---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 04/30/13: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:26 AM - Re: Homecoming (Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/ENS) 2. 10:04 AM - Washing (t41pilot) 3. 11:12 AM - Re: Re: Homecoming (Dennis Rowe) 4. 11:18 AM - Re: Washing (Dennis Rowe) 5. 04:12 PM - Re: Washing (Brad Nation) 6. 05:49 PM - q (kinne russ) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:26:33 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Homecoming From: "Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/ENS" Dennis Rowe wrote: << ... I plan for a maximum of 75 mile legs with reserve but any legs that long have to have alternative fuel options. >> Hey, Denny - welcome back to the List! Glad to hear you are still flying your Mark-3. With that kind of range, you'd be hard pressed to get too far in the Western states, where we often must flight plan for MINIMUM of 150 miles between fuel stops. For that reason, I bought the new "long range" gas tanks from Travis, for my Mark-3. (6-gallon tanks, versus the stock 5-gallon tanks.) That now gives me a range of about 250 miles - sufficient for my needs in the New Mexico/Arizona/Utah area. (Although I'm sure the guys with the 20 and 25 gallon size tanks are still chuckling at me!) Have a safe flight to the Kolb Homecoming! Dennis Kirby Mark-3, 912ul Sandia Park, NM ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:04:18 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Washing From: "t41pilot" It's finally warm enough in Michigan to think about flying. Hooked everything back up that was disconnected for winterization and prepared to do battle with the startup. Much to my surprise it started right up. Took just a couple of minutes to blow the fogging oil out of it. The Weather is not right for flying yet but I'd like to get the dirt off with a wash. I just finished it last fall so it hasn't been washed at all yet so I'm looking for advice on proper techniques and products to use since it is a fabric covered Aircraft. I read somewhere that it was not ok to use the standard bucket of soap and rinse with the hose since it would allow water to get into places where corrosion could get started. Also I haven't put in drain holes in all the rib bays yet per plan. It seems the plane would be littered with holes especially the ailerons. Are that many holes really necessary? I have some Mr Clean car wash solution that you are supposed to put in a sprayer and just spray it on and it just sheets right off and dries clear with no residue just like their window wash stuff. I thought about maybe just using a capful in a bucket to make a weak solution and washing with a soft sponge or cloth and rinsing lightly with the hose. But that flies in the face of one post I read somewhere. Any thoughts on this? -------- Gregg Kaat 2011 Firefly Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=399679#399679 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:12:33 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Homecoming From: Dennis Rowe Hey Dennis, glad to hear from you also. I'm still kicking around ideas to put larger fue l capacity in my bird, thinking around 14 to 16 gallon, want to keep it down low and put an external filler neck out the back but don't want to disturb t he fabric. It's going to have to slide through behind the seats I guess. I'm intrigued by the 80hp turbo HKS and its 3 gph fuel burn but they cost mo re than I have in my entire plane! Still think when the kids get through co llege Ill jump off the deep end on it. :-) Skid Rowe On Apr 30, 2013, at 12:25 PM, "Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/ENS" wrote: > Dennis Rowe wrote: > > << I plan for a maximum of 75 mile legs with reserve but any le gs that long have to have alternative fuel options. >> > > Hey, Denny =93 welcome back to the List! Glad to hear you are still flying your Mark-3. > > With that kind of range, you=99d be hard pressed to get too far in t he Western states, where we often must flight plan for MINIMUM of 150 miles b etween fuel stops. For that reason, I bought the new =9Clong range =9D gas tanks from Travis, for my Mark-3. (6-gallon tanks, versus the st ock 5-gallon tanks.) That now gives me a range of about 250 miles =93 sufficient for my needs in the New Mexico/Arizona/Utah area. > > (Although I=99m sure the guys with the 20 and 25 gallon size tanks a re still chuckling at me!) > > Have a safe flight to the Kolb Homecoming! > > Dennis Kirby > Mark-3, 912ul > Sandia Park, NM > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:18:23 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Washing From: Dennis Rowe Anything from dish soap to car wash soap in a bucket of water and sponge works for me, keep the water flowing and go easy on the lexan. When I'm done and patted dry, I hit the lexan with Plexus and a microfiber towel. Skid Rowe On Apr 30, 2013, at 1:03 PM, "t41pilot" wrote: > > It's finally warm enough in Michigan to think about flying. Hooked everything back up that was disconnected for winterization and prepared to do battle with the startup. Much to my surprise it started right up. Took just a couple of minutes to blow the fogging oil out of it. The Weather is not right for flying yet but I'd like to get the dirt off with a wash. I just finished it last fall so it hasn't been washed at all yet so I'm looking for advice on proper techniques and products to use since it is a fabric covered Aircraft. I read somewhere that it was not ok to use the standard bucket of soap and rinse with the hose since it would allow water to get into places where corrosion could get started. Also I haven't put in drain holes in all the rib bays yet per plan. It seems the plane would be littered with holes especially the ailerons. Are that many holes really necessary? I have some Mr Clean car wash solution that you are supposed to put in a sprayer and just spray i! > t on and it just sheets right off and dries clear with no residue just like their window wash stuff. I thought about maybe just using a capful in a bucket to make a weak solution and washing with a soft sponge or cloth and rinsing lightly with the hose. But that flies in the face of one post I read somewhere. Any thoughts on this? > > -------- > Gregg Kaat > 2011 Firefly > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=399679#399679 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:12:18 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Washing From: Brad Nation I use one of these on my car and don't have to dry it off nor worry about an y water spots even with the very hard water we have here in New Mexico as th e final rise water is filtered. The soap is designed for use with this syste m. http://www.amazon.com/Mr-Clean-AutoDry-System-Starter/dp/B0006M56CE Sent from my iPad Brad On Apr 30, 2013, at 12:17, Dennis Rowe wrote: > > Anything from dish soap to car wash soap in a bucket of water and sponge w orks for me, keep the water flowing and go easy on the lexan. When I'm done a nd patted dry, I hit the lexan with Plexus and a microfiber towel. > > Skid Rowe > > > On Apr 30, 2013, at 1:03 PM, "t41pilot" wrote: > >> >> It's finally warm enough in Michigan to think about flying. Hooked everyt hing back up that was disconnected for winterization and prepared to do batt le with the startup. Much to my surprise it started right up. Took just a c ouple of minutes to blow the fogging oil out of it. The Weather is not righ t for flying yet but I'd like to get the dirt off with a wash. I just finish ed it last fall so it hasn't been washed at all yet so I'm looking for advic e on proper techniques and products to use since it is a fabric covered Airc raft. I read somewhere that it was not ok to use the standard bucket of soap and rinse with the hose since it would allow water to get into places where corrosion could get started. Also I haven't put in drain holes in all the r ib bays yet per plan. It seems the plane would be littered with holes espec ially the ailerons. Are that many holes really necessary? I have some Mr Cl ean car wash solution that you are supposed to put in a sprayer and just spr ay! > i! >> t on and it just sheets right off and dries clear with no residue just l ike their window wash stuff. I thought about maybe just using a capful in a bucket to make a weak solution and washing with a soft sponge or cloth and r insing lightly with the hose. But that flies in the face of one post I read s omewhere. Any thoughts on this? >> >> -------- >> Gregg Kaat >> 2011 Firefly >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=399679#399679 > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:40 PM PST US From: kinne russ Subject: Kolb-List: q List, I need some advice. HOPEfully I can get a Kolb soon -- and I'll need insurance, at least not-in-motion coverage. Doubt I could get more than that as I have almost no Kolb experience; but do have a fair amount of GA flying. I am licensed and have a current class 2 physical. Do I need to join an ass'n? If so, which one would you recommend? Your comments will be much appreciated. 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