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1. 06:57 AM - Re: Release Form (Richard Pike)
2. 07:49 AM - Re: Washing (t41pilot)
3. 08:03 AM - Re: Re: Washing (John Hauck)
4. 08:24 AM - Re: Release Form (Stephen Spence)
5. 10:29 AM - Re: Release Form (herb)
6. 10:55 AM - Re: Release Form (Larry Cottrell)
7. 12:19 PM - 4/27/13 Kolbra video (Ralph B)
8. 05:10 PM - Re: 4/27/13 Kolbra video (Dennis Thate)
9. 05:48 PM - New Kolb Firestar II frameless Canopy (Dennis Thate)
10. 06:25 PM - Two place intercoms (Dennis Rowe)
11. 08:47 PM - Re: Two place intercoms (b young)
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| Subject: | Re: Release Form |
In addition to whatever release form you get, you could always disassemble it and
sell it to him as "Aircraft parts, sold separately, in non-flying condition."
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Hebrews 11:1
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I have a lot of Black in my paint scheme and I was concerned about any products
that might leave a residue and show up against the Black. Also It is my understanding
that Polytone paint is not that sturdy and any strong soaps might dull
it. I ended up washing with a mild solution of the Mr Clean stuff I had and
then used a chamois after a rinse. A lot of elbow grease as Jack had suggested
but it turned out good. A spray bottle to take care of bugs. Hopefully I'll only
have to do that a couple times a year and a spray bottle in between. I didn't
see any comments about drain holes in the rib bays. Do all you guys out there
have those in place on your aircraft?
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Gregg Kaat
2011 Firefly
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I didn't see any comments about drain holes in the rib bays. Do all you
guys out there have those in place on your aircraft?
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Gregg Kaat
Gregg K/Kolbers:
I use Blue Corral or Turtle Wax Car Wash with lots of water and a 5 gal
bucket. A long handle RV brush and a hand wash mitt get the job done.
Commercial car wash helps prevent streaking.
I have drain holes in everything, at their low point, when the MKIII is
sitting in its normal 3 point position .
My airplane is over 21 years old. No problems with corrosion.
I also use tube seal in 4130 tubing when I build my airplanes.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Release Form |
Tim:=0A=0A=C2-=C2-=C2- This is what I used, first, some time I ago.
=C2- I modified it to work on a =0Asubsequent sale of my Mk3X-tra.=C2-
Hope it helps.=0A=0ASteve Spence=0AFormer Kolb owner=0AAuburn Hills, MI=0A
=0APURCHASE AGREEMENT and LIABILITY RELEASE=0AAircraft flying is an activit
y that is potentially very dangerous and could =0Aresult in serious injury,
paralysis, permanent disfigurement or DEATH. EACH =0APILOT OR PARTICIPANT,
REGARDLESS OF EXPERIENCE, ASSUMES TOTAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR =0AHIS OR HER O
WN SAFETY. Description of ultra-light aircraft/vehicle=0A1995 Kolb FireFly
, single seat serial number FF013, White with red/black =0Astripes on wings
. Engine: Rotax 447 single carburetor, single ignition, recoil =0Astart=0AG
as tank capacity: 5 gallons.=0ABRS brand parachute which is in need of both
re-packing and rocket motor =0Areplacement.Consideration:=0ATotal sales pr
ice of ultra-light aircraft/vehicle is $9,000.00 (Nine thousand =0Aand no/1
00 dollars)due and payable at time of sale in cash or certified funds =0Aan
d this executed purchase agreement and liability release. =0A=0APrice does
not include the 24' enclosed Classic Dominator trailer which is being =0Apu
rchased separately.=0ABuyer, a single man, understands that the aircraft/ve
hicle being purchased has =0Abeen constructed by non-professionals from non
-certified parts and materials, =0Athat there has not and never will be any
certification of "airworthiness" by any =0Agovernment agency or other auth
ority. Buyer acknowledges that hidden defects may =0Aexist in this or any a
ircraft, and that an independent inspection by a qualified =0Aperson is the
right and responsibility of the buyer. Buyer also understands that =0Awhil
e the current regulations may not require any certification or training to
=0Afly aircraft/vehicles of this type, adequate training is an absolutely e
ssential =0Ain order to safely operate this machine. Buyer also understands
that ultra-light =0Aaircraft/vehicles have distinct flying characteristics
different from those of =0Ageneral aviation aircraft. Buyer promises to se
cure the requisite ultra-light =0Aspecific training prior to attempting any
flight with this aircraft. Buyer =0Aagrees that there is no warranty, expr
ess, written or implied. Buyer releases, =0Aforever discharges and holds se
ller harmless from any and all claims, demands, =0Adamages, actions, causes
of action, or suits for all injuries, losses, and =0Adamages to buyer or o
thers resulting from use or operation of this ultra-light =0Aaircraft/vehic
le. Buyer further indemnifies seller for any and all claims, =0Ademands, da
mages, actions, causes of action or suits for injuries, losses and =0Adamag
es to buyer or others resulting from or arising out of use or operation of
=0Athis ultra-light aircraft/vehicle. Buyer, a single man, agrees that this
=0Apurchase agreement and liability release is binding upon his heirs and
assigns =0Aor any future spouse as well and that the terms of this release
are contractual =0Aand not mere recital. Buyer declares and represents that
no promise, inducement =0Aor other agreement, not expressed in this docume
nt has been made to the Buyer =0Aconcerning the condition, flight character
istics or operation of this =0Aultra-light aircraft/vehicle and that this a
greement contains the entire between =0Athe Buyer and Seller. =0A=0A=E3
=0ABuyer=99s signature_______________________ Seller=99s sig
nature_____________________=0ADate:____________________ Date:______________
_______=0A:=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Tim Bjork <
tdbjork@gmail.com>=0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wed, May 1, 2013 2
:29:21 PM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: Release Form=0A=0A=0AHi Guys, I think I hav
e my Kolb FireStar 11 sold and would like to have the =0Abuyer sign some ki
nd of document that basically releases me of all reliability =0Aof this air
craft. What I have now is nothing so anything would be better then =0Athat.
so please send me what you have to my e-mail. =C2- tdbjork@gmail.com=0A
==== =0A
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| Subject: | Re: Release Form |
Good as any...but no form keeps one out of court...and from hiring a
lawyer...at that point one has lost...considerable sums...herb
On 05/02/2013 10:24 AM, Stephen Spence wrote:
> Tim:
> This is what I used, first, some time I ago. I modified it to
> work on a subsequent sale of my Mk3X-tra. Hope it helps.
> Steve Spence
> Former Kolb owner
> Auburn Hills, MI
>
> *PURCHASE AGREEMENT and LIABILITY RELEASE*
>
> Aircraft flying is an activity that is potentially very dangerous and
> could result in serious injury, paralysis, permanent disfigurement or
> *DEATH*. EACH PILOT OR PARTICIPANT, REGARDLESS OF EXPERIENCE, ASSUMES
> TOTAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR HIS OR HER OWN SAFETY.
>
> **
>
> *Description of ultra-light aircraft/vehicle*:
>
> 1995 Kolb FireFly , single seat serial number FF013, White with
> red/black stripes on wings. Engine: Rotax 447 single carburetor,
> single ignition, recoil start
>
> Gas tank capacity: 5 gallons.
>
> BRS brand parachute which is in need of both re-packing and rocket
> motor replacement.
>
> *
>
> Consideration:
>
> *
>
> Total sales price of ultra-light aircraft/vehicle is $9,000.00 (Nine
> thousand and no/100 dollars)due and payable at time of sale in cash or
> certified funds and this executed purchase agreement and liability
> release.
>
> Price does not include the 24' enclosed Classic Dominator trailer
> which is being purchased separately.
>
> Buyer, a single man, understands that the aircraft/vehicle being
> purchased has been constructed by non-professionals from non-certified
> parts and materials, that there has not and never will be any
> certification of "airworthiness" by any government agency or other
> authority. Buyer acknowledges that hidden defects may exist in this or
> any aircraft, and that an independent inspection by a qualified person
> is the right and responsibility of the buyer. Buyer also understands
> that while the current regulations may not require any certification
> or training to fly aircraft/vehicles of this type, adequate training
> is an absolutely essential in order to safely operate this machine.
> Buyer also understands that ultra-light aircraft/vehicles have
> distinct flying characteristics different from those of general
> aviation aircraft. Buyer promises to secure the requisite ultra-light
> specific training prior to attempting any flight with this aircraft.
> Buyer agrees that there is no warranty, express, written or implied.
> Buyer releases, forever discharges and holds seller harmless from any
> and all claims, demands, damages, actions, causes of action, or suits
> for all injuries, losses, and damages to buyer or others resulting
> from use or operation of this ultra-light aircraft/vehicle. Buyer
> further indemnifies seller for any and all claims, demands, damages,
> actions, causes of action or suits for injuries, losses and damages to
> buyer or others resulting from or arising out of use or operation of
> this ultra-light aircraft/vehicle. Buyer, a single man, agrees that
> this purchase agreement and liability release is binding upon his
> heirs and assigns or any future spouse as well and that the terms of
> this release are contractual and not mere recital. Buyer declares and
> represents that no promise, inducement or other agreement, not
> expressed in this document has been made to the Buyer concerning the
> condition, flight characteristics or operation of this ultra-light
> aircraft/vehicle and that this agreement contains the entire between
> the Buyer and Seller.
>
>
>
> Buyers signature_______________________ Sellers
> signature_____________________
>
> Date:____________________ Date:_____________________
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Tim Bjork <tdbjork@gmail.com>
> *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Wed, May 1, 2013 2:29:21 PM
> *Subject:* Kolb-List: Release Form
>
> Hi Guys, I think I have my Kolb FireStar 11 sold and would like to
> have the buyer sign some kind of document that basically releases me
> of all reliability of this aircraft. What I have now is nothing so
> anything would be better then that. so please send me what you have to
> my e-mail. tdbjork@gmail.com <mailto:tdbjork@gmail.com>
>
> Thanks in advance,,, Tim
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| Subject: | Re: Release Form |
You can chase this until kingdom come and there is no sure way to insure
that your butt will not be hanging out. The best bet is to not sell your
plane to an asshole. How you determine that is up to you. I have wrecked my
plane ( required repair) three times, and I have never complained to the
guy that built it once? Get him to sign the damn release and give him the
plane, or just burn it which ever makes you feel better.
Larry
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 11:28 AM, herb <herbgh@nctc.com> wrote:
> Good as any...but no form keeps one out of court...and from hiring a
> lawyer...at that point one has lost...considerable sums...herb
>
>
> On 05/02/2013 10:24 AM, Stephen Spence wrote:
>
> Tim:
>
> This is what I used, first, some time I ago. I modified it to work o
n
> a subsequent sale of my Mk3X-tra. Hope it helps.
>
> Steve Spence
> Former Kolb owner
> Auburn Hills, MI
>
>
> *PURCHASE AGREEMENT and LIABILITY RELEASE*
>
> Aircraft flying is an activity that is potentially very dangerous and
> could result in serious injury, paralysis, permanent disfigurement or *
> DEATH*. EACH PILOT OR PARTICIPANT, REGARDLESS OF EXPERIENCE, ASSUMES
> TOTAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR HIS OR HER OWN SAFETY.
> * *
>
> *Description of ultra-light aircraft/vehicle*:
>
> 1995 Kolb FireFly , single seat serial number FF013, White with red/black
> stripes on wings. Engine: Rotax 447 single carburetor, single ignition,
> recoil start
>
> Gas tank capacity: 5 gallons.
>
> BRS brand parachute which is in need of both re-packing and rocket motor
> replacement.
> *
>
> Consideration:
> *
>
> Total sales price of ultra-light aircraft/vehicle is $9,000.00 (Nine
> thousand and no/100 dollars)due and payable at time of sale in cash or
> certified funds and this executed purchase agreement and liability releas
e.
>
> Price does not include the 24' enclosed Classic Dominator trailer which i
s
> being purchased separately.
>
> Buyer, a single man, understands that the aircraft/vehicle being purchase
d
> has been constructed by non-professionals from non-certified parts and
> materials, that there has not and never will be any certification of
> "airworthiness" by any government agency or other authority. Buyer
> acknowledges that hidden defects may exist in this or any aircraft, and
> that an independent inspection by a qualified person is the right and
> responsibility of the buyer. Buyer also understands that while the curren
t
> regulations may not require any certification or training to fly
> aircraft/vehicles of this type, adequate training is an absolutely
> essential in order to safely operate this machine. Buyer also understands
> that ultra-light aircraft/vehicles have distinct flying characteristics
> different from those of general aviation aircraft. Buyer promises to secu
re
> the requisite ultra-light specific training prior to attempting any fligh
t
> with this aircraft. Buyer agrees that there is no warranty, express,
> written or implied. Buyer releases, forever discharges and holds seller
> harmless from any and all claims, demands, damages, actions, causes of
> action, or suits for all injuries, losses, and damages to buyer or others
> resulting from use or operation of this ultra-light aircraft/vehicle. Buy
er
> further indemnifies seller for any and all claims, demands, damages,
> actions, causes of action or suits for injuries, losses and damages to
> buyer or others resulting from or arising out of use or operation of this
> ultra-light aircraft/vehicle. Buyer, a single man, agrees that this
> purchase agreement and liability release is binding upon his heirs and
> assigns or any future spouse as well and that the terms of this release a
re
> contractual and not mere recital. Buyer declares and represents that no
> promise, inducement or other agreement, not expressed in this document ha
s
> been made to the Buyer concerning the condition, flight characteristics o
r
> operation of this ultra-light aircraft/vehicle and that this agreement
> contains the entire between the Buyer and Seller.
>
> Buyer=92s signature_______________________ Seller=92s
> signature_____________________
>
> Date:____________________ Date:_____________________
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Tim Bjork <tdbjork@gmail.com> <tdbjork@gmail.com>
> *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Wed, May 1, 2013 2:29:21 PM
> *Subject:* Kolb-List: Release Form
>
> Hi Guys, I think I have my Kolb FireStar 11 sold and would like to have
> the buyer sign some kind of document that basically releases me of all
> reliability of this aircraft. What I have now is nothing so anything woul
d
> be better then that. so please send me what you have to my e-mail.
> tdbjork@gmail.com
>
> Thanks in advance,,, Tim
>
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| Subject: | 4/27/13 Kolbra video |
Laurie and I took a flight last Saturday to Hutchinson for the fun of it. Here
is the video we took:
http://youtu.be/CZgjNEI7tR8
Ralph B
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000+ hours
26 years flying it
Kolbra 912ULS
N20386
200 hours
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| Subject: | Re: 4/27/13 Kolbra video |
Nice Flight Video !
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
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| Subject: | New Kolb Firestar II frameless Canopy |
Wind Blast and Bird Strike protection made from 3/16" Makrolon.
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
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| Subject: | Two place intercoms |
Looking for opinions on intercoms others are using. I may have a problem with
my Rugged radio intercom I recently purchased to use with my Icom A6, if I find
the problem is not in the Icom patch cord, I'm going to return the intercom
and try something else.
Thanks
Denny Skid Rowe
Mk3, 616DR
Western PA
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| Subject: | Re: Two place intercoms |
I am using the sigtronics spo22N the N model is for the high noise
environment,,, it has an extra resistor inline to help keep the high
background noise at a lower level... but can make it harder to hear than
the spo 22 with the N model I have to have the mikes almost touching my
lips in order to make the vox system work. that way the speech to noise
level is at a better ratio.
boyd young
Subject: Kolb-List: Two place intercoms
Looking for opinions on intercoms others are using. I may have a problem
with my Rugged radio intercom I recently purchased to use with my Icom A6,
if I find the problem is not in the Icom patch cord, I'm going to return the
intercom and try something else.
Thanks
Denny Skid Rowe
Mk3, 616DR
Western PA
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