Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 01:33 AM - Re: Checking the river ()
2. 09:37 AM - Re: Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. (Richard Girard)
3. 09:47 AM - Re: Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. (Richard Girard)
4. 10:00 AM - Re: Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. (John Hauck)
5. 10:40 AM - Re: Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. (Larry Cottrell)
6. 11:50 AM - 377 prop (chris davis)
7. 12:11 PM - Re: 377 prop (Dennis Rowe)
8. 12:19 PM - Re: 377 prop (Dennis Rowe)
9. 01:38 PM - Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. (Arizona Flyer)
10. 02:31 PM - Re: 377 prop (John Hauck)
11. 02:34 PM - 2013 Kolb Homecoming (John Hauck)
12. 02:44 PM - Re: 377 prop (Dana Hague)
13. 04:02 PM - 5 rib firestar (gyrodude)
14. 04:39 PM - Re: 377 prop (chris davis)
15. 04:45 PM - Re: 377 prop (chris davis)
16. 05:01 PM - Re: 5 rib firestar (Ralph B)
17. 05:21 PM - Re: Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. (kinne russ)
18. 05:33 PM - Re: Checking the river (Brad Nation)
19. 05:34 PM - Re: 5 rib firestar (chris davis)
20. 05:42 PM - Re: 2013 Kolb Homecoming (Rick Lewis)
21. 05:43 PM - Re: Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. (Dana Hague)
22. 05:52 PM - Re: Re: 2013 Kolb Homecoming (John Hauck)
23. 06:00 PM - Re: Re: 2013 Kolb Homecoming (John Hauck)
24. 06:08 PM - Re: 2013 Kolb Homecoming (Rick Lewis)
25. 06:26 PM - Re: 2013 Kolb Homecoming (Dennis Rowe)
26. 07:06 PM - Re: 2013 Kolb Homecoming (John Hauck)
27. 07:38 PM - Re: 377 prop (wakataka)
28. 07:45 PM - Re: 5 rib firestar (joepilot503)
29. 10:08 PM - Re: 377 prop (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com)
Message 1
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: Checking the river |
I love those vidio=99s. I guess the river was good for fishing
..The trees here are the same colour , it will be some time before they
are green again
Regards
Downunder
MK111c
From: Larry Cottrell
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 8:16 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Checking the river
The weather has been a lot nicer and I was curious if the River was
suitable for fishing. I have a bunch of stuff to do so I didn't want to
waste an entire day if it was not worth the trip, so I rolled out the
Firestar to check it out. I have included an attachment of my Spot
readout of the trip.
There has been some discussion by some new Kolb owners about landings in
Kolbs, so I took the liberty of showing a couple so that they could see
for themselves how easy they are, if you follow a couple of rules. While
I am not and apparently never will be a qualified expert on anything
other than what not to do when landing, I hope that this will help
somewhat.
The main problem with landing that most folks run into is
underestimating the amount of drag compared to a GA plane, and over
controlling. I am running an HKS and I cruise at 53-5400 RPMs I will
admit that out here in the desert the first thing that goes out of the
window for me is "pattern altitude". When I am landing I do not cut the
power to idle until I can make the runway. Once I am in a position to
hit the spot that I want, I cut the power to idle, and allow the plane
to sink. If I am too high I can slip it or increase the angle of ascent,
which ever is your wish. It is draggy enough that unlike a GA plane it
does not take up that much room to again achieve your landing speed .
Once I cut power, I allow the plane to sink onto the ground, maintaining
50 MPH. The biggest problem that you will have is over controlling. If
you flare too soon, you had better be hitting some power. I try to use
only my finger tips, as I have a tendency to be a bit "ham handed". In
the video you can tell when I cut power as the screen begins a "harmonic
distortion". The one thing to always avoid is trying to extend your
landing. If you don't like where you are going, give it a bit of
throttle, it is not going to keep floating by pulling back on the stick.
Good luck!
https://vimeo.com/65971366 password "owyheeflyer"
Larry Cottrell
--
If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email
address before sending.
Message 2
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
No moderator here, folks. However, I would echo our hosts request that the
phrase, "Do not archive" be put on non technical discussions so at not to
clog the forum's servers.
Rick Girard
do not archive
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Arizona Flyer <heracesthesun@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> Thom, no right side, no photos. Just regular typing in the 'post reply'
> window and when the paragraph gets long enough it starts overlapping words
> at the top, then eventually it goes all the way to the bottom where I'm
> typing new words and I can no longer see what I'm typing. When that happens
> I write my comment out in my e-mail system then copy & paste it here in a
> new window that I cleared. It works well but I'd rather figure out what's
> going on here. Maybe a moderator will see this and offer help. I have not
> seen a 'contact moderator' button anywhere here to ask for help. No big
> deal just a minor annoyance. Thanks...
>
> --------
> "Life should be lived as a bold adventure, I refuse to tiptoe through life
> just to arrive safely at death"
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400420#400420
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
Message 3
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
John. Doesn't installing the bolt from right to left as seen from the rear
put the threads in a position such that grass hitting the bottom of the nut
would work to loosen it, assuming a standard righty tighty thread?
Rick Girard
do not archive
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 3:20 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> If the threads can become stripped on such a safety key component, I'd
> suggest using a slightly longer AN bolt and use two nuts and either Nylock
> or I like castle nuts and a cotter pin. Or both.. That way there is twice
> the grip area on the bolt.
>
> I have noticed that my tangs have bent out from the bolt or nut head and
> maybe a washer would help retain the original bend point.
> I never thought about grass unwinding the nut, but I'm going to put my new
> bolt in left to right... Tkx John.
>
> FrankD
> MkiiiXtra
>
>
> Frank D/Kolbers:
>
> If installed correctly, not over torqued, the 3/16 AN bolt and nut will not
> strip using a nyloc nut. Most AN 3/16 nuts that strip threads are because
> they are tightened all the way down to the end of the threads and are
> bottomed out and over torqued.
>
> Important to insure the wire tangs are bent to mirror the angle of the wire
> and the tube surface they are being tightened against. Most Kolb wire
> tangs
> I see in my travels are not bent correctly and tail wires are too loose.
>
> I personally believe any type wire safety device, hair pin, ring, etc., are
> prone to failure when operated in any environment other than a groomed
> grass
> strip or paved airstrip. I have put a lot of hours on factory Kolbs
> configured exactly like the plans and instructions call for, but I was not
> flying off unimproved strips or taxiing in tall grass, weeds, brush, etc.,
> where the device could be damaged and/or pulled off.
>
> My MKIII is very heavy, especially on the tail. I keep the tail wires
> "banjo" tight. Kolbs, all models, fly much better with tight tail wires
> than with loose wires. Never had an AN 3/16 nyloc nut fail or strip
> threads. Again, I did come close to a catastrophic tail wire failure when
> alder brush backed off the nyloc to within a couple threads. If you use
> nylocs on the bottom tail wire bolt, be sure and insert right to left as
> viewed from the rear, so the nut with be tightened rather than loosened.
>
> john h
> MKIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
Message 4
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
Thanks for correcting me. Left to right is what I should have said.
Doesn't pay to post when overly tired, does it.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Girard
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Stripped threads on tail nut.
John. Doesn't installing the bolt from right to left as seen from the rear
put the threads in a position such that grass hitting the bottom of the nut
would work to loosen it, assuming a standard righty tighty thread?
Rick Girard
do not archive
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 3:20 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
If the threads can become stripped on such a safety key component, I'd
suggest using a slightly longer AN bolt and use two nuts and either Nylock
or I like castle nuts and a cotter pin. Or both.. That way there is twice
the grip area on the bolt.
I have noticed that my tangs have bent out from the bolt or nut head and
maybe a washer would help retain the original bend point.
I never thought about grass unwinding the nut, but I'm going to put my new
bolt in left to right... Tkx John.
FrankD
MkiiiXtra
Frank D/Kolbers:
If installed correctly, not over torqued, the 3/16 AN bolt and nut will not
strip using a nyloc nut. Most AN 3/16 nuts that strip threads are because
they are tightened all the way down to the end of the threads and are
bottomed out and over torqued.
Important to insure the wire tangs are bent to mirror the angle of the wire
and the tube surface they are being tightened against. Most Kolb wire tangs
I see in my travels are not bent correctly and tail wires are too loose.
I personally believe any type wire safety device, hair pin, ring, etc., are
prone to failure when operated in any environment other than a groomed grass
strip or paved airstrip. I have put a lot of hours on factory Kolbs
configured exactly like the plans and instructions call for, but I was not
flying off unimproved strips or taxiing in tall grass, weeds, brush, etc.,
where the device could be damaged and/or pulled off.
My MKIII is very heavy, especially on the tail. I keep the tail wires
"banjo" tight. Kolbs, all models, fly much better with tight tail wires
than with loose wires. Never had an AN 3/16 nyloc nut fail or strip
threads. Again, I did come close to a catastrophic tail wire failure when
alder brush backed off the nyloc to within a couple threads. If you use
nylocs on the bottom tail wire bolt, be sure and insert right to left as
viewed from the rear, so the nut with be tightened rather than loosened.
john h
MKIII
Titus, Alabama
==========
arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
==========
http://forums.matronics.com
==========
le, List Admin.
="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
==========
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
Message 5
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
Wouldn't it be easier if Matt would turn it the other way around and make
it so that we would have to request it be archived if the one who posted,
thought that it might be of importance???? Its got a much better chance of
happening. It wouldn't be so bad if one could make a "signature" that would
work on just the one email address. I feel kind of silly having that at the
bottom of ever email I send. Just saying!
Larry
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>wrote:
> No moderator here, folks. However, I would echo our hosts request that the
> phrase, "Do not archive" be put on non technical discussions so at not to
> clog the forum's servers.
>
> Rick Girard
> do not archive
>
>
> On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Arizona Flyer <heracesthesun@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> >
>>
>> Thom, no right side, no photos. Just regular typing in the 'post reply'
>> window and when the paragraph gets long enough it starts overlapping words
>> at the top, then eventually it goes all the way to the bottom where I'm
>> typing new words and I can no longer see what I'm typing. When that happens
>> I write my comment out in my e-mail system then copy & paste it here in a
>> new window that I cleared. It works well but I'd rather figure out what's
>> going on here. Maybe a moderator will see this and offer help. I have not
>> seen a 'contact moderator' button anywhere here to ask for help. No big
>> deal just a minor annoyance. Thanks...
>>
>> --------
>> "Life should be lived as a bold adventure, I refuse to tiptoe through
>> life just to arrive safely at death"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400420#400420
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ==========
>> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
>> ==========
>> http://forums.matronics.com
>> ==========
>> le, List Admin.
>> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>> ==========
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Zulu Delta
> Mk IIIC
> Thanks, Homer GBYM
>
> It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
> - Groucho Marx
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
--
*If you forward this email, or any part of it, please remove my email
address before sending.*
Message 6
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Kolbers , Old timers? What prop would anyone choose for a Firefly with a 37
7 b-box 2.58 to 1 I have choices when buying I can take any one of these 2
blade props ---54X27----58X28----60X28 I am leaning towards the 60X28 think
ing if its too much i could take some length out? Thanks -in advance -I
know its old but so am I, lol, some of you guys must have had a 377 ? Chri
s=0A-=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from cras
h building Firefly
Message 7
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Chris,
Going buy my experience with 30hp Cuyuna engines and 2 to 1 belt drives, the
60 x 28 sounds close for a 377 and your gearbox. The 54 x 27 would cause a h
ealthy 377 to over rev as that is the prop that worked on a 30hp Cuyuna and a
2 to 1 reduction on Pterodactyl Ascenders. A much slower plane than a Firef
ly.
Skid Rowe
On May 13, 2013, at 2:49 PM, chris davis <capedavis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Kolbers , Old timers? What prop would anyone choose for a Firefly with a 3
77 b-box 2.58 to 1 I have choices when buying I can take any one of these 2 b
lade props ---54X27----58X28----60X28 I am leaning towards the 60X28 thinkin
g if its too much i could take some length out? Thanks in advance I know i
ts old but so am I, lol, some of you guys must have had a 377 ? Chris
>
> Chris Davis
> KXP 503 492 hrs
> Glider Pilot
> Disabled from crash building Firefly
>
>
==========================
=========
==========================
=========
==========================
=========
==========================
=========
>
Message 8
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
By, going by...... Lol
Please do not archive
Skid Rowe
On May 13, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Dennis Rowe <rowedenny@windstream.net> wrote:
> Chris,
> Going buy my experience with 30hp Cuyuna engines and 2 to 1 belt drives, t
he 60 x 28 sounds close for a 377 and your gearbox. The 54 x 27 would cause a
healthy 377 to over rev as that is the prop that worked on a 30hp Cuyuna an
d a 2 to 1 reduction on Pterodactyl Ascenders. A much slower plane than a Fi
refly.
>
> Skid Rowe
>
>
> On May 13, 2013, at 2:49 PM, chris davis <capedavis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Kolbers , Old timers? What prop would anyone choose for a Firefly with a 3
77 b-box 2.58 to 1 I have choices when buying I can take any one of these 2 b
lade props ---54X27----58X28----60X28 I am leaning towards the 60X28 thinkin
g if its too much i could take some length out? Thanks in advance I know i
ts old but so am I, lol, some of you guys must have had a 377 ? Chris
>>
>> Chris Davis
>> KXP 503 492 hrs
>> Glider Pilot
>> Disabled from crash building Firefly
>>
>>
>> =========================
=========
>> ://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
>> =========================
=========
>> cs.com
>> =========================
=========
>> matronics.com/contribution
>> =========================
=========
>>
>
>
==========================
=========
==========================
=========
==========================
=========
==========================
=========
>
Message 9
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
I just ordered a castle nut for my tail wire bolt so I would have a couple more
threads instead of the wing nut that has only 2 or 3 threads. I figure I can
gently tighten the castle nut with a socket then put the safety ring in the bolt
hole. My fingers get sore trying to turn my wing nut enough for decent cable
tension. Having a hard time finding a couple spare safety rings in case I loose
my one. I put a call into Travis @ Kolb hoping he has a couple to send along
with my new tail wheel replacement I just ordered. My tail wheel bearing seems
to be binding some as the wheel does not rotate freely, it won't spin without
helping it along.
--------
"Life should be lived as a bold adventure, I refuse to tiptoe through life
just to arrive safely at death"
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400557#400557
Message 10
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Kolbers , Old timers? What prop would anyone choose for a Firefly with a 377
b-box 2.58 to 1 I have choices when buying I can take any one of these 2
blade props ---54X27----58X28----60X28 I am leaning towards the 60X28
thinking if its too much i could take some length out? Thanks in advance I
know its old but so am I, lol, some of you guys must have had a 377 ? Chris
Chris Davis
Chris D/Kolbers:
A Jim Culver 60X30 was perfect with a 447 on my original Firestar.
A Jim Culver 50X30 was perfect with my Cuyuna ULII02 on my Ultrastar. Can't
remember what the ratio was for Homer's belt drive.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
Message 11
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | 2013 Kolb Homecoming |
Hi Folks:
Time to start getting ready to hit the road for London, KY, and this year's
Homecoming.
Arrival is Friday, the flyin Saturday, and departure Sunday.
Let's all pray for good weather and a safe flight and arrival for all those
that are lucky enough to get to attend the event.
See you all this Friday.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
Message 12
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
At 03:10 PM 5/13/2013, Dennis Rowe wrote:
>Chris,
>Going buy my experience with 30hp Cuyuna engines and 2 to 1 belt drives,
>the 60 x 28 sounds close for a 377 and your gearbox. The 54 x 27 would
>cause a healthy 377 to over rev as that is the prop that worked on a 30hp
>Cuyuna and a 2 to 1 reduction on Pterodactyl Ascenders. A much slower
>plane than a Firefly.
The Cuyuna and the 377 are both rated at 35HP at 6500 rpm, so they should
be able to use the same prop with the same redrive. The Cuyuna on the
Ultrastar uses a 50x30 prop with a 2:1 ratio, though it's only the limited
clearance that mandated such a small prop.
Dana
--
Wernher von Braun settled for a V-2 instead of a V-8.
Message 13
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
I have a 5 rib older Firestar with a 377 Rotax. Sunday, It lost power so I put
it down in an open field that had cotton grown on it last year. No big deal except
in my wallet. I've been flying ultralights since the early eighties. Was
a BFI. I'm sure this has been asked before. I have a zero time 503 that I can
install if the 377 cannot be repaired at a reasonable price. I was told that it
was not recommended but that some guys have done the swap. Thanks for any opinions,
advice.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400572#400572
Message 14
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Dana Thanks for your opinion, it is very close to my thoughts;-=0AChris D
avis=0A=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building Fir
efly=0A=0A=0A>________________________________=0A>From: Dana Hague <d-m-hag
ue@comcast.net>=0A>To: kolb-list@matronics.com =0A>Sent: Monday, May 13, 20
13 5:35 PM=0A>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 377 prop=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>At 03:10 PM 5
/13/2013, Dennis Rowe wrote:=0A>=0A>Chris,=0A>>Going buy my experience with
30hp Cuyuna engines and 2 to 1 belt drives, the 60 x 28 sounds close for a
377 and your gearbox. The 54 x 27 would cause a healthy 377 to over rev as
that is the prop that worked on a 30hp Cuyuna and a 2 to 1 reduction on Pt
erodactyl Ascenders. A much slower plane than a Firefly.=0A>The Cuyuna and
the 377 are both rated at 35HP at 6500 rpm, so they should be able to use t
he same prop with the same redrive.- The Cuyuna on the Ultrastar uses a 5
0x30 prop with a 2:1 ratio, though it's only the limited clearance that man
dated such a small prop.=0A>=0A>Dana=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>--=0A>Wernher von Braun
== =0A>=0A>
Message 15
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Skid , Thanks for your input ,I think I will take the 60X28 and see what it
turns then go for a new prop depending on the results! Chris=0A-=0A=0ACh
ris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building F
irefly=0A=0A=0A>________________________________=0A>From: Dennis Rowe <rowe
denny@windstream.net>=0A>To: "kolb-list@matronics.com" <kolb-list@matronics
.com> =0A>Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 3:18 PM=0A>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 377
prop=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>By, going by...... Lol-=0A>Please do not archive=0A>
=0A>Skid Rowe =0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>On May 13, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Dennis Rowe <row
edenny@windstream.net> wrote:=0A>=0A>=0A>Chris,=0A>>Going buy my experience
with 30hp Cuyuna engines and 2 to 1 belt drives, the 60 x 28 sounds close
for a 377 and your gearbox. The 54 x 27 would cause a healthy 377 to over r
ev as that is the prop that worked on a 30hp Cuyuna and a 2 to 1 reduction
on Pterodactyl Ascenders. A much slower plane than a Firefly.=0A>>=0A>>Skid
Rowe =0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>On May 13, 2013, at 2:49 PM, chris davis <capedav
is@yahoo.com> wrote:=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Kolbers , Old timers? What prop would an
yone choose for a Firefly with a 377 b-box 2.58 to 1 I have choices when bu
ying I can take any one of these 2 blade props ---54X27----58X28----60X28 I
am leaning towards the 60X28 thinking if its too much i could take some le
ngth out? Thanks -in advance -I know its old but so am I, lol, some of
you guys must have had a 377 ? Chris=0A>>>=0A>>>Chris Davis=0A>>>KXP 503 49
2 hrs=0A>>>Glider Pilot=0A>>>Disabled from crash building Firefly=0A>>>=
=========://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List =
========= cs.com =============
====================== matronic
s.com/contribution ==================
================= =0A>>======
====://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List=====
=====cs.com================
===================matronics.com/c
ontribution====================
==== =0A>=0A>
Message 16
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: 5 rib firestar |
The original 5-rib Firestar was designed to meet Part 103, but it never did even
with a Rotax 377 engine. Many of them added the 447 engine including the one
I have. This put it far beyond the ultralight limits and thus became subject
to FAA registration. A Rotax 503 would not only add more weight but also more
power than the design can handle. I was told this by Dennis Souder at the old
Kolb Company. It would not be advisable to do this because the wings and airframe
cannot handle that kind of power. I know there are some guys out there that
disagree with me, but I think the designer knows more about the original 5-rib
wing than they do. On the other hand, a 7-rib wing is stronger with a beefed
up airframe and it can handle a 503 engine.
Ralph B
--------
Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000+ hours
26 years flying it
Kolbra 912ULS
N20386
200 hours
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400581#400581
Message 17
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
I think McMasters-Carr has every size circlip you can imagine. Good service too.
do not archive
Russ K
On May 13, 2013, at 4:38 PM, Arizona Flyer wrote:
>
> I just ordered a castle nut for my tail wire bolt so I would have a couple more
threads instead of the wing nut that has only 2 or 3 threads. I figure I can
gently tighten the castle nut with a socket then put the safety ring in the
bolt hole. My fingers get sore trying to turn my wing nut enough for decent cable
tension. Having a hard time finding a couple spare safety rings in case I
loose my one. I put a call into Travis @ Kolb hoping he has a couple to send along
with my new tail wheel replacement I just ordered. My tail wheel bearing
seems to be binding some as the wheel does not rotate freely, it won't spin without
helping it along.
>
> --------
> "Life should be lived as a bold adventure, I refuse to tiptoe through life
just to arrive safely at death"
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400557#400557
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Message 18
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: Checking the river |
Videos are great, I am always looking forward to their arrival on the list. If
I didn't know better, I would say they were taken in New Mexico. Which I've been
told by Pendleton residents that the weather there in Eastern Oregon is a
lot like N.M.
Do not archive.
Brad
Message 19
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: 5 rib firestar |
Gyrodude ,Ill tell you what Dennis told me twenty years ago if you are goin
g to use the 503 build a KXP ,I did ,but if you cant fix the377 send it to
me I am just buying one-for my Firefly-I might be able to use it for pa
rts. Good luck Chris=0A-=0A-=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider P
ilot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly=0A=0A=0A>______________________
__________=0A>From: gyrodude <gsafrit1@carolina.rr.com>=0A>To: kolb-list@ma
tronics.com =0A>Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 7:02 PM=0A>Subject: Kolb-List: 5
it1@carolina.rr.com>=0A>=0A>I have a 5 rib older Firestar with a 377 Rotax.
Sunday, It lost power so I put it down in an open field that had cotton gr
own on it last year. No big deal except in my wallet. I've been flying ultr
alights since the early eighties. Was a BFI. I'm sure this has been asked b
efore. I have a zero time 503 that I can install if the 377 cannot be repai
red at a reasonable price. I was told that it was not recommended but that
some guys have done the swap. Thanks for any opinions, advice.=0A>=0A>=0A>
=0A>=0A>Read this topic online here:=0A>=0A>http://forums.matronics.com/vie
==============0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>
Message 20
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: 2013 Kolb Homecoming |
Are you saying that the Home Coming is this Friday, Sat, and Sunday? They would
have a better turn out if they notified everyone. I will try to be there...
--------
Rick Lewis
(VW Watercooled Engine)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400589#400589
Message 21
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: Stripped threads on tail nut. |
You can also cut them out of a spring. One spring of the right size can
make a lot of circlips.
Dana
At 08:21 PM 5/13/2013, kinne russ wrote:
>
>I think McMasters-Carr has every size circlip you can imagine. Good
>service too.
>do not archive
>Russ K
>
>On May 13, 2013, at 4:38 PM, Arizona Flyer wrote:
>
> >
> > I just ordered a castle nut for my tail wire bolt so I would have a
> couple more threads instead of the wing nut that has only 2 or 3 threads.
> I figure I can gently tighten the castle nut with a socket then put the
> safety ring in the bolt hole. My fingers get sore trying to turn my wing
> nut enough for decent cable tension. Having a hard time finding a couple
> spare safety rings in case I loose my one. I put a call into Travis @
> Kolb hoping he has a couple to send along with my new tail wheel
> replacement I just ordered. My tail wheel bearing seems to be binding
> some as the wheel does not rotate freely, it won't spin without helping
> it along.
> >
> > --------
> > "Life should be lived as a bold adventure, I refuse to tiptoe
> through life just to arrive safely at death"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400557#400557
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
--
Error: Keyboard not attached. Press F1 to continue.
Message 22
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: 2013 Kolb Homecoming |
Are you saying that the Home Coming is this Friday, Sat, and Sunday? They
would have a better turn out if they notified everyone. I will try to be
there...
--------
Rick Lewis
Rick L/Kolbers:
No, we'd have a better turn out if folks on the Kolb List paid attention.
I count 10 posts since the middle of April that discussed the 2013 Kolb
Homecoming.
Hope you can make it.
Can't please everyone. ;-)
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
Message 23
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: 2013 Kolb Homecoming |
and......by the way, the 2013 Kolb Homecoming is this Fri thru Sun, 17-19
May 2013.
No offense, Rick. Just poking a little fun at'cha.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 7:53 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: 2013 Kolb Homecoming
Are you saying that the Home Coming is this Friday, Sat, and Sunday? They
would have a better turn out if they notified everyone. I will try to be
there...
--------
Rick Lewis
Rick L/Kolbers:
No, we'd have a better turn out if folks on the Kolb List paid attention.
I count 10 posts since the middle of April that discussed the 2013 Kolb
Homecoming.
Hope you can make it.
Can't please everyone. ;-)
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
Message 24
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: 2013 Kolb Homecoming |
Well I see one post thats labeled Home Coming and it doesn't say anything about
when. I figure it must be hidden somewhere else in another post. I'll start
watching a little closer next time.
--------
Rick Lewis
(VW Watercooled Engine)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400596#400596
Message 25
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: 2013 Kolb Homecoming |
Weather is looking doable, don't know if I'll be leaving Thursday late afternoon
and overnighting in Ashland Ky or thereabouts. Or heading out early Friday and
arriving in the afternoon.
Dennis Skid Rowe
Mk3 2Si 690L 70
Leechburg PA
On May 13, 2013, at 5:33 PM, "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Folks:
>
> Time to start getting ready to hit the road for London, KY, and this year's
> Homecoming.
>
> Arrival is Friday, the flyin Saturday, and departure Sunday.
>
> Let's all pray for good weather and a safe flight and arrival for all those
> that are lucky enough to get to attend the event.
>
> See you all this Friday.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
>
>
>
Message 26
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | 2013 Kolb Homecoming |
Weather is looking doable, don't know if I'll be leaving Thursday late
afternoon and overnighting in Ashland Ky or thereabouts. Or heading out
early Friday and arriving in the afternoon.
Dennis Skid Rowe
Have a great and safe flight. Looking forward to seeing you at the
Homecoming, as well as everyone else.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
Message 27
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
I ran a 60x26 on a 277 and I needed more pitch. You wouldn't want anything flatter
than 60x28 on a 377. In fact, that might not be enough. I run a Warp Drive
on my 377, so I couldn't tell you what pitch it runs at, but I know it has a
lot more power than the 277 on my other airplane.
--------
There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of
conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact.
Mark Twain
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400600#400600
Message 28
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: 5 rib firestar |
I bought a 5 rib back in 2003 and it had a 503, the guy said to use the xtra power
for takeoff and climbing only and as long as you don't go over your VNE your
good. I flew the stock wings for four years then I restored the plane and
made a custom modified cage to handle the 503 and modified the wings. you can
visit my website to see the mods, is this the thing to do I don't know? but I
felt comfortable then and even more since the mods.
www.brianskolbfirestar.comlu.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400601#400601
Message 29
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Chris/All
FYI
I built an original (1985 model) FireStar with the (5) rib wing. It is
very similar to the Firefly but has a wider wing span. The kit came with a
377 Rotax with the 2.58 gear box. The propeller provided was a wood
Tennessee 66" X 28". It performed well.
I have since installed a Rotax 447 with a 2.58 gear box and I use a 66" X
32" wood TN prop and it also performs well.
Bill Varnes
Audubon, NJ
85 Kolb FireStar
In a message dated 5/13/2013 2:50:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
capedavis@yahoo.com writes:
Old timers? What prop would anyone choose for a Firefly with a 377 B-box
2.58
Other Matronics Email List Services
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
|