Kolb-List Digest Archive

Sat 05/11/13


Total Messages Posted: 24



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     1. 02:12 AM - Re: Firestar II stall speed... ()
     2. 03:51 AM - Re: Firestar II stall speed... (Pat Ladd)
     3. 05:10 AM - Kolbra rides (Ralph B)
     4. 05:27 AM - Re: Kolbra rides (william sullivan)
     5. 05:51 AM - Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. (Thom Riddle)
     6. 05:59 AM - Going! Gone! (herb)
     7. 05:59 AM - Re: Firestar II stall speed... (Larlaeb)
     8. 08:41 AM - 5/10/13 Kolbra video (Ralph B)
     9. 10:12 AM - Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. (Arizona Flyer)
    10. 10:32 AM - Re: Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. (Gary Aman)
    11. 10:39 AM - Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. ()
    12. 10:40 AM - Re: Firestar II stall speed... (Gary Aman)
    13. 10:43 AM - Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. ()
    14. 10:53 AM - Re: Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. (Beauford)
    15. 11:01 AM - Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. (Thom Riddle)
    16. 12:09 PM - Private message (Mike Welch)
    17. 12:23 PM - Re: Private message (Matt Dralle)
    18. 01:16 PM - Checking the river (Larry Cottrell)
    19. 02:06 PM - Re: Going! Gone! (Eugene Zimmerman)
    20. 03:14 PM - Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. (Arizona Flyer)
    21. 03:46 PM - Re: Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. (Dennis Rowe)
    22. 03:56 PM - Re: Going! Gone! (Dennis Rowe)
    23. 07:02 PM - Re: Going! Gone! (Eugene Zimmerman)
    24. 08:41 PM - Calling Ja biru 2200 and Mk III Xtra owners (Frankd)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:12:20 AM PST US
    From: <aoldman@xtra.co.nz>
    Subject: Re: Firestar II stall speed...
    Sorry for sounding like a SA but all this talk about bending gear legs.. I have several hundred hours in a MK111c and have never bent anything . The only person that bent the legs on my MK111 was a GA pilot ,the sudden stop flying just above the ground took him by surprise. These aircraft are very predictable and forgiving . If you have little experience on the Kolb do your long finals at 5o mph under power. If you flare between 45 =93 40 mph solo and very close to the ground { within 12 inches } then cut the power with a little back pressure on the stick you will arrive safely. Speed will disappear very rapidly once you flare . If the tail end hits first then you have too much back pressure on the stick. The more load you carry and or the slower you flare the more back pressure required . The shortest landings you will get will be slow with the stick well back . I always do this with some power on, that way if it goes wrong you can vacate/abort without hurting anything. Sorry this information is not for a firestar as I have no experience with them. Reading the posts to would appear that they handle very much the same as the Mk111 . I just do not understand all the negative talk about the aluminum gear legs. I do concede that the airport I mostly use is grass and very firm. I only use the sealed runways for take offs . The only reason I make this post is to point out that while the aluminum legs may not be as strong as some of the steel ones they are still capable of a fair amount of punishment without bending, I believe I have put this to the test over the years. Regards Tony { Downunder } MK111c From: Richard Girard Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 2:01 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar II stall speed... Travis, one the world's best people, clued my in after I had become dear friends with Mr. Hydraulic Press while straightening main gear legs. Wheel land, wheel land, wheel land. It's that simple. Don't even try for a full stall landing, just wheel it on. Rick Girard On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 8:00 AM, frank goodnight <frank.goodnight@att.net> wrote: Hi , Not trying to be a smart alec or a know it all. I believe that most pilots would agree when flying a new --to you -- airplane alone and for the first time one should at least go and do a couple of approach stalls before the first landing that way no surprises . Even then it's hard to believe how fast a firestar will drop out from under you with low power and low airspeed.Good luck , landing a fire star does get very easy after a while. Frank Firestar 2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: Arizona Flyer <heracesthesun@yahoo.com> To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Thu, May 9, 2013 3:32:43 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar II stall speed... <heracesthesun@yahoo.com> I bought a pre owned Firestar II and all my research indicated a 30mph stall speed. I was shocked on my first landing at my short airstrip when it dropped from about 4ft. and bounced hard yikes! No damage but I approached at 42mph and backed it off just before the runway threshold, a quick glance showed 36mph right before it stalled which would be 35mph. My Firestar log book list the weight at 419 lbs. I am so fortunate I was not higher when this happened. This makes me concerned for other new Firestar pilots who may also experience this somewhat dangerous surprise with a 30mph stall speed in mind. I would have never tried to slow it down so much on a longer runway but I had to for the short strip. On the next 3 landings I kept 42mph approach and 40mph at threshold and held that get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx


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    Time: 03:51:09 AM PST US
    From: "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Firestar II stall speed...
    Wheel land, wheel land, wheel land>> Huh? Why? The object of landing is to stop flying (stall) when you touch the ground.. Everyone can remember their instructor saying `Hold it off, hold it off` I have never done a wheelie or even landed with any more than minimum power. What is the point? One day your engine will lose power and you will have to land in a small field. Treat every landing as a practice for that occasion. I always throttled right back as soon as I had the field made. Push the nose down a tad to maintain speed, clear the hedge by the minimum safety margin, flare just above the ground and keep pulling back as the speed decays.That way you are moving at the slowest possible speed when your wheels touch. That takes the sting out of any possible rough ground, ruts, tussocks etc. If you bang the tail down first sort out your trim. the plane should not be in that configuration. I realise that this is all assuming perfect conditions. You may wish to carry more speed in gusty conditions but that is airmanship not basic piloting skill. Use VG`s. in spite of some opinions on the list, they work. If they did not there would be no Mk 3s flying in the UK as without the reduction in stalling speed they afford the plane would not have passed our specification. Cheers Pat


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    Time: 05:10:25 AM PST US
    Subject: Kolbra rides
    From: "Ralph B" <rstar447@gmail.com>
    I had a fun day yesterday giving rides to my daughter and granddaughter. Ralph B -------- Ralph B Original Firestar 447 N91493 E-AB 1000+ hours 26 years flying it Kolbra 912ULS N20386 200 hours Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400326#400326 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/autumn_123.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/jackie_and_autumn_612.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/jackie_122.jpg


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    Time: 05:27:14 AM PST US
    From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Kolbra rides
    - Looks like she can't stop grinning. do not archive. --- On Sat, 5/11/13, Ralph B <rstar447@gmail.com> wrote: From: Ralph B <rstar447@gmail.com> Subject: Kolb-List: Kolbra rides I had a fun day yesterday giving rides to my daughter and granddaughter. Ralph B -------- Ralph B Original Firestar 447 N91493 E-AB 1000+ hours 26 years flying it Kolbra 912ULS N20386 200 hours Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400326#400326 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/autumn_123.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/jackie_and_autumn_612.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/jackie_122.jpg le, List Admin.


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    Time: 05:51:12 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Stripped threads on tail nut.
    From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr@gmail.com>
    ...I went a grade above AN and went with stainless steel... Stainless Steel hardware is NOT a grade above AN hardware. http://www.sportair.com/articles/Aircraft%20Hardware%20-%20What%20You%20Need%20To%20Know.html -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Don't worry about old age... it doesn't last very long. - Anonymous Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400333#400333


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    Time: 05:59:16 AM PST US
    From: herb <herbgh@nctc.com>
    Subject: Going! Gone!
    Hey Thom Where is my finders fee? Chatted with Sam last evening...said he bought your Slingshot.... Next time I am in Buffalo...I expect several items from the dollar menu!! :-) Herb


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    Time: 05:59:52 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Firestar II stall speed...
    From: "Larlaeb" <larlaeb@gmail.com>
    Surely there is a place for both types of landings and both should be practiced. I certainly agree with you that getting in the habit of dragging in under power is dangerous but I also think that wheel landings can provide more margin for error in high wind, gusty or other conditions that require a little more control. In my experience being able to paste the wheels down when you want with good rudder control can really help. I don't think that takes away from the need to setup to 'make the runway' and be practiced in making landings with no power. Thanks, Allan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400334#400334


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    Time: 08:41:37 AM PST US
    Subject: 5/10/13 Kolbra video
    From: "Ralph B" <rstar447@gmail.com>
    http://youtu.be/2UuhVROqNYE Ralph B -------- Ralph B Original Firestar 447 N91493 E-AB 1000+ hours 26 years flying it Kolbra 912ULS N20386 200 hours Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400344#400344


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    Time: 10:12:06 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Stripped threads on tail nut.
    From: "Arizona Flyer" <heracesthesun@yahoo.com>
    Regular AN steel bolts and AN stainless steel bolts are of the same hardness & strength, however stainless steel has added corrosion protection listed as 'corrosion resistant' In my opinion that IS a 'grade above' regular AN although my comment may have implied to some that I felt stainless steel was stronger. I posted something in the interest of safety by checking the tail wire bolt for wore threads and all you can do is pick on my 'grade above' comment? Sheez what a disappointment with a new member on only his second post, I hope you are the exception rather than the standard here... -------- &quot;Life should be lived as a bold adventure, I refuse to tiptoe through life just to arrive safely at death&quot; Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400350#400350


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    Time: 10:32:14 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Stripped threads on tail nut.
    From: Gary Aman <zeprep251@aol.com>
    I wind down pretty hard on my wing nut and had told the list that I had no problems with it for close to 800 hrs.Well, my apologies to the list,I stri pped it last Monday.The bolt seems good and I have had a spare wing nut for years.No longer have a spare,and I fold it every time while down south for the winter so I want to keep it quick or I'd find an excuse to not fly it. Probably a good idea to use an AN nut IF you don't fold it on a regular bas is and you like the wires bow string tight. G.Aman MK3C Jabiru 2200A 800 hrs -----Original Message----- From: Arizona Flyer <heracesthesun@yahoo.com> Sent: Sat, May 11, 2013 1:12 pm Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. Regular AN steel bolts and AN stainless steel bolts are of the same hardnes s & strength, however stainless steel has added corrosion protection listed as 'corrosion resistant' In my opinion that IS a 'grade above' regular AN alth ough my comment may have implied to some that I felt stainless steel was stronge r. I posted something in the interest of safety by checking the tail wire bolt f or wore threads and all you can do is pick on my 'grade above' comment? Sheez what a disappointment with a new member on only his second post, I hope you are the exception rather than the standard here... -------- &quot;Life should be lived as a bold adventure, I refuse to tiptoe through life just to arrive safely at death&quot; Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400350#400350


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    Time: 10:39:39 AM PST US
    From: <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Stripped threads on tail nut.
    --> <heracesthesun@yahoo.com> Regular AN steel bolts and AN stainless steel bolts are of the same hardness & strength, however stainless steel has added corrosion protection listed as 'corrosion resistant' In my opinion that IS a 'grade above' regular AN although my comment may have implied to some that I felt stainless steel was stronger. I posted something in the interest of safety by checking the tail wire bolt for wore threads and all you can do is pick on my 'grade above' comment? Sheez what a disappointment with a new member on only his second post, I hope you are the exception rather than the standard here... AZ Fly/Kolbers: Don't be so sensitive. We are all entitled to our own opinion, right or wrong. If someone on the Kolb List sees something that isn't quite kosher, or a way to make something work better or safer, we expect them to speak up. I use only AN hardware, especially in critical, load bearing situations like the tail wires. For Kolb tail wires I use only AN nyloc nuts, not AN wing nuts. The reason I use a nyloc intead of wing nut is the bolt is used in stress, rather than shear. Don't believe the wingnut was intended to be used in stress. I may be wrong, but I don't use them. I also insert the lower tailwire bolt from left to right, looking at the tailpost from the rear. This way the nyloc nut will be tightened rather than loosened when landing/taking off/taxiing through tall grass, brush, weeds, etc. My first off field landing in Alaska in 1994, on an old dirt strip called Sparky, in my MKIII, nearly resulted in a disaster, when the Alder bushes that covered the abandoned strip unscrewed the nyloc nut on my lower tailwire bolt. I had inserted the bolt from right to left. While I am at it, the only way to know what the stall speed of an aircraft is is to stall it. That should be done at a safe altitude and note on approach. john h mkIII Mobile, Alabama


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    Time: 10:40:45 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Firestar II stall speed...
    From: Gary Aman <zeprep251@aol.com>
    Amen Pat. do not archive -----Original Message----- From: Pat Ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> Sent: Sat, May 11, 2013 6:51 am Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar II stall speed... Wheel land, wheel land, wheel land>> Huh? Why? The object of landing is to stop flying (stall) when you touch the ground. . Everyone can remember their instructor saying `Hold it off, hold it off` I have never done a wheelie or even landed with any more than minimum power . What is the point? One day your engine will lose power and you will have to land in a small field. Treat every landing as a practice for that occas ion. I always throttled right back as soon as I had the field made. Push the no se down a tad to maintain speed, clear the hedge by the minimum safety marg in, flare just above the ground and keep pulling back as the speed decays.T hat way you are moving at the slowest possible speed when your wheels touch . That takes the sting out of any possible rough ground, ruts, tussocks etc . If you bang the tail down first sort out your trim. the plane should not be in that configuration. I realise that this is all assuming perfect conditions. You may wish to car ry more speed in gusty conditions but that is airmanship not basic piloting skill. Use VG`s. in spite of some opinions on the list, they work. If they did not there would be no Mk 3s flying in the UK as without the reduction in stall ing speed they afford the plane would not have passed our specification. Cheers Pat


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    Time: 10:43:13 AM PST US
    From: <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Stripped threads on tail nut.
    I wind down pretty hard on my wing nut and had told the list that I had no problems with it for close to 800 hrs.Well, my apologies to the list,I stripped it last Monday.The bolt seems good and I have had a spare wing nut for years.No longer have a spare,and I fold it every time while down south for the winter so I want to keep it quick or I'd find an excuse to not fly it.Probably a good idea to use an AN nut IF you don't fold it on a regular basis and you like the wires bow string tight. G.Aman MK3C Jabiru 2200A 800 hrs Gary A/Kolbers: Doesn't take any longer to screw on a 3/6 nyloc than a wing nut. You can use a nut driver to do it. Even if you need to change nuts every 4 or 5 flights, that is still money well spent. john h mkIII Mobile, Alabama


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    Time: 10:53:32 AM PST US
    From: "Beauford " <beauford173@tampabay.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Stripped threads on tail nut.
    -----Original Message----- Sheez what a disappointment with a new member on only his second post, I hope you are the exception rather than the standard here... ------------------------------------------------------------------ Brother Arizona: You did not specify AN stainless in your original post... you merely said "stainless"... which could have been from Harbor Freight. Remember, we don't know you yet....and we don't know what you don't know. As I see it, the response from Brother Riddle was clearly out of concern for your safety and to inform others who might not know the facts...not to pick on you, sir. Stop whining. ;-) Welcome to the List.... There is a wealth of good info on here and some really good folks...You're gonna love it. Worth what ye paid fer it.... beauford FF-076 Brandon, FL Do not archive --------


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    Time: 11:01:45 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Stripped threads on tail nut.
    From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr@gmail.com>
    Arizona Flyer, In your original post you did not state AN Stainless, only stainless. There are a lot of folks who are not aware of the big differences in hardware that meets the aircraft quality standards and hardware store hardware, whether stainless or not. Since you are new to the list those of us who have been here awhile don't know your level of knowledge. This is an important safety of flight issue that deserves to be treated seriously. I am sorry if you were offended. That was not my intention. Perhaps you could tell the list a bit about yourself including your actual name. For what its worth, I have been a private pilot since 1966 and mechanic since 1972 and have owned 3 Kolbs, and several other airplanes over the years. I was also a sport pilot instructor but am not current in that role. Thom in Buffalo https://sites.google.com/site/riddletr/a&pmechanix -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Don't worry about old age... it doesn't last very long. - Anonymous Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400358#400358


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    Time: 12:09:12 PM PST US
    From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Private message
    Kolbers, I got a Matronics notification of a private message yesterday, but for the life of me, I can't seem to log on to Matronics to check the message. I can't remember my username and or original password.tried about a hundred+ different combinations. I got a temporary password, but still can't seem to get the old username right. Soooo. whoever it was that sent me a private message, try again at: mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com Thanks!! Mike Welch


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    Time: 12:23:40 PM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Re: Private message
    Mike, I'm not finding the email address "mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com" in the forums database to look up your username. Is it possible that you used a different email address? What do you recall your username is? Matt Dralle Matronics List Admin At 12:08 PM 5/11/2013 Saturday, you wrote: > >Kolbers, > > I got a Matronics notification of a private message yesterday, but for the life of me, I can't seem to log on to >Matronics to check the message. I can't remember my username and or original password=85.tried about >a hundred+ different combinations. I got a temporary password, but still can't seem to get the old username right. > > Soooo. whoever it was that sent me a private message, try again at: mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com > >Thanks!! > >Mike Welch Matt G Dralle | Matronics | 581 Jeannie Way | Livermore | CA | 94550 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft


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    Time: 01:16:53 PM PST US
    Subject: Checking the river
    From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
    The weather has been a lot nicer and I was curious if the River was suitable for fishing. I have a bunch of stuff to do so I didn't want to waste an entire day if it was not worth the trip, so I rolled out the Firestar to check it out. I have included an attachment of my Spot readout of the trip. There has been some discussion by some new Kolb owners about landings in Kolbs, so I took the liberty of showing a couple so that they could see for themselves how easy they are, if you follow a couple of rules. While I am not and apparently never will be a qualified expert on anything other than what not to do when landing, I hope that this will help somewhat. The main problem with landing that most folks run into is underestimating the amount of drag compared to a GA plane, and over controlling. I am running an HKS and I cruise at 53-5400 RPMs I will admit that out here in the desert the first thing that goes out of the window for me is "pattern altitude". When I am landing I do not cut the power to idle until I can make the runway. Once I am in a position to hit the spot that I want, I cut the power to idle, and allow the plane to sink. If I am too high I can slip it or increase the angle of ascent, which ever is your wish. It is draggy enough that unlike a GA plane it does not take up that much room to again achieve your landing speed . Once I cut power, I allow the plane to sink onto the ground, maintaining 50 MPH. The biggest problem that you will have is over controlling. If you flare too soon, you had better be hitting some power. I try to use only my finger tips, as I have a tendency to be a bit "ham handed". In the video you can tell when I cut power as the screen begins a "harmonic distortion". The one thing to always avoid is trying to extend your landing. If you don't like where you are going, give it a bit of throttle, it is not going to keep floating by pulling back on the stick. Good luck! https://vimeo.com/65971366 password "owyheeflyer" Larry Cottrell -- *If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email address before sending.*


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    Time: 02:06:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Going! Gone!
    From: Eugene Zimmerman <etzimm@gmail.com>
    Hey guys, Spring fly-in at Sams's place Sat May 18 Hope to see you there. Gene Z On May 11, 2013, at 8:59 AM, herb wrote: > > Hey Thom > > Where is my finders fee? Chatted with Sam last evening...said he bought your Slingshot.... > > Next time I am in Buffalo...I expect several items from the dollar menu!! :-) Herb > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 03:14:43 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Stripped threads on tail nut.
    From: "Arizona Flyer" <heracesthesun@yahoo.com>
    Thom Riddle; You are correct Sir, I apologize. Looking back at my comment now, I can see where it looks like I ditched AN bolt and went with stainless steel bolt instead. I should have said AN stainless steel, my fault and I'm glad now that you pointed it out. It caused me enough concern to spend an hour researching AN steel bolt vs. AN stainless steel bolt and I got a good education about the difference and I thank you for that. I have been on forums where some guys love to be critical and pick apart everything others say to feed their ego and feel superior and I have a low tolerance for them. I mistakenly thought you might be one of them and realize now you are not. Thanks for the kind reply... Peace... My name is Jeff Jacobsen, I used to live in Lake Geneva Wisconsin on 18 acres with a private grass airstrip and large hangar. In my flying days there I had in progression a Quicksilver Sprint II, then a Quicksilver Sport, then an Advanced Aviation Buccaneer SX amphibian, then a Rans S-12, then built an Avid Flyer Mark IV with a Stratus Subaru engine, finally a Rans S-7 Courier that I loved but sold in 2002. I flew so much that I wore it out, the 'magic' was gone and I did not like that so I decided to take some years off from flying. In 2006 I retired and moved to the southern Arizona town of Casa Grande. I have 40 acres by the mountains and fly RC airplanes a lot. I figured the itch to get back into the sky would hit me someday and 2 years ago I took a ride in a trike, and that wonderful feeling of ultimate freedom & peace came over me again and was re-hooked, I had been away from flying for 11 years and the magic was finally back. 3 weeks ago I took delivery of a beautiful yellow Firestar II expertly built by Gary Aman. I just got off the phone with Gary for 2 hours and he was most generous and helpful. Thanks John Hauck for the input here. I may be too sensitive at times but I hate forum bullies and come down hard on them, I was wrong this time. Thom was right, my mistake may have led to some newer p! ilot goi ng down to the hardware store or boat shop for a stainless steel bolt that is not AN! SAFETY FIRST, always! -------- &quot;Life should be lived as a bold adventure, I refuse to tiptoe through life just to arrive safely at death&quot; Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400380#400380


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    Time: 03:46:40 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Stripped threads on tail nut.
    From: Dennis Rowe <rowedenny@windstream.net>
    Castle nut and safety ring. Done. :-) just sayin Skid Rowe On May 11, 2013, at 1:43 PM, <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote: > > I wind down pretty hard on my wing nut and had told the list that I had no problems with it for close to 800 hrs.Well, my apologies to the list,I stripped it last Monday.The bolt seems good and I have had a spare wing nut for years.No longer have a spare,and I fold it every time while down south for the winter so I want to keep it quick or I'd find an excuse to not fly it.Probably a good idea to use an AN nut IF you don't fold it on a regular basis and you like the wires bow string tight. > G.Aman MK3C Jabiru 2200A 800 hrs > > > Gary A/Kolbers: > > Doesn't take any longer to screw on a 3/6 nyloc than a wing nut. You can use a nut driver to do it. Even if you need to change nuts every 4 or 5 flights, that is still money well spent. > > john h > mkIII > Mobile, Alabama > > > >


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    Time: 03:56:21 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Going! Gone!
    From: Dennis Rowe <rowedenny@windstream.net>
    Where's SAMs place, somebody bought a nice Slingshot, Skid Rowe On May 11, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Eugene Zimmerman <etzimm@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hey guys, > Spring fly-in at Sams's place Sat May 18 > Hope to see you there. > > Gene Z > > > > > > > On May 11, 2013, at 8:59 AM, herb wrote: > >> >> Hey Thom >> >> Where is my finders fee? Chatted with Sam last evening...said he bought your Slingshot.... >> >> Next time I am in Buffalo...I expect several items from the dollar menu!! :-) Herb > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:02:07 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Going! Gone!
    From: Eugene Zimmerman <etzimm@gmail.com>
    100 Plane View Drive Belleville,Pa 17004 40degrees 33'24 N 077 degrees'4836 W On May 11, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Dennis Rowe wrote: > > Where's SAMs place, somebody bought a nice Slingshot, > > > Skid Rowe > > > On May 11, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Eugene Zimmerman <etzimm@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Hey guys, >> Spring fly-in at Sams's place Sat May 18 >> Hope to see you there. >> >> Gene Z >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On May 11, 2013, at 8:59 AM, herb wrote: >> >>> >>> Hey Thom >>> >>> Where is my finders fee? Chatted with Sam last evening...said he bought your Slingshot.... >>> >>> Next time I am in Buffalo...I expect several items from the dollar menu!! :-) Herb >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >


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    Time: 08:41:27 PM PST US
    Subject: Calling Ja biru 2200 and Mk III Xtra owners
    From: "Frankd" <FDucker@aol.com>
    Hello Kolb list This is Frankd and I need advise. I've 45Hours on my MkIII Xtra with a Jabiru 2200 and enjoying flying nearly every weekend.. GREAT to own your own plane.. I'm fully signed off by the FAA, and can go anywhere. Now, its been HOT here in CA (Hollister) and I'm getting a hot engine running at 325-330 DegF in cruise and 335 or higher in climb. I tried to increase my airscoop on the left side to ram air over the cylinders but it did not help. Now, I'm flying on 80+ deg days... The obvious answer is "Don't fly on hot days" or get a water cooled 912... But I'm stubborn and would like to ask the forum for tips from the Jabiru guys.. I have added an oil cooler that keeps the oil at 180DegF, Great. I'll love to get the CHT down to 310 DegF in cruise. Got suggestions? BTW, RickG .. Wonderful advise on new potential owners of MkIIXtras I had an older model, high angle of attack and wrong incidence on the tail on my first flight.. Nearly killed me!! Changed to lower incidence and steel legs and still can land on my tail wheel first. but on purpose.. Love it when we all pool our experience.. Hope I can attach pics FrankD MkiiiXtra 1014S 45Hrs and climbing.. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400400#400400 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/engine_right_airscoope2_966.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/engine_air_scoops1_321.jpg




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