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1. 05:11 AM - Re: Sprot aviation mag..... (Gary Aman)
2. 05:41 AM - Re: Sprot aviation mag..... (ddoi)
3. 07:06 AM - Know your Kolb (Dennis Thate)
4. 08:42 AM - Re: Know your Kolb (Ralph B)
5. 09:11 AM - Re: Re: Know your Kolb (John Hauck)
6. 09:26 AM - Re: Re: Know your Kolb (David Kulp)
7. 10:24 AM - Re: Sprot aviation mag..... (Charlie England)
8. 01:53 PM - Re: Sprot aviation mag..... (The Kuffels)
9. 02:16 PM - Re: Sprot aviation mag..... (Gary Aman)
10. 03:36 PM - Prop suggestion (pipercolt)
11. 03:42 PM - prop (pipercolt)
12. 05:36 PM - Re: prop (Dennis Rowe)
13. 06:38 PM - Re: prop (pipercolt)
14. 06:48 PM - Re: Re: prop (Dennis Rowe)
15. 09:01 PM - Re: Prop suggestion (Ellery Batchelder Jr)
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Subject: | Re: Sprot aviation mag..... |
Tom,
Seems as though they go through cycles.They try to get back to their roots,
but it only lasts a few issues and it's back to the high dollar stuff.Do t
hey not get information from our segment of aviation or do they not care?Ou
r group here in Ohio has completed 4 new aircraft since 2004,but I don't th
ink anyone of them has sent pictures or articles to EAA about their project
s.It might be our problem.Thom R. used to write for them,he might share som
e insight.
G.Aman.mostly in agreement.
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From: The Kuffels <kuffel@cyberport.net>
Sent: Wed, Jun 5, 2013 6:22 pm
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sprot aviation mag.....
They are not an organization but Kitplanes is almost exclusively focused on
Experimental Amateur Built. They deserve our support. But my view is bia
sed as they publish my electronic project articles.
Tom Kuffel
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Subject: | Re: Sprot aviation mag..... |
Have you heard of the Sport Aviation Association (SAA) yet?:
Their site:
http://www.sportaviationassociation.org/index.html
>From their About page:
"The Sport Aviation Association is an organization founded by Paul H. Poberezny
to help maintain what we know as grass roots aviation. Before you read further,
it is important that you know and understand that we are NOT in competition
with EAA. We want to complement EAA's efforts and help retain the heritage
of the amateur aircraft builder. Our mission is not political - it is simply
to encourage the fun, fellowship, and camaraderie that is so special and unique
to aviation."
Ed Fisher is president. Membership is by donation and they send out a quarterly
publication (PDF) with a password. It has a strong focus on how to and homebuilding.
To me, it's like the original/older Sport Aviation magazines I've read
from EAA's archives.
Dai
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Subject: Wing Loading
I post this for the many new pilots learning to fly Kolbs for the first time.
While the airplane with the highly loaded wing can safely operate in very windy
and turbulent conditions if the pilot is trained and skilled, the lightly loaded
wing simply reaches a limit where the best pilot cant safely fly it.The LSA
a lightly loaded wing will bounce around more and be harder to control and
can be ground looped easily and go off the side of the runway frequently on
a windy day .
Learning to recognize our limits as pilots is crucial, but when it comes to an
airplane with a very low wing loading, we must understand that the airplane has
its own gust and turbulence limitations that cannot be ignored. If you are moving
down to an LSA or other airplane you certainly need specific training to
accommodate the differences in performance and flying qualities. But you also
need training to understand that wind gusts, crosswinds, and turbulence that
other popular production singles can handle are beyond the limits of an airplane
with a very lightly loaded wing.
"A man's got to know his limitations"
Harry Callahan (Clint Eastwood)
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
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Subject: | Re: Know your Kolb |
Knowing any aircraft comes with experience in type. Transitioning to the Kolbra
from a Firestar wasn't too hard, but I would say for the average pilot transitioning
from a big airplane to a Firestar would be tougher due the high drag and
light wing loading. There have been many accidents attributed to big plane
pilots flying ultralights and Light Sport after flying the big ones. The classic
example is flaring too early on landing and stalling the airplane. It comes
down hard and bends the gear. How many times have we heard about that one? When
I carry a pilot who has never flown in the Kolbra and he wants to land it,
I warn him about flaring too early and am ready to push that stick forward as
we get closer to landing. They simply aren't used to it and old habits are embedded
in them.
Ralph B
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000+ hours
26 years flying it
Kolbra 912ULS
N20386
200 hours
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Subject: | Re: Know your Kolb |
When I carry a pilot who has never flown in the Kolbra and he wants to
land it, I warn him about flaring too early and am ready to push that stick
forward as we get closer to landing. They simply aren't used to it and old
habits are embedded in them.
Ralph B
Ralph B/Kolbers:
Seems pretty simple to me, but as many landings as I have done in Kolbs over
the years, I still can get too slow and drop it in.
I think what it boils down to is keeping the air speed above stall speed
until on the ground, or a few inches above the ground.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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Subject: | Re: Know your Kolb |
Or, as Homer so eloquently stated it in the instruction manual, to
keep your eye on your airspeed or "...the ground will come up to smite
thee."
Dave Kulp
Bethlehem, PA
FireFly 11DMK
On 6/6/2013 12:10 PM, John Hauck wrote:
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> When I carry a pilot who has never flown in the Kolbra and he wants to
> land it, I warn him about flaring too early and am ready to push that stick
> forward as we get closer to landing. They simply aren't used to it and old
> habits are embedded in them.
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> Ralph B
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> Ralph B/Kolbers:
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> Seems pretty simple to me, but as many landings as I have done in Kolbs over
> the years, I still can get too slow and drop it in.
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> I think what it boils down to is keeping the air speed above stall speed
> until on the ground, or a few inches above the ground.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
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Subject: | Re: Sprot aviation mag..... |
On 06/05/2013 03:16 PM, Rick Lewis wrote:
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> Does any anyone know of a other organization that is more oriented toward the
home built people than EAA. I just received another Sport Aviation magazine,
and after flipping thorough it I through it in the trash. I really don't care
what piper and such are doing. I want to know about the home builders and what
there doing and there progress. I want to see builder tips, good and bad.
I have said in the pass that I would not resubscribe to EAA and after this subscription
runs out, I'm done....
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> Rick Lewis
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> (VW Watercooled Engine)
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I wholeheartedly agree about the magazine content. The focus has been
wrong for many years, but it's not too surprising. For an analogy, think
about typical high-end car magazines. Only a tiny fraction of the
subscribers will ever own a car that's covered in the magazine; almost
all are only dreamers and very few have any hope of actually owning
$400,000 car. Same applies to current SA readers; the market becomes so
much larger when you include the spam can drivers & those who don't even
fly. I've only been to OSH once in about a decade (and then only because
a friend basically begged me to go) because OSH is even worse than the
magazine. You can't find the airplanes among all the steak knives &
folding ladders. However....
They do a pretty good job of lobbying the Gub'mint. And some of them
seem to have re-discovered the old Experimenter spirit in the how-to
videos they are now producing. So, I've decided that 'Airventure' will
see no more of my money, but I will continue my membership to support
their lobbying efforts and the tiny fraction that still supports us.
Maybe we should all just campaign for a 2 tiered membership, where we
can pay 1/2 price & they can keep the new incarnation of Flying Magazine.
Charlie
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Subject: | Re: Sprot aviation mag..... |
Gary,
<< Seems as though they go through cycles...don't think anyone of them
has sent pictures or articles to EAA >>
Very long cycles indeed. I didn't even pitch my project articles to EAA
because it seemed they hadn't had a real how-to since the Roncz series
on airplane design about 13 years ago.
Another question with them is I can't find an Author's Guide anywhere.
This leaves the impression they only pay for articles from their
in-house "Contributing Writers". The rest of us are supposed to
volunteer a la Oshkosh?
Tom Kuffel
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Subject: | Re: Sprot aviation mag..... |
Tom,
You probably saw that post about the SSA. At our last NCLF meeting last fal
l we had the Wright Brothers as guest speakers,two NASA engineers who show
up in costume and talk and answer questions,show films,all as if they were
the real Wil and Orv.They are OUTSTANDING. But the guy from SAA was there a
s well,only by happen stance,pitching his organization.I think we could hav
e given him a little more attention but he was really upstaged by the Wrigh
ts.This may be a better fit for our kind of flying.
G.Aman
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From: The Kuffels <kuffel@cyberport.net>
Sent: Thu, Jun 6, 2013 4:53 pm
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sprot aviation mag.....
Gary,
<< Seems as though they go through cycles...don't think anyone of them has
sent pictures or articles to EAA >>
Very long cycles indeed. I didn't even pitch my project articles to EAA be
cause it seemed they hadn't had a real how-to since the Roncz series on air
plane design about 13 years ago.
Another question with them is I can't find an Author's Guide anywhere. Thi
s leaves the impression they only pay for articles from their in-house "Con
tributing Writers". The rest of us are supposed to volunteer a la Oshkosh?
Tom Kuffel
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Hi Folks
I am putting a Rotax 582 on my Kolb Mk 111 and I would like some input from folks
on this forum who have flown with this combination. I am new to the Light Sport
world.
Thanks
Bob
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Hi Again
I forgot to ask what prop you folks would recommend for the 582 on the Mk 111
Thanks
Bob
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If you have a type C or E gearbox, I would recommend the taper tip Warp Drive three
blade. 68 to 72 inch dia, 3.47 to 1 ratio.
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
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Hi Skid
I have the "B" gearbox.
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Maybe go two blade than.
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
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Subject: | Re: Prop suggestion |
I would recomend anything but a warp that caused me to terminate my flight
and airplane in the woods
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
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From: bob.pipercolt@yahoo.com
Sent: Thu, Jun 6, 2013 2:36 pm
Subject: Kolb-List: Prop suggestion
Hi Folks
I am putting a Rotax 582 on my Kolb Mk 111 and I would like some input from
folks on this forum who have flown with this combination. I am new to the L
ight
Sport world.
Thanks
Bob
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