---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 04/19/13: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:21 AM - Re: Re: mounting hinges/Email Mechanics ;-) (John Hauck) 2. 07:53 AM - Re: Matco hydraulic brakes (Rick Neilsen) 3. 04:05 PM - Re: Matco hydraulic brakes (b young) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:21:04 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: mounting hinges/Email Mechanics ;-) Just out of curiosity, how big js/are your tank(s)? Sent from my iPad Brad Brad N/Kolbers: Knew I was going to need a lot more than 10 gals of fuel, based on my experience with the Ultrastar and Firestar. During construction the mkIII, we designed and fabricated a 25 gal alum fuel tank. Built it out of 5052 .050 alum. Sloshed it when complete. Has never had a leak. Have never come up short on fuel, except once. Landed at Kit Carson County Airport, Colorado, with .75 gal. That was too close. john h mkIII Woodville, Florida ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:53:13 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Matco hydraulic brakes From: Rick Neilsen I have the same Matco brakes that I have been flying on my VW powered MKIIIC for fifteen years. Boyd exactly right on all points. I think Matco has newer more abrasive brake pads that I will try some day. I flew the factory demonstrator "Fat Albert" that had the same brakes and they were three times as powerful. Not sure why they worked so much better. Bottom line Matco brakes work very reliable if not super powerful but they are very functional. Anyway if you have money burning a hole in your pocket go ahead and get different brakes. Matco also has many options for improved performance that could be done with less cost than replacing them. Check with Matco. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 1:05 AM, b young wrote: > they are the same brakes I have on my mk III,,,,, the fixed pad does > slide back and forth (if installed correctly) there is a bushing keepin g > the 2 halves at a set distance apart,, the bushing goes over the mounti ng > bolt and slides back and forth through the flanged holes in the mounting > plate ,, the biggest problem , and it is not a big problem,,is they > don=92t hold as tight as I would like... when I had the 600 x6x 15 tires , > they held ok.. when I went to the larger tire, 600 x6 they will not hol d > the plane still at as high of an rpm, due to the longer moment arm on the > taller tire.. with 2 people in the plane, I can hold the brakes till the > tail comes up,,, solo, I will start to creep forward... matco make s > a brake that has 2 pistons, and has more holding power. and the axel an d > bearings are larger diamater as well. the axel is 7/8 instead of 5/8 if > my memory serves. > > boyd young > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Skel, If they're the Matco units like the ones on a Mk IIIX I worked on, > I'd go to another brand. > If yours have no way for the fixed pad to slide ask yourself how they > work. The fixed pad either has to be shimmed so tight that it glazes or > either the caliper or the disk has to bend. IMHO they are almost worthles s. > > Rick Girard > > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Skel wrote: > >> >> Can anyone tell me if these matco brakes are any good? From the researc h >> I've done so far....I think these may be the bad matco brakes I've heard >> about. I don't have the master cylinders or anything else related to th e >> braking system when I bought my unfinished kit. I'm hoping one of the >> experts can advise whether I should bother trying to source the missing >> parts or just buy a new braking system. Thanks in advance. >> >> -------- >> 96 Kolb Mark 3 Classic - Factory quick build kit that is unfinished >> 02 Chinook Plus 2, 582 Rotax - Registered AULA >> 05 Challenger 2 503 Rotax - 150 hrs experience >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398919#398919 >> >> >> >> >> Attachments: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/matco_brakes_401.jpg >> >> >> >> >> ========== >> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List >> ========== >> http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> le, List Admin. >> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Zulu Delta > Mk IIIC > Thanks, Homer GBYM > > It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhapp y. > - Groucho Marx > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c * > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:05:49 PM PST US From: "b young" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Matco hydraulic brakes Rick I had not given thought that Matco would have brake pads that are more (sticky, grabby, softer) I am not sure the correct word...... that would be a real easy / cheep fix for a bit more hold. just thinking out loud here,,, if the pads had more grip I would suppose they would wear faster. and that is not likely to be a problem. boyd >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have the same Matco brakes that I have been flying on my VW powered MKIIIC for fifteen years. Boyd exactly right on all points. I think Matco has newer more abrasive brake pads that I will try some day. I flew the factory demonstrator "Fat Albert" that had the same brakes and they were three times as powerful. Not sure why they worked so much better. Bottom line Matco brakes work very reliable if not super powerful but they are very functional. Anyway if you have money burning a hole in your pocket go ahead and get different brakes. Matco also has many options for improved performance that could be done with less cost than replacing them. Check with Matco. 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