location at S&F ()
5. 06:16 AM - Re: Re: mounting hinges ()
6. 06:18 AM - Re: Exhaust Clamps - 447 (Gary Aman)
7. 06:37 AM - Re: Re: mounting hinges ()
8. 07:05 AM - Re: mounting hinges (Ralph B)
9. 07:22 AM - Re: Exhaust Clamps - 447 (Beauford)
10. 07:47 AM - Re: Re: Exhaust Clamps - 447 (Beauford)
11. 12:29 PM - Re: Exhaust Clamps - 447 (Gary Aman)
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Subject: | Re: mounting hinges |
Nick,
Here is a Picture of the X-Hinge I am using on my Firestar II. I do not know if
these can be bought but they are very easy to make. It takes twice as much hinge
to make these. Some people think less is better, but I think I need to make
things as good as I can if my life is depending on it. This is by far stronger,
and maybe even over-kill but I will bet this set-up is less likely to fail.
Best Regards Joe
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Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 04/09/13 |
I built my Kolb Slingshot with split hinges on the rudder. That is they
were cut to intertwine, a gruesome task. But, it stabilizes the
rudder to center point and greatly enhances the strength of the hinges.
They work and look great. On the ailerons though, you
have to remember the initial way to install the hinges creates aileron
differential and that is important. It allows the ail to go up
much more than travel down and that reduces drag during a banking turn thus
eliminating or almost eliminating the need to use
the rudder during a turn. At least, that is way mine works. I believe it
is called adverse yaw. During the six or more years
I flew my firestar I had to adjust the rudder hinges many times for they
would bend in one direction and offset the rudder.
The X hinge system fixed this and I now do not worry about the pressure and
speeds I now fly. I believe the information is
in the archieves but if not, I may be able to get the infor and pattern.
Very glad I did it. my two cents.
Ted Cowan, Slingshot 912 UL zoom zoom
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Subject: | Re: mounting hinges |
You can also split them this way:
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Hebrews 11:1
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Subject: | Re: Kolb location at S&F |
Rick,
We are located due west of ul briefing tent.
Give us a call if you are still lost.
3343152621
John
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Subject: | Re: mounting hinges |
Ref x hinges.
See if I can figure this out.
Cut half the loops off the hinge resulting in a stronger hinge?
Lot of work compared using the whole hinge.
There is no problem with current hinges or Kolb method of attachment.
Johnh
MkIII
Lakeland, FL
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Subject: | Re: Exhaust Clamps - 447 |
The springs that you can get from JBM are stainless steel.You only have to
buy them once.You will have them with-in 4 days of ordering.
G.Aman
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From: Beauford <beauford173@tampabay.rr.com>
Sent: Sun, Apr 7, 2013 7:10 pm
Subject: Kolb-List: Exhaust Clamps - 447
Kolbers:
Today, during annual inspection on the Kleenex Fly, observed that the after
market exhaust system clamps on the evil 447
evidenced a problem. These stainless steel circular clamps, held in place
with 3/8 inch A/N nuts and bolts around their
circumference, are widely used to replace the traditional Rotax muffler spr
ings. On mine, the innermost clamp closest to the
=9CY=9D in the manifold, no longer had the dimension to clamp s
ecurely against the swelling end of the manifold pipe where it
enters into the =9CU=9D shaped elbow. This condition was not r
elated to the tightness of the 3/8 inch nuts and bolts the clamp
had vibrated against the pipe and worn slightly to where it was just slight
ly too large to grip securely against the manifold tube.
Repositioning the clamp was not an option due to the proximity of the edge
of the =9CU=9D elbow.
The result was a loose clamp and excessive slop in the manifold-to-elbow co
nnection, together with significant evidence of blow-by leakage at that con
nection, a
condition which most of you know has larger implications for the reliable o
peration of a 2-stroke engine.
I think the clamps are tidy, sexy and prettyand I think the Rotax
springs, with their safety wire and red Permatex damping goo, are messy,
primitive and ugly but the ugly =98ol springs will be back
on Beauford=99s toy tomorrow. If you are a =9Cclamper
=9D v.s. a =9Cspringer=9D, you might want to take
a quick peek at yours. Can=99t hurt.
Am happy that I was cynical enough not to remove the old Rotax spring hange
rs when the spiffy new clamps were installed Never cut off anythin
g
old that might be of some use laterregardless of how improbable th
at prospect may seem at the time
worth what ye paid fer it.
Springy, de-clamped beauford
FF-076, N173BW
Brandon, FL
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Subject: | Re: mounting hinges |
I erred I my previous post. Didn't realize it took twice as much hinge for x
hinge.
John h
MkIII
Lakeland, FL
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Subject: | Re: mounting hinges |
Using the full hinge mount per plan lasts a long time as my Firestar is built that
way and has 1000 hrs. Also, I removed the book-binding tape between the aileron
and wing and didn't notice one bit of difference in banking the Kolbra.
John H: you can use the "edit" button to the right when making corrections in your
posts. There is no need to write another post. It will make the changes in
your original post. I may have mentioned this before, but it bears repeating.
Ralph
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000+ hours
26 years flying it
Kolbra 912ULS
N20386
200 hours
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Subject: | Exhaust Clamps - 447 |
Thank you for the good tip, Brother Aman
I have filed the JBM info away and will get back to it after I have
worked through my stash of stock
springsmost of them are unused and still smell faintly of
Gunskirchen.
I have to go now. back to my dark corner where I have been
alternately sulking, thumbsucking and sobbing
softly to myself after learning what it was going cost to re-pack and
re-rocket the =98ol BRS this time around If
I weren=99t so terrified of heights, I=99d be tempted to
just take the thing off and recomp the W&B
Broke again beauford
FF-076
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Aman
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Exhaust Clamps - 447
The springs that you can get from JBM are stainless steel.You only have
to buy them once.You will have them with-in 4 days of ordering.
G.Aman
-----Original Message-----
From: Beauford <beauford173@tampabay.rr.com>
Sent: Sun, Apr 7, 2013 7:10 pm
Subject: Kolb-List: Exhaust Clamps - 447
Kolbers:
Today, during annual inspection on the Kleenex Fly, observed that the
after market exhaust system clamps on the evil 447
evidenced a problem. These stainless steel circular clamps, held in
place with 3/8 inch A/N nuts and bolts around their
circumference, are widely used to replace the traditional Rotax muffler
springs. On mine, the innermost clamp closest to the
=9CY=9D in the manifold, no longer had the dimension to
clamp securely against the swelling end of the manifold pipe where it
enters into the =9CU=9D shaped elbow. This condition was
not related to the tightness of the 3/8 inch nuts and bolts the
clamp
had vibrated against the pipe and worn slightly to where it was just
slightly too large to grip securely against the manifold tube.
Repositioning the clamp was not an option due to the proximity of the
edge of the =9CU=9D elbow.
The result was a loose clamp and excessive slop in the manifold-to-elbow
connection, together with significant evidence of blow-by leakage at
that connection, a
condition which most of you know has larger implications for the
reliable operation of a 2-stroke engine.
I think the clamps are tidy, sexy and prettyand I think the
Rotax springs, with their safety wire and red Permatex damping goo, are
messy,
primitive and ugly but the ugly =98ol springs will be
back on Beauford=99s toy tomorrow. If you are a
=9Cclamper=9D v.s. a =9Cspringer=9D, you might
want to take
a quick peek at yours. Can=99t hurt.
Am happy that I was cynical enough not to remove the old Rotax spring
hangers when the spiffy new clamps were installed Never cut off
anything
old that might be of some use laterregardless of how improbable
that prospect may seem at the time
worth what ye paid fer it.
Springy, de-clamped beauford
FF-076, N173BW
Brandon, FL
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Subject: | Re: Exhaust Clamps - 447 |
Brother Pike:
Now that is super SLICK...! Yours put the commercially marketed clamps on
the night shift...!
You obviously have WAY too much time on your hands during the Tennessee
wintertime. I might be tempted to try
it if I weren't in the habit of cranking out welding that looks like the end
product of a grand-mal seizure.
Thankee fer the inspirational picture... now I'm depressed...
inadequate beauford.... sigh...
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Pike
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 12:24 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Exhaust Clamps - 447
These are not stainless, and require a bit of welding and grinding, but they
are about as bulletproof as it is possible to make:
--------
Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
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seen.
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Subject: | Re: Exhaust Clamps - 447 |
Tell you what Brother Beauford,when people share with me that they are afra
id of height,my standard reply is;"That's funny,I'm afraid of width!"
That's usually after they have been invited to fly in my Kolb MK3 and show
n the good sense to decline.G.Aman
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From: Beauford <beauford173@tampabay.rr.com>
Sent: Wed, Apr 10, 2013 2:25 pm
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Exhaust Clamps - 447
Thank you for the good tip, Brother Aman
I have filed the JBM info away and will get back to it after I have worked
through my stash of stock
springsmost of them are unused and still smell faintly of Gunskirc
hen.
I have to go now. back to my dark corner where I have been alter
nately sulking, thumbsucking and sobbing
softly to myself after learning what it was going cost to re-pack and re-ro
cket the =98ol BRS this time around If
I weren=99t so terrified of heights, I=99d be tempted to just t
ake the thing off and recomp the W&B
Broke again beauford
FF-076
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romise to do the same for you...
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From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Aman
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Exhaust Clamps - 447
The springs that you can get from JBM are stainless steel.You only have to
buy them once.You will have them with-in 4 days of ordering.
G.Aman
-----Original Message-----
From: Beauford <beauford173@tampabay.rr.com>
Sent: Sun, Apr 7, 2013 7:10 pm
Subject: Kolb-List: Exhaust Clamps - 447
Kolbers:
Today, during annual inspection on the Kleenex Fly, observed that the after
market exhaust system clamps on the evil 447
evidenced a problem. These stainless steel circular clamps, held in place
with 3/8 inch A/N nuts and bolts around their
circumference, are widely used to replace the traditional Rotax muffler spr
ings. On mine, the innermost clamp closest to the
=9CY=9D in the manifold, no longer had the dimension to clamp s
ecurely against the swelling end of the manifold pipe where it
enters into the =9CU=9D shaped elbow. This condition was not r
elated to the tightness of the 3/8 inch nuts and bolts the clamp
had vibrated against the pipe and worn slightly to where it was just slight
ly too large to grip securely against the manifold tube.
Repositioning the clamp was not an option due to the proximity of the edge
of the =9CU=9D elbow.
The result was a loose clamp and excessive slop in the manifold-to-elbow co
nnection, together with significant evidence of blow-by leakage at that con
nection, a
condition which most of you know has larger implications for the reliable o
peration of a 2-stroke engine.
I think the clamps are tidy, sexy and prettyand I think the Rotax
springs, with their safety wire and red Permatex damping goo, are messy,
primitive and ugly but the ugly =98ol springs will be back
on Beauford=99s toy tomorrow. If you are a =9Cclamper
=9D v.s. a =9Cspringer=9D, you might want to take
a quick peek at yours. Can=99t hurt.
Am happy that I was cynical enough not to remove the old Rotax spring hange
rs when the spiffy new clamps were installed Never cut off anythin
g
old that might be of some use laterregardless of how improbable th
at prospect may seem at the time
worth what ye paid fer it.
Springy, de-clamped beauford
FF-076, N173BW
Brandon, FL
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